"COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE" -- The Considerations

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It's perfectly natural that each person should evaluate their own particular circumstance before deciding whether to, where to, when to, and how to "prep". Some may do so because of past experiences with natural disasters, self sufficiency, reclusiveness, or for something as simple as not being on a reliable power grid.

For example, about dozen years ago a cold snap increased natural gas demand beyond the pipeline capacity, but because our community had a major employer, the natural gas was provided to us and closed the valves on a distant community without a major employer, which created a severe hardship for the elderly, the disabled, and the young, not including frozen pipes for many households. After this fiasco, virtually every house in the neighboring community set up an alternate heating option.

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Hi I like how you keep to your world view and are making good reads on the types of stuff that could go down. My world view is similar to yours only I believe in the rapture and the teaching to occupy until the LORD comes. If I thought it was a post trip scenario I would have been off the grid years ago. I agree that a future scenario is coming that is not good a denarius for a quart of wheat on a global level. I agree we should be prepared. If you were a Christian in Venezuela and saved a years supply of food water and necessities just in case you would likely have run out of all your provisions by now. The Joseph idea works only if you have the 7 good years to lay aside provision for the bad. The main thing is to be spiritually in the right camp. Corrie Tenboom her sister died in the camp and was never forsaken. We dont want to endure but we might get too anyways.
 
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Corrie Tenboom her sister died in the camp and was never forsaken. We dont want to endure but we might get too anyways.
And Corrie ten Boom made known the million or so who died in China,

the pastors/ leaders wept long and hard because they had falsely taught them that
they would not suffer - that they would be 'taken'/raptured....

Corrie showed clearly the absurdity and falseness of the rapture teaching,
and this is still (or was a few days ago) available online/ youtube and other sites.
 
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It's perfectly natural that each person should evaluate their own particular circumstance before deciding whether to, where to, when to, and how to "prep". Some may do so because of past experiences with natural disasters, self sufficiency, reclusiveness, or for something as simple as not being on a reliable power grid.

For example, about dozen years ago a cold snap increased natural gas demand beyond the pipeline capacity, but because our community had a major employer, the natural gas was provided to us and closed the valves on a distant community without a major employer, which created a severe hardship for the elderly, the disabled, and the young, not including frozen pipes for many households. After this fiasco, virtually every house set up an alternate heating option.

Our past experiences often drive us toward our future decisions. But what if we haven't had a particular experience but are given a warning for a future circumstance, or we failed to grasp the consequence of the warning? What then?

Rev. 18:2 ... “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great!
It has become a dwelling place of demons,
a haunt of every foul spirit,
a haunt of every foul and hateful bird;
3 For all nations have drunk the wine of her impure passion,
and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her,
and the merchants of the earth have grown rich with the wealth of her wantonness.”

4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,

“Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues;

It's not much of a stretch to perceive that the major cities of the world will experience a calamity without precedent, and it's not a matter of "IF", but "WHEN". And although we could have a discussion on eschatology as to the "WHEN", this is not the Forum for that discussion, so I will proceed with a different consideration!

Per John's words, it should be fairly obvious that if you live in a major city, near a military base, or major infrastructure such as a commercial port, that you should heed his warning and relocate before the threat makes an appearance. And personally speaking, my house IS in a "High Probability Nuclear Strike Target" (HPNST) community, but I FULLY expect that this "Titanic" house of ours will be turned to dust, so I'm working on a "lifeboat" for my family.

But the issue is that not everyone living in or near a HPNST may have internalized the Biblical warning, and may only be in the "Bug IN" or "Bug OUT" mindset ( -- that is, if you can get out -- ), without having more than a few days of supplies, -- but then what?

John's not warning about a hurricane (as bad as they can be). His depictions appear to CLEARLY denote nuclear warfare, which could result in several months for government services to be restored, and several years for the clean-up.

And so it would seem that the wise steward should consider his circumstance and options, and prepare accordingly, because it's never been an "IF" ...

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Honestly, it could refer to something else entirely. It describes a city about to be destroyed and a warning for God's people to leave that city.

Luk 21:20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near.

Luk 21:21 “Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her.
 
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And Corrie ten Boom made known the million or so who died in China,

the pastors/ leaders wept long and hard because they had falsely taught them that
they would not suffer - that they would be 'taken'/raptured....

Corrie showed clearly the absurdity and falseness of the rapture teaching,
and this is still (or was a few days ago) available online/ youtube and other sites.
Man how far worse times have got since even the last year .
THATS right jeff . They forgot that not only unto us is it given to Believe on Him,
but also to Suffer for His name sake . Major world wide persecution will begin
as soon as this false unity has ran its course . The world will be as one
and come against the true lambs . But I say as did our LORD
REJIOCE and leap for joy when you are hated and persecuted for His name sake .
Whether we live or die we the Lord s . And shall not fear what man can do .
No matter what we suffer , no matter how persecuted , or even killed.
WE GOT ALL HOPE , for our HOPE is in the CHRIST , MESSIAH , JESUS , Yeshua , THE KING .
 
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It's probably wise to have a couple "buckets" of MRE's, or some type of "add hot water and stir" food pouches in case there's some type of emergency which prevents/delays a trip to the grocery store.

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Luke 22:35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one.

Parse it as you wish,
DaDad
No, don't parse it at all. Understand as Yahweh grants understanding, and likewise Read all Scripture by Scripture, in harmony with all Scripture ....

Ecclesiastes 7:16
Be not [morbidly exacting and externally] righteous overmuch, neither strive to make yourself [pretentiously appear] overwise—
why should you [get puffed up and]
destroy yourself [with presumptuous self-sufficiency]?
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"Beloved, our heavenly Father is willing and able to carry our heaviest (and lightest) burdens but before we can experience God's sufficiency, we need to acknowledge our insufficiency to live the Christian life."
1 Peter 5:6-7 Commentary | Precept Austin
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Well then I guess Jesus was incorrect when HE told us:
He did not tell you, nor me, nor anyone we know today.

He told the disciples at the time, and it is falsely called wisdom or knowledge or parsing to try to claim He told you.
 
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when I could have been taking a nap.
That's not what Scripture says,

though it is better than self-sufficiency.

Trust the Father in heaven instead of self - never trust the flesh.

The Father will grant you rest/sleep if you are and remain one of the beloved, as He says in His Word.
 
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How foolish do I feel for thinking I really DID need a "purse", "bag", and "sword".

As God also Says, Written in His Word, He Himself curses anyone who trusts in the flesh.

Not by power, nor by might, but by MY SPIRIT saith the LORD OF HOSTS.

Trust Him.
 
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He did not tell you, nor me, nor anyone we know today.
It seems that being aware of our surroundings is the first step in making decisions. :)
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