Watchman 2 never responded to the evidence Scripture itself provides refuting the position that πιστεύω literally meaning a full surrender to the Lord . . .
Luke 8:5-13
5 A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it. 6 And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture . . . 9 And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be? 10 And he said . . . 13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. KJV
The inspired text shows clearly that pisteuo CAN accurately describe a tempoary response.
13 οἱ δὲ ἐπὶ τῆς πέτρας οἳ ὅταν ἀκούσωσιν μετὰ χαρᾶς δέχονται τὸν λόγον καὶ οὗτοι ῥίζαν οὐκ ἔχουσιν οἳ πρὸς καιρὸν πιστεύουσιν καὶ ἐν καιρῷ πειρασμοῦ ἀφίστανται
“<1161> They on <1909> the rock <4073> [are they], which <3739>, when <3752> they hear <191> (5661), receive <1209> (5736) the word <3056> with <3326> joy <5479>; and <2532> these <3778> have <2192> (5719) no <3756> root <4491>, which <3739> for <4314> a while <2540> believe <4100> (5719), and <2532> in <1722> time <2540> of temptation <3986> fall away <868> (5736).” (Lu 8:13 AV)
4100 - πιστεύω (pisteuo) pist-yoo’-o
5719 Tense-Voice-Mood: Present-Active-Indicative
Legitimate Bible translators use the proper meaning of the words with proper consideration of their context and the specific word forms used by the author. They don't abuse otherwise legitimate study tools by respected scholars like Dr. Strong and Mr. Vines.
You can't reconcile your definition of πιστεύω with this use of its 3rd Person Plural, Present Active Indicative form in Luke 8:13. Here it is used in reference to a temporary (and apparently superficial) form of believing.
The fact that genuine faith IS permanent and certainly results in the believer's surrender to the Father is biblical. But it is NOT derived from the necessary meaning of pisteuo.
And yes . . . It is YOUR teaching. Teaching for which you will called to account - unless you repent. It is NOT Strong's. It is NOT Vines'. You own it.
Your understanding is based on " believe " and emediatly recieving the Spirit of Christ. That is false.
If you ever accept the definitions of what saving Faith is" pisteuo " , we could talk about the process or journey of such surrendered life. Which doesn't receive the Spirit of Christ at a moment of belief.
Your understanding is built on the mistranslated words believe , believer , and believing, so everything else built on that will be in error.
Luke 8:13 is speaking of the parable of the sower, which is one of those happenings that must happen in the correct order.
Your understanding has a 3 out of the four soils failing with the Spirit of Christ in them. In my understanding , the genuine surrendered life hasn't had the Spirit of Christ sealed into them yet.
1) called out by the Father.
2) mental turning.
3) genuine act of pisteuo, ( surrendered life).
4) Christ acknowledges the surrendered life by moving the surrendered life into the parable of the sower.
5) 3 out of the 4 soils fail. But since they haven't received the Spirit of Christ yet, they can repeat the process " if " the Father continues to draw them .
6) the one good , tested surrendered life ( soil ) moves ahead into the grafting process of the journey.
7) throughout this entire journey, the called out one is continually responding to Christ by an increased , perfected " pisteuo " or surrendered life.
8) Jesus " then " accepts the surrendered life, by sealing in His Spirit.
9) at this point, it's harder to get out of God's will then it is to stay in it.
This is a rough outline of the Salvation process, per the correct understanding of what Faith is and how it's applied. There are many states of being associated with each point that I didn't add.
