"Trump ready for US shutdown to last 'for years'"

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It is not a "fabricated narrative" that you think that because we reject the Great Wall of Trump we "don't care" about illegal entry, drugs or child trafficking.

I think it is fair to say the MSM sheds no light at all on the tens of thousands of pedofiles, human traffickers, and real world slavers Trump has arrested.
 
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I would also argue that there's not a lot of wisdom or virtue to be found in his message or behaviors, either - that his primary pursuit is in promoting himself, at the expense of all others if need be, but that's something of a separate issue.
You seem to really be bothered by a non politician, with a personality not caring what people think or say about them.

I am an individual, independent and don’t feel the need to succumb to others expectations of who others think I should be.

I think Trump is the same way. I really don’t think he cares what people think.

And there is a real freedom in that. Having that much confidence and self awareness, to not worry about what anyone else thinks and be true to yourself.

I think people who have that same quality, love that quality in him.

People that want a nice, neat package, wrapped in a perfect box, with gorgeous wrapping paper and a silk bow. Miss the beauty of wrapping a gift in recycled newspaper.
 
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Not sure how that is ‘discipline’? :scratch:

Writing out one's words so they reflect careful, coherent and meaningful thought and argument isn't discipline? I mean, to me it just sounds prudent.
 
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How would you know? You said you dont watch media.

No; he is just given rope, he hangs himself every time he speaks off-script.
How do you define media?

If media is any mass communication avenue, then magazine covers, billboards, newspapers, the internet, Google, YouTube, Facebook can all be media.

Media can’t be escaped.
 
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Writing out one's words so they reflect careful, coherent and meaningful thought and argument isn't discipline? I mean, to me it just sounds prudent.
Oh. You mean Trump taking the time to do that and then mass media never covering it?

Or editing it with sound bites.

Doesn’t sound like a good use of time.

You guys wouldn’t even watch if they really covered the President.
 
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If you think about it though, most of the mainstream media will edit Trump and not even post any message that does not show him as a bumbling idiot.

So to get his talking points across he must take public opportunities to correct things.

If people who disagreed with Trump, like yourself, DEMANDED full, unedited coverage, instead of edited INTENTIONAL SOUNDBITES, you might have a point.

However, you are being spoon-fed like children, a narrative and your blind to it!

So I DO Dismiss your rhetoric.

Get ALL the data. Then form a conclusion.

Educate yourself.

Spare me. You have all of about 40 posts in this subforum prior to Yesterday, none of which were in the last 2 years. I point that out to demonstrate that you don't know me or what I do or do not watch. I'm perfectly capable of identifying how video that's been edited and then finding and watching the unedited coverage - and I do this frequently. In fact, that's one of my soapboxes.

And guess what - it usually doesn't help Trump.

You seem to really be bothered by a non politician, with a personality not caring what people think or say about them.

You seem to not really have a handle on me at all. If you want to hear what a smart, lucid "non-politician" sounds like, listen to this interview with Andrew Yang:
Why Is This Man Running for President? (Ep. 362) - Freakonomics

I think Trump is the same way. I really don’t think he cares what people think.

Oh he cares; he cares a LOT. That's why so much of his persona is wrapped up in his image. That's why he's so hung up on people being loyal to him. But part of his schtick is that he doesn't care; he desperately wants to be seen as capable, but he isn't. He wants to be respected by the in-crowd, but isn't. So, he sort of revels in this kind of low-brow approach, because he's good at it and because it's the only thing he can pull off.

And there is a real freedom in that. Having that much confidence and self awareness, to not worry about what anyone else thinks and be true to yourself.

I think people who have that same quality, love that quality in him.

People that want a nice, neat package, wrapped in a perfect box, with gorgeous wrapping paper and a silk bow. Miss the beauty of wrapping a gift in recycled newspaper.

So what's fake? His low-brow tastes and actions or his uber-luxurious branding? Don't forget, the guy's biggest successes have been in luxury real estate development, where annual membership fees run in the tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. His condo in NYC was modeled after Versailles:

trump2.jpg
 
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Oooh! That'd be me....



From the source. You want to know how many drugs come across the border other than POE? Check the DEA, and FBI. For example. Just pick a topic and look.
DEA releases 2018 National Drug Threat Assessment

Want to understand a bill?... read it. If you have to sit there with a dictionary, do it. You will learn far more doing the legwork yourself.



Cool, thanks.

The link you provided did not address how the drugs get in (legal port of entry vs not). However, that link you provided did link to the DEA “thread assessment” which had this interesting statement about how heroin gets in to the US:
“The majority of the flow is through POVs entering the United States at legal ports of entry, followed by tractor-trailers, where the heroin is co-mingled with legal goods”

And for fentanyl from Mexico:
“Mexican TCOs most commonly smuggle the multi-kilogram loads of fentanyl concealed in POVs before trafficking the drugs through SWB POEs.”

And cocaine:
“Cocaine trafficking organizations use
a wide variety of methods to transport cocaine into and throughout the United States. POVs remain the primary method used to smuggle cocaine across the SWB. Traffickers hide cocaine amongst legitimate cargo of commercial trucks or within secret compartments built within passenger vehicles. Traffickers are also increasingly targeting seaports along the East Coastof the United States as law enforcement efforts have increased along the SWB.”

And meth:
“Traffickers employ various methods
and techniques in the concealment of methamphetamine, such as human couriers, commercial flights, parcel services, and commercial buses. Commonly, traffickers transport small, multi-kilogram shipments of methamphetamine in POVs”
“A novel technique that may become an emerging trend is the use of drones. Though not favored by traffickers due to their noise, short battery life, and limited payload, advances in technology may make this method more feasible. As the technology advances and addresses these shortcomings, drones may prove more attractive to smugglers, which in turn may increase their prevalence as a smuggling technique across the border.”


Marijuana actually does come in between legal ports of entry:
“Unlike other illicit drugs, the majority of marijuana smuggled into the United States occurs between the
ports of entry on both the northern and southern borders.”

https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2018-11/DIR-032-18 2018 NDTA final low resolution.pdf

That was a very helpful link to show that most drugs come in to the US by means that a border wall will have no effect on.
 
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Spare me. You have all of about 40 posts in this subforum prior to Yesterday, none of which were in the last 2 years. I point that out to demonstrate that you don't know me or what I do or do not watch. I'm perfectly capable of identifying how video that's been edited and then finding and watching the unedited coverage - and I do this frequently. In fact, that's one of my soapboxes.

And guess what - it usually doesn't help Trump.



You seem to not really have a handle on me at all. If you want to hear what a smart, lucid "non-politician" sounds like, listen to this interview with Andrew Yang:
Why Is This Man Running for President? (Ep. 362) - Freakonomics



Oh he cares; he cares a LOT. That's why so much of his persona is wrapped up in his image. That's why he's so hung up on people being loyal to him. But part of his schtick is that he doesn't care; he desperately wants to be seen as capable, but he isn't. He wants to be respected by the in-crowd, but isn't. So, he sort of revels in this kind of low-brow approach, because he's good at it and because it's the only thing he can pull off.



So what's fake? His low-brow tastes and actions or his uber-luxurious branding? Don't forget, the guy's biggest successes have been in luxury real estate development, where annual membership fees run in the tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. His condo in NYC was modeled after Versailles:

trump2.jpg
Since you are so rude, I will absolutely spare you. Let’s not talk again.

I’ve been on CF for 5 years and who cares how many times I’ve posted in this subforum?

If your so close minded and want no new opinions, l wish you peace and love in your life and will happily put you on ignore.

Bye. Bye. :oldthumbsup:

May God bless you. Toodles.
 
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Since you are so rude, I will absolutely spare you. Let’s not talk again.

I’ve been on CF for 5 years and who cares how many times I’ve posted in this subforum?

Were it not for your suggest that I'm being spoonfed a narrative and manipulated by dishonest editing, I wouldn't care. But I do care because your incorrect suggestion about me was founded on your not having been around to see the sorts of things I write.

If your so close minded and want no new opinions, l wish you peace and love in your life and will happily put you on ignore.

Gaslighting at it's finest.
 
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That was a very helpful link to show that most drugs come in to the US by means that a border wall will have no effect on.

Your welcome. Maybe you should peruse around a bit and see what all you find.
 
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How do you define media?

If media is any mass communication avenue, then magazine covers, billboards, newspapers, the internet, Google, YouTube, Facebook can all be media.

Media can’t be escaped.

No, I wont define anything. Just pointing out your falsehoods.
 
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What I AM SAYING is that if we look at what God has told us in the Bible, there is precedent for God’s people to protect themselves.
I agree. I just don't think The Wall is the best way to do it.
 
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No, I wont define anything. Just pointing out your falsehoods.
No falsehood. I said I don’t follow politics much.

I follow topics or subjects that I feel strongly about. I follow how “those topics” are being handled as it relates to the political arena, if necessary.

I follow the Bible always. Not perfectly but it’s teachings and theological studies, including some Hebrew and Greek.

Not seeing any statement by me saying I don’t view any media.

Just pointing out your falsehoods.
 
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Ok. So what is the best way?
Increased manning, improved surveillance technology and further barriers where deemed necessary. Mind you, that's just my opinion. I have recently returned home from several years in Las Cruces NM where my wife was at graduate school. I nosed around quite a bit, traveled along the border, talked to Border Patrol Agents and others. I also read about it, examined statistics, etc. That is the basis of my opinion.
 
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