If your pastor or church is not teaching you how to walk as an overcomer....

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If your church or your pastor is not instructing you as to the how of holiness... how to walk in victory over the world, the flesh and the devil.... how to see your entire nature changed from sinner to obedient child of God.... how to please God in all things... then you are being shortchanged. Big time.

I know this sounds a bit harsh, but it is not meant to be. It is simply trying to get our attention to a problem in the vast number of churches across all denominations.... yes, yours as well. Ouch, huh? :)

Here is what I see going on. People are led to the Lord, and are sincere in their hunger for the Lord. But as Leonard Ravenhill once stated, we are so anxious to see them get saved that we uank them out of the womb before their time. This we fail to tell them critical details. For instance, being saved is a “transaction”. Between God and us. A covenant. We give Him all of us, and all our little gods, and in exchange we get the pearl of great price. I have heard people say that to tell them that such an approach will put people off. But is this not exactly what Jesus taught us?

Another example. We tell people that God is now ours. And He is! But we fail to tell them that the opposite is true even more so. We are God’s! You see, the word tells us that we are not our own, we are bought with a price and we are to glorify God with our new lives.

But one of the greatest oversights in our take on Christianity is that living pure, peaceful lives, keeping our bodies under is the calling of every believer. Getting saved is not the end of our race, but rather it is the beginning! And we are to run with a single eye, Jesus above all, and to do so with vigilance, for we have an enemy who wants to steal from us before our newly sprouted seed puts out deep roots.

But herein lies the problem. New believers are to be instructed in righteousness.... How to get the upper hand over their fleshly desires. How to bring every thought.... wow..... every thought into subjection to the Lord. They are to be told how to escape the trap of Romans 7 so that they can truly flourish in Romans 8.

What do we give them? Read your Bible. Pray. Go to church. Do good. Don’t do bad. Is it not any wonder why we are languishing, and drifting ever so gradually into worldliness and lukewarmness, and a lot of guilt. And what does God think of this? He says that H is astonished. Did He not plant us wholly a noble vine? How have we turned into a degenerate plant to Him? We may start out on fire and excited, but are warned that this is common for it is our honeymoon period, but marriage is hard work. Sadly, that seems to be a common state of affairs in our marriages as well.

Should not our love and excitement for God grow exponentially as we continue on the path? Yes, it should. Sadly, with great regularity however, it does not. And why? Why do we settle in for Sunday services as the best God can do. Throw in a prayer chain, some sort of helps ministry and think this is Christianity, because after all, no one is perfect. Right?

But you see, when we really read the words God has given us to stand on, His promises, we see something is truly amiss. Consider:

1) He said that He would not allow us to be tempted above our ability to resist. Our response is that we are only human, so that voids that promise. But we always have forgiveness, Yes, we do, but God’s will is that we finally learn how to possess our vessels in sanctification and honor. Forgiveness is wonderful IF we slip, but evidently there is a way to walk with sin under our feet. Hmmmmmm.....

2) God tells us that our shields of faith will quench... WILL.... all.... ALL..... the fiery arrows of the enemy.

Listen, Peter tells us that we are given these amazing promises because it is through our believing them as OUR promises that the change God promises to perform in us will occur. As we first start out, stumbling is normal. But if we have been walking with God for years, and still willfully sinning, leaning on His forgiveness but with no desire to walk as overcomes, giving glory to God, our Christianity has been gutted of its goal, that we bring forth fruit unto God.

How many churches today preach every single service on forgiveness,but never on how to walk pleasing to God, how to overcome fleshly appetites, how to be changed into fruit bearing saints. Here is the danger, and it cannot be overstated. When we sin the same sins over and over, we are told that the real danger is that our hearts get hardened towards God.

Oh, we keep up our words,our core beliefs, but our prayer life becomes dead... hollow... lifeless. So we settle for learning ABOUT God, rather than learning from Him. We end up religious, but not righteous, and this, my friends, is what the vast number of believers have settled for.

Why are pastors letting such things happen to their sheep? They too have lost sight of victory as our birthright and have succumbed to the pressure to become CEO’s. The concept of giving themselves continually to prayer and ministry of the Word so that their sheep thrive and draw other sheep with their light of life... Jesus in their hearts.... filling them... changing* them.... is lost. Holiness is not preached because it is thought impossible anyway.

But I am here to tell any who will listen that there IS a path prepared for us to walk on, where we walk as overcomes, not as the forgiven overcome. This amazing highway does not lead to holiness... it IS the highway of holiness! Praise God, He tells us that on this highway, a man may be a fool and STILL will not err there in. Glory! I qualify! And so do you!

If you find this encouraging, I ask that you keep reading the blog as I add to it. What God has given me to share is truly amazing.... and it works.... HE works!

Blessings to you all.

Gideon
 

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Getting saved is not the end of our race, but rather it is the beginning!

Being saved, to put it simple, is a ticket to enter the race. But you still have to complete the race. Unfortunately, not many of us are aware of this.

What do we give them? Read your Bible. Pray. Go to church. Do good. Don’t do bad. Is it not any wonder why we are languishing, and drifting ever so gradually into worldliness and lukewarmness, and a lot of guilt. And what does God think of this? He says that H is astonished. Did He not plant us wholly a noble vine? How have we turned into a degenerate plant to Him? We may start out on fire and excited, but are warned that this is common for it is our honeymoon period, but marriage is hard work. Sadly, that seems to be a common state of affairs in our marriages as well.

It is because, as you say, they start out on fire and excited, only to find greater disappointment that their "efforts" went in vain. Start with a thoughtful mind, however, will help to a person to think on why he/she did this and that and still did not work, so he/she may find ways to overcome it, instead of drowning in frustration. This is why I am so against many evangelistic rallies these days. They only whip up excitement, but nothing really change at the end.

But you see, when we really read the words God has given us to stand on, His promises, we see something is truly amiss. Consider:

1) He said that He would not allow us to be tempted above our ability to resist. Our response is that we are only human, so that voids that promise. But we always have forgiveness, Yes, we do, but God’s will is that we finally learn how to possess our vessels in sanctification and honor. Forgiveness is wonderful IF we slip, but evidently there is a way to walk with sin under our feet. Hmmmmmm.....

2) God tells us that our shields of faith will quench... WILL.... all.... ALL..... the fiery arrows of the enemy.

Well, we never learn to dream, honestly, like Martin Luther King. If he could achieve his dream (and die for it), why would we not also achieve ours, for we are children of the almighty God? Many Christians these days are helpless and powerless and trapped in their weaknesses. Their dreams have turned into nightmares by their sin.

Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.

I dream that one day, my fellow brothers and sisters (and me) can do all things through God like Paul can, for the power of our God is beyond imagination.

Why are pastors letting such things happen to their sheep? They too have lost sight of victory as our birthright and have succumbed to the pressure to become CEO’s. The concept of giving themselves continually to prayer and ministry of the Word so that their sheep thrive and draw other sheep with their light of life... Jesus in their hearts.... filling them... changing* them.... is lost. Holiness is not preached because it is thought impossible anyway.

I honestly think that the government should impose higher tax rates on churches, because they are richer than most companies.

Well, back to your point. I think it is because they never understand that the ministry of God is not like doing any business, but is done by passing on our godly lives to those who come behind us, and they too, will inherit this ministry. This life started from Jesus, and passed on to Peter and apostles, and to the early church, and to the church nowadays. But, unfortunately, so many things were lost in the process. Now, the relationship between church leaders and laypersons are, well, basically teachers and students like in high school, but not anything like Paul to Timothy or Titus (Paul called them his sons). Discipleship is pretty much non-existent these days.

But I am here to tell any who will listen that there IS a path prepared for us to walk on, where we walk as overcomes, not as the forgiven overcome. This amazing highway does not lead to holiness... it IS the highway of holiness! Praise God, He tells us that on this highway, a man may be a fool and STILL will not err there in. Glory! I qualify! And so do you!

Hmm... What is this highway you are talking about? o_O
 
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Lutheran's don't have much use for "victorious living" stuff. Instead we preach the Gospel, Christ and Him crucified and raised from the dead.

If your church is teaching how to be "victorious" then your church is shortchanging you.

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Lutheran's don't have much use for "victorious living" stuff. Instead we preach the Gospel, Christ and Him crucified and raised from the dead.

If your church is teaching how to be "victorious" then your church is shortchanging you.

-CryptoLutheran
I don’t think you can even comprehend how sad your post made me. Jesus died to set us free indeed, His words, not mine.

“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord, and not do the things I command you?” Has God not told us that His will for us is that He sanctifies us wholly, body soul and spirit, so that we might possess our bodies in holiness and righteousness all the days of our lives?

The truth is, my church did not teach me how to defeat the dark sins that bound me. God Himself did, despite the fact I deserved nothing but death. But that is not important. What IS important is that we awake to who we are in Him because Jesus not only died for us but also lives IN us. I pray you reconsider.

Blessings,

Gideon
 
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I don’t think you can even comprehend how sad your post made me. Jesus died to set us free indeed, His words, not mine.

“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord, and not do the things I command you?” Has God not told us that His will for us is that He sanctifies us wholly, body soul and spirit, so that we might possess our bodies in holiness and righteousness all the days of our lives?

The truth is, my church did not teach me how to defeat the dark sins that bound me. God Himself did, despite the fact I deserved nothing but death. But that is not important. What IS important is that we awake to who we are in Him because Jesus not only died for us but also lives IN us. I pray you reconsider.

Blessings,

Gideon

The problem isn't preaching the Law to curb evil and instruct in righteousness and holiness, the problem is when there is a conflation and confusion of Law and Gospel. The freedom we have in Christ is the freedom He has given us from the destructive power of sin, death, hell, and the devil; for having destroyed these things, having overcome them, He has given us His victory by our union with Him. It is His righteousness imputed to us that makes us just. We are forgiven, we have fellowship with God, we have eternal life by the grace of God, freely, freely ours in Jesus.

The problem with "victorious living" is that it makes false promises. It tells the sick person that they are sick because they lack faith, instead of recognizing that sickness is part of the cross we carry in this present life. It tells sinners that if they don't see certain improvements that they are lacking something in Christ, when Christ is for sinners and there is no promise that we will not struggle with sin in this life. Christ has told us that in this world we will have tribulation, Christ has told us that our following Him is a cross to carry. This life is a cross, this life is not where justice and peace reside; this life is unjust, this world is fallen, broken, and until Kingdom Come it will remain that way. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is not "you can be happy, wealthy, healthy, right now if you just do X, Y, and Z" the Gospel of Jesus Christ is "the kingdom of God is at hand" and "God demonstrates His love in that while we were yet still sinners, Christ died for us".

The good life is not now, but in the Age to Come. Here and now we share in the sufferings of the cross, with our eye set forward to Jesus Christ, the Author and Finisher of our faith, to run the race.

Our victory is Jesus Christ.
Our blessing in this life is the promise of God.

And one day death will be swallowed up in victory, for Christ shall come, and the dead shall rise incorruptible, and God will renew all things, all creation restored, and there shall be world everlasting and life without end.

If you are promising people a false bill of goods by telling them that, right now, they can see glory then you aren't preaching the Gospel. And that is a problem.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be instructed in righteousness, that is--in part--what the preaching of the Law is for. But the main emphasis of the Law, in this life, is the condemnation of sin. So if you preach the Law, as though it were Gospel, then you aren't preaching victory, you are preaching condemnation and death to sinners. And in this there is no hope, only despair. And in doing this you place a stone around the necks of others and cast them into the sea to die in misery.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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