Do you support removing statues and monuments to slave owners?

hislegacy · Jan 9, 2019

pretty simple question.

Do you support removing statues and monuments to slave owners?

morse86 · Jan 9, 2019

Most of these statues were of free masons and those that were part of secret societies.

Leviticus 19:4:
Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I [am] the LORD your God

Psalm 135:15:
The idols of the nations are but silver and gold, The work of man's hands.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 9, 2019

hislegacy said:
pretty simple question.

Do you support removing statues and monuments to slave owners?

Why bother?

Why not remove all statues, if it's free to do ? Monuments too?

Leviticus 19:4:
Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I [am] the LORD your God

Psalm 135:15:
The idols of the nations are but silver and gold, The work of man's hands.

Dave-W · Jan 9, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Why not remove all statues, if it's free to do ? Monuments too?

No one is saying civil statues to military or political historical figures are idols.

I would entirely support replacing statues of Confederate Civil War generals with statues of General Sherman, General Grant, and Abe Lincoln. Mostly Sherman.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 9, 2019

Dave-W said:
No one is saying civil statues to military or political historical figures are idols.

Read just the Scripture verses posted then.

Dave-W · Jan 9, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Read just the Scripture verses posted then.

I did. That is why I said what I did.

They are NOT idols. No one thinks they are “gods.”

morse86 · Jan 9, 2019

Dave-W said:
No one is saying civil statues to military or political historical figures are idols.

Exodus 20:4:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 9, 2019

Dave-W said:
I did. That is why I said what I did.

They are NOT idols. No one thinks they are “gods.”

Until about 1500 years ago, give or take , God's People, or the people who are called by His Name, knew better. Things changed. (away from God; away from truth; and are going faster today ..... )

Dave-W · Jan 9, 2019

morse86 said:
Exodus 20:4:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Context. That is talking about objects of divine worship. Which only goes to God.

If that includes images of humans, then you should not ever have a picture taken or show an avatar on your posts. You should never look at a map or a news paper. Never attend a movie or watch tv.

Fortunately for all of us, those things are NOT what the scripture is talking about.

iluvatar5150 · Jan 9, 2019

hislegacy said:
pretty simple question.

Do you support removing statues and monuments to slave owners?

"pretty simple question"

lolol

I totally can't see where this is going.

morse86 · Jan 9, 2019

Dave-W said:
Context. That is talking about objects of divine worship. Which only goes to God.

If that includes images of humans, then you should not ever have a picture taken or show an avatar on your posts. You should never look at a map or a news paper. Never attend a movie or watch tv.

Fortunately for all of us, those things are NOT what the scripture is talking about.

Statues are a graven image that is being formed and shaped with hands. What use does it have other than for idolatry???

GoldenBoy89 · Jan 9, 2019

Depends.

iluvatar5150 · Jan 9, 2019

This thread reminds me of:

yeshuaslavejeff · Jan 9, 2019

iluvatar5150 said:
This thread reminds me of: Wile E. Coyote bear trap
.....

GOOD - those traps NEVER WORKED!

remember ?

Arcangl86 · Jan 9, 2019

I know this is going to be a reference to people like Washington and Jefferson, so I'll give this answer. Confederate generals are famous primarily because they fought for a failed rebellion in order to preserve the right to own slaves. That's different i think then the founders.

iluvatar5150 · Jan 9, 2019

Arcangl86 said:
I know this is going to be a reference to people like Washington and Jefferson

hislegacy · Jan 9, 2019

What about before continental days. Columbus for example.

Arcangl86 · Jan 9, 2019

hislegacy said:
What about before continental days. Columbus for example.

Columbus was a horrid human being in general. I wouldn't mind statutes to him going bye bye, and I say this as somebody with Italian heritage.

zephcom · Jan 9, 2019

hislegacy said:
What about before continental days. Columbus for example.

There are statues of Columbus??? Who knew.

Anyway, from what I've read outside of traditional American history books, the man was outright evil. Only people who followed in his evil footsteps would welcome a statue of him in their city park.

iluvatar5150 · Jan 9, 2019

zephcom said:
There are statues of Columbus??? Who knew.

Most everybody who's been to NYC?

Columbus Circle - Wikipedia

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