Demons - real or not?

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Sorry, I may have misunderstood you here but, what is a "disembodied evil spirit"?

My view on these entities, that are 100% real, is that there are different categories of entities in this universe.
Other than the Father, Son and Holy Spirit that make up the Godhead.. all thing and beings are created.
Of the beings that were created, there are animals and humans that live in our dimension, here on earth. Bugs, insects, fish.... we all are hatched or born.. live and die and our bodies decay.
Then there are heavenly beings.. We call them Angels but "angels" are just one "class".
There are Cherubim, Seraphim, Principalities, Authorities, and others.
Of these, which all have different ranks, duties and abilities.. there are those that sided with Satan and were thrown out of heave. Actually, this made up one third of the total number of these heavenly beings.
The other two thirds remained faithful and honoring to their creator.. God.

The entry of "demons" is, in my opinion and with good reason and support, is the result of the Genesis 6 events.

Somehow, and with great debate around the exact details, there were "nephilim" created by the mating of "the sons of God" and the "daughters of men".

These were the giants and "men of renown". These were, again IMO, not pure human. It is my view that it was the hybridization of angles and human women.
Fallen angels, under direction of Satan, mated with human women and produced angel/human hybrids.

Due to them, no matter who you believe to be the fathers.. were not able to receive salvation. This topic is a very deep and debated subject.

In the end... "demons" are the souls of these hybrids after their deaths. They only show up in the bible after the flood. They are condemned to roam the earth, and whatever dimension they abide in, without bodies. However, they still posses their appetites for sex, thirst, hunger and other desires that they would have had during their earthly existence.

Jude talks of the angles, that did this nasty deed, in his book as those that "left their first estate" and are chained in hell.

This is what, IMO, demons are and they are real and they desire to posses any body that they are able to by permission and actions of the person.

I believe 100% that they exist and posses people today.

Sometimes it may be very obvious. Other times it may be less so.

If you really want to delve into this subject and how it is affecting the churches and people of the world today... look into the "spirit of Jezebel"


We know that fallen angels can also possess people :


Then Satan Entered Into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.
• Luke 22:3
 
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I believe they were 1/3 of the angels which where fallen with Satan. Angels would be "disembodied good spirits". And as evil spirits cast down to earth they long to manifest in this physical realm their natures. That's why they influence us to act out their nature (fear, anger, bitterness, hatred etc).


I pretty much say the same thing, I think.

I'm of the persuasion that demons were way before Gen 6. If Satan was the serpent the 1/3 were also there too, but just not in the garden. Only in the "field" outside the garden.
I understand your view.. that demons are the fallen angels. However, I have no text or scripture to back up anything to suggest that angles became "disembodied" when they fell. Any scripture that I read suggests that they are still angels.
 
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We know that fallen angels can also possess people :


Then Satan Entered Into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.
• Luke 22:3
Understood. Angels can take many forms.

However, demons, again IMO, cannot take on physical form on their own. They must enter an existing body to do so.
 
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Is this the Christian only section?
I'm not sure how moderated this forum is.
It would be interesting to know how many people on this thread are actually Christians.
Not saying this to be snarky but it would have a massive effect on people's responses.
If someone on this thread says they don't believe in them, it might be that they are an atheist so it wouldn't be an accurate reading for the OP.
I am presuming the OP wants to know what Christians think of demons, rather than atheists or agnostics.

What Christians believe can be pretty varied.
Not all Christians believe in hell, some believe in purgatory. Some believe the bible is the word of God, some think it man made.
Some believe in Universalism.
I've met many, many, many Christians who don't like to think that even Satan is real.

What I'm trying to say is that within Christianity itself there has been a huge falling away from the Truth. Why does God tell us several times in the bible to not play around with the spiritual realm? He warns us off witchcraft and necromancy and the like for this reason. Why do you think he warns us against these things if they are of no effect?
The reason He warns us off (apart from the fact that he only wants us to follow Him) is that these practices are portals for demons (unclean spirits).

We're in serious trouble as Christians if we don't believe that demons exist. I said it before and I'll say it again. Science has become a religion that has replaced God in men's minds and hearts.

The fact that so many deny the existence of demons and the devil, has caused so many "doctrines of demons" to seep into the church. Look how many churches do such things as being "slain in the spirit" and even "drunk in the spirit". Watch these people and tell me if you recognise Jesus in these teachings? Did you know that many churches now teach grave sucking/soaking?
If you don't stick to the Word of God all manner of false doctrines and doctrines of demons flood in.
Their ears itch and every time people turn away from the truth of God they replace it with a lie.
That lie always is the occult, the religion of Satan.

The occult has a ghastly lure to humans and throughout the bible many are lured by other gods and burn strange fire.
It's what happens when you fall off the narrow path. It is a narrow path, not a wide one.

Because today even Christians are unsure about what they believe and materialism has held so much sway for so long.
Think I'm being over the top? Did you know that the Harry Potter books contain real demons? It isn't complete fiction, many of the "characters" are named after real people and real demons. Even the witchcraft performed in the books are examples of real witchcraft.
All those Christians who warned us, who everyone laughed at, they were right.

Did you know that witchcraft is the fastest growing religion in the US? Google it. There are many news articles on this.
A quick YouTube search will tell you that there is such a thing as "Christian witches" - I kid you not.

Did you know that you can get possessed doing Yoga? Yoga awakens the Kundalini spirit and people have opened up their third eye (pineal gland) doing it and some have gone mad. We shouldn't be messing around with this stuff, that's why Christian Yoga is a contradiction in terms.
Yoga is a spiritual practice. Every move in Yoga is a prayer to a separate god. So if Christians only believe in one God, who exactly are these numerous Yoga gods?
They are demons of course.
Did you know that the word Yoga means "to yoke". When you are doing yoga you are "being yoked".
Who or what are you being yoked to?
It's interesting that Jesus talked about "yokes". Jesus said "My yoke is easy". So we are yoked with Jesus.
Now do you see why Christians can't do yoga? They are trying to yoke themselves to Jesus and demons at the same time! Won't work.

I worry for people who say they are Christian but pooh pooh the idea of demons. I'm not judging them but I'm afraid for them as they are very vulnerable. They are simply not prepared for the spiritual battle ahead of us.

I think that all this falling away from the truth and actual belief that "It is written" is a primary cause of the great apostasy that is happening now.
Many Christians are abandoning their faith and getting into new age occultic practices (demon worship) also many Christians are denying Christ and embracing Judaism, right at a time that many Rabbis are becoming Messianic Jews!

What crazy times we are living in. All caused by falling away from scripture, falling away from God and embracing demons and demonic spirituality.

Yesterday I discovered that many "religious" Jews don't actually follow the God of Abraham. They don't bother with the Torah (Old Testament) but instead their spirituality comes from the Talmud, the Zohar and the Kaballah. These are mystical Rabbinical teachings written by men to perform witchcraft! These are all satanic teachings and are the prototypes for Freemasonry and Islam.
Why do you think the "Shriners" wear fez with the star and crescent moon on it? It's all linked. All the same thing. All from Babylon.
That is what is meant by "nothing new under the sun".

Anything that isn't the God of the bible is of Mystery Babylon. Don't be fooled. There is only one God. Everyone else is worshipping false gods=demons.

I'm sorry to lecture you but people need to know the truth. There is only one truth not many truths.

We're in the eleventh hour on earth now. The Jews are on the cusp of building the Third Temple.
As Christians we know what this means. The world stage is being set for the Antichrist and the strong delusion that the bible warns us of.

If you don't believe demons are real this late in the game, I'm not sure how you'll be prepared for the Tribulation which we will all see. Anyone not believing in demons won't be reaching for the full armour of God. It's called being lukewarm in faith and God says he will spue the lukewarm out of his mouth.

If you think I've rattled on, it's because I've devoted years to study all this. It is one of the reasons I am now a Christian. It's because I know that the End Times are around the corner. I think we will be hearing the Shofar within the next decade.
Times running out you see. If you're lukewarm and sitting on the fence, I pray in this message that you become strong in your faith, gain spiritual discernment and realise that we will see demons with our very eyes very soon. The veil is lifting.
What do you think they are trying to do at CERN?

You should watch this video

Geordie Rose is the money man behind the Quantum Computer called D-Wave (Notice that the D-Wave logo not only reads the word "demon" but the actual shape of it is the same as "saturn's cube" and the black cube that Muslim's worship at Mecca
Why do millions gather in Mecca every year?)

He explicitly says that this will be used to summon "entities that won't necessarily be aligned with what we want."
He denies that they will be demons but he says these entities will not be good or evil but will have a H P Lovecraftian "cosmic indifference".
He said that he is summoning a "tsunami that if we're not careful will wipe us all out".

(By the way, I hope no Christians on here believe in aliens. Aliens are again, just demons. Proof of this is that "alien abductions" which is just about demons, all of them stop when the abductee says Jesus' name. It's important you know that aliens are just demons as they may use "aliens" as part of the antichrist deception. The antichrist will appear to "save us" from the "alien" attack that they have been preparing us for in all the hundreds of Hellywood films)

I made another connection to demons when I was watching this (God is showing me a lot of things at the moment and He is showing me how all the dots connect)
In the video I've linked, it shows drawings by HP Lovecraft. He draws entities (demons) as though they are walking trees.

Seeing walking trees? Yesterday I saw a video about The blind man at Bethsaida who Jesus cured.
This miracle was unusual as Jesus cured the man in two stages. At the first stage, his eyes were blurred and he saw "men as trees walking".
So if this miracle was distinct, it wasn't just a metaphor about sight and spiritual eyes. It was showing us that with the first part he was seeing the "spiritual realm" hence the walking trees.

HP Lovecraft also saw walking trees. Interestingly enough both Lovecraft's parents went mad. This is why we shouldn't be playing around with demons. Lovecraft had night terrors after the loss of his father and he abandoned God. He based his characters on his night terrors which were obviously demons who visited him. He made drawings of these night terrors and demon attacks. Some of his drawings were of walking trees!

Whilst I've been writing this, God has downloaded a lot of information to me and I can't write as fast as the information I'm receiving (literally typing this up as I'm making all the connections in my head- will probably made a YouTube video on this)

So yes, you should believe demons exist as quantum computers are currently summoning them to manifest themselves on earth!

That is why we are surrounded by black mirrors on television screens, smart phones and computers. They are scrying mirrors that are used to summon demons. It is also one side of a black cube.

Black cube=saturn's cube=satan's cube
 
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Of course they exist. The question is: what (apart from tempting people to sin) are they doing?
I have no scripture to back it up, but, would they not just be doing anything to assist Satan in his mandate and agenda?
 
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Here is an interesting twist.
We have all heard of "demonic possession". We have all heard of "alien abductions".
Whether you believe in them or not.. this is an interesting twist.
There are people that investigate both phenomenon. Lately, there have been people coming forward in these investigations, who have had "sleep paralysis" or other invasive experiences with "questionable" beings. They report that as soon as they prayed to Jesus, or used His name... the experience ceased. Immediately, the event ended and they were free of the terror.

To me, one who fully believes in demonic activity but totally denies that there are "aliens" from other planets, this makes total sense. The "aliens" are nothing more than Satanic, demonic, activity under the guise of beings from another planet.

Also, as always... the name of Jesus Christ holds power to those that believe in His name.
 
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I understand your view.. that demons are the fallen angels. However, I have no text or scripture to back up anything to suggest that angles became "disembodied" when they fell. Any scripture that I read suggests that they are still angels.

This "disembodied" could be aliens. It is rather ironic that most christians would believe certain miracle videos (whatever it maybe) but can't do the same with UFO sightings. Not saying all of them are real but there are some stories that are said to be factual.

Maybe when the angels fall from heaven and enter our universe, they are now bound to it's laws (Why and how can they defy the laws of the universe if they are not God?).

There has to be an explanation as to why and how certain pagan gods were believed by man. Maybe those hindu, egyptian, etc gods have existed in some form - maybe they were the Nephilim - the offspring of these fallen angels-aliens and man which is why they have a few human like characteristics yet being completely blue, with many eyes or something?
 
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I have been casting demons out of Christians for over 40 years.

I have seen many lives radically changed for the better and all sorts of torments driven out.

Those denying the existence of demons are like blind men arguing against the existence of colour.
 
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He explicitly says that this will be used to summon "entities that won't necessarily be aligned with what we want."
He denies that they will be demons but he says these entities will not be good or evil but will have a H P Lovecraftian "cosmic indifference".
He said that he is summoning a "tsunami that if we're not careful will wipe us all out".

Ah. I watched Geordie's vid. He's pushing for development of true AI, that's what he means. Not summoning actual Lovecraftian entities from CERN.

But I get what he is saying - AIs may get super intelligent, super fast once they reach a certain point and not really care about humans. Also AIs can replicate basically as fast as they want, so you really could find yourself in a tsunami situation if they ever get smart enough to improve themselves.

He wants to go ahead and try to do it anyway and see what happens and he's hiring people to help him ;) Should be fun.
 
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Understood. Angels can take many forms.

However, demons, again IMO, cannot take on physical form on their own. They must enter an existing body to do so.

This is an important distinction.

Demons are disembodied spirits from the abominable relationship between angel and humans. These hybrids were the demi-gods and gods of old: part mortal entity, but a spiritual entity as the angels are spirits. When the demon dies in their mortal vessel, they are forced to wander the earth (realm) without rest.

Demons possess people because they long for a vessel to possess - to "live" in this realm. They are part spirits, so they can entice and interact with us in ways most all of us have never seen. When the Word of God was about to cast Legion out, they asked Him not to send them to hell (yet), but instead send them into swine. The swine ran off of the cliff, but those few seconds of being in a vessel is better than going to their estate of restlessness. Helping a ghost "move on" is to help these demons find an appropriate vessel (namely, "you"). Every entity dies once, then goes to Judgment. Demons cannot transsubstantiate into any form they want.



Angels can transsubstantiate into different forms - like the angels of Sodom did. Those angels had complimentary parts that allowed them to eat, and even rest. In other words, they were human(oid), or persons.


This is all in the Apocrypha and other books determined to be non-useful for the Church. But even more alarming, it is in the canonical text.
 
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I have been casting demons out of Christians for over 40 years.

I have seen many lives radically changed for the better and all sorts of torments driven out.

Those denying the existence of demons are like blind men arguing against the existence of colour.

It is unfortunate; on one hand, I am happy those people have the luxury to ask whether or not these entities exist.

On the other hand, the longer those people go without knowing the enemy in this fashion, the more exaggerated the encounter will be when those entities reveal themselves.

The world has already made this realm a very comfortable place for demonic spirits, and people (often unwittingly) invite these entities into their lives constantly.
 
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With all due respects Geordie Rose is not talking about robots.
They guy is neck deep into the occult.

I mean he's rubbing the occult in your face. He has an occult symbol on his t shirt and on the banner behind him! You can't get more blatant than that!

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His t shirt with his website "Kindred" has the Ouroboros on it!
It is the snake swallowing its own tail. It is (yet again) a symbol of Egypt and Babylon.

Here's Geordie's t shirt

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Here's the Ouroboros
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Ouroboros - Wikipedia

Look at the logo behind him
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Now look at this..
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And no this is not the Star of David but a Egyptian symbol the Jews brought out of Egypt with them and carried on worshipping despite God's warning of false gods. It is called the star of Remphan.
Read more about it here..
Star David Rempham Remphan Remdan Ramadan tent Moloch morning-star

When Geordie Rose talks about summoning "old ones"/ nephilim whilst talking about a famed occultist and whilst wearing an occult t shirt with an occult banner behind him.. If it talks like a duck..

If you're going to work for him, you'd better know about demonology as that's exactly what you're dealing with.

When they tell you to your face what they are doing, believe them. These occultists/ satanists do a thing called "hidden in plain site". It's right under your nose and yet you can't see it.

He is telling you that they are demons but won't use those exact words as it implies a pejorative and it also acknowledges God.

See his crafty use of "agnostic". He has to sell demon wrangling to kids who have been sold atheism and agnosticism whilst mocking you with the truth at the same time.

He'll find out that the first person to be destroyed by demons from his satan's cube will be him!
 
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I have been casting demons out of Christians for over 40 years.

I have seen many lives radically changed for the better and all sorts of torments driven out.

Those denying the existence of demons are like blind men arguing against the existence of colour.

It's not their existence that is the major question, it's what they are. I think these evil spirits could also be assumed to be spirits of angry deceased people. Not everyone who disbelieves in God is because of what they think is lack of evidence but some could be very misotheistic, even after death.

I remember one guy who claims to know a "psychic" (not saying psychics are real either but i'll just play along here) claims that some spirits they've met just refuse to go to heaven because of anger towards God and how their lives were or how their death was.
 
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Have you tried to cast out demons in Jesus name? Mark Karris makes the point that while people are happy to say they believe in them, they do not act as if they believe by actually trying to cast them out.

Depends on whether they've actually encountered any, correctly comprehended the situation, and were prepared to respond appropriately.

But this kind does not come out except by prayer and fasting. --Matthew 17

Most people "ain't ready for that."
 
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I don't believe demon-possession still exists today. We read in Hebrews 2:3-4 that the God used signs and wonders and various miracles to testify to the apostolic ministry, affirming that the message they spoke really came from God. Since it is no longer needed, demon possession has since ceased, as well as other various miracles that they use to perform in the Holy Spirit.

That doesn't make any sense.

If the Holy Spirit ceased His operation, why would demons cooperate in kind?
 
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