THE SABBATH IS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT - WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS IT IS ABOLISHED?

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Not at all the confusions is your side again my friend. It is God's WORD not mine that says that the test to know if someone is from God or not OBEDIENCE to God's commandments not me. So your argument is with God.

1 JOHN 2:3-4
[3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Who do we BELIEVE and FOLLOW God or man?
But you are totally confused. For you told me I was your brother. Yet according to what you believe I do not keep the commandments and do so without repentance, whilst fully understanding what the letter of the commandment states. Therefore you must believe, I your brother am a liar and the truth is not in me.
 
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Take my advice, you will fool no unbiased intelligent person with what you are writing

You will not find God or know God my friend by being intelligent. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

If our eyes are not open we cannot see the Garden of Eden or the paradise of God. Sin closes our eyes and makes us blind but seeking Jesus can open the blind eyes to see and the deaf to hear. Truly, truly, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. I say unto you, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind blows where it wants, and you hear the sound thereof, but cannot tell where it comes, and where it goes: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

Do you know these scriptures brother? What do you think they mean?
 
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But you are totally confused. For you told me I was your brother. Yet according to what you believe I do not keep the commandments and do so without repentance, whilst fully understanding what the letter of the commandment states. Therefore you must believe, I your brother am a liar and the truth is not in me.

There is only confusion if you do not know God or his WORD.

Your simply repeating yourself without addressing the post and scriputres provided to you that disagree with you.

Read the scriptures what do you think ACTS 17:30 and JAMES 4:17 mean? Please read post # 534 linked click me which as already addressed your claims. Your just repeating yourself without reading or responding to what has been written to you or addressing the scriptures that disagree with you. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it. *ROMANS 3:4
 
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Evasion/deflection, you wouldn't need it if you followed the correct path

If you were not evading and deflecting you would respond to the posts and scriptures provided to you that disagree with you. You haven't so this is speaking of yourself. Where as your questions have been answered with God's WORD showing that your statement is simply a false one.
 
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1 JOHN 2:3-4
[3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Who do we BELIEVE and FOLLOW God or man?
Lets repeat this. LGW, according to his beliefs considers those mentioned in the above to be his brothers in Christ. What it comes down to, must be a licence to sin in his view
 
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If you were not evading and deflecting you would respond to the posts and scriptures provided to you that disagree with you. You haven't so this is speaking of yourself. Where as your questions have been answered with God's WORD showing that your statement is simply a false one.
I am afraid I am not going to ignore your glaring inconsistencies of belief, and on that basis move forward. Your inconsistencies show your error of understanding
 
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Lets repeat this. LGW, according to his beliefs considers those mentioned in the above to be his brothers in Christ. What it comes down to, must be a licence to sin in his view

You are confused. Your simply repeating yourself without addressing the post and scriputres provided to you that disagree with you.

Read the scriptures what do you think ACTS 17:30 and JAMES 4:17 mean? Please read post # 534 linked click me which as already addressed your claims. Your just repeating yourself without reading or responding to what has been written to you or addressing the scriptures that disagree with you. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it. *ROMANS 3:4

Ok friend have to go out again nice talking to you. Sorry my friend only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it. JESUS says those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and tradtions of men are not following God *MATTHEW 15:9


Will be back latter. :wave:
 
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I am afraid I am not going to ignore your glaring inconsistencies of belief, and on that basis move forward. Your inconsistencies show your error of understanding

Yep more of your words and none of God's WORD. Sorry friend only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4. Bye for now :wave:
 
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You are confused. Your simply repeating yourself without addressing the post and scriputres provided to you that disagree with you.

Read the scriptures what do you think ACTS 17:30 and JAMES 4:17 mean? Please read post # 534 linked click me which as already addressed your claims. Your just repeating yourself without reading or responding to what has been written to you or addressing the scriptures that disagree with you. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it. *ROMANS 3:4

Ok friend have to go out again nice talking to you. Sorry my friend only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it. JESUS says those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and tradtions of men are not following God *MATTHEW 15:9


Will be back latter. :wave:
Pure deflection. If I may say, your time spent on these kinds of websites does not seem to have helped you gain understanding in your Christian walk does it. I am sure you are not alone in this. I would think your confusion is greater now than before you joined sites such as these
 
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Yep more of your words and none of God's WORD. Sorry friend only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4. Bye for now :wave:
God's word does not have the glaring inconsistencies in them that you have in your mind. That is testimony to your failure to understand God's word.
 
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Happy New Year.
I still do not have a good idea of what the Christian community thinks "imitate" means in 1Col.11. Did Paul mean we should seek to imitate Jesus or do the opposite? The question is: Do we imitate or not? Most often the answer from Christians is to offer verses that they believe we should do the opposite of how Christ walked. It seems to me that Paul and the Apostles all continued seeking to imitate Jesus. I can't find an example when they didn't. Thoughts?
 
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Not if your keeping God's 4th commandment according to God's WORD. Are you keeping God's 4th commandment accorinding to the scriptures *EXODUS 20:8-11?

No I often have to work on Saturday to support my family. My job requires it. In the same way Jesus’ apostles picked from the fields on the Sabbath because they were hungry and Jesus defended them when they were rebuked by the Pharisees. I am not blessed with wealth so I must do what is necessary to acquire the things my family needs.
 
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No I often have to work on Saturday to support my family. My job requires it. In the same way Jesus’ apostles picked from the fields on the Sabbath because they were hungry and Jesus defended them when they were rebuked by the Pharisees. I am not blessed with wealth so I must do what is necessary to acquire the things my family needs.

Brother, if you want to put God first you do not have to worry about these things *MATTHEW 6:24-34. Put your trust in God. If you do, all things needful will be added unto you as you seek and put God first. Try it brother put your trust in God and put God to the test.
 
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Happy New Year.
I still do not have a good idea of what the Christian community thinks "imitate" means in 1Col.11. Did Paul mean we should seek to imitate Jesus or do the opposite? The question is: Do we imitate or not? Most often the answer from Christians is to offer verses that they believe we should do the opposite of how Christ walked. It seems to me that Paul and the Apostles all continued seeking to imitate Jesus. I can't find an example when they didn't. Thoughts?

Happy New Year brother Anderseric, good question. Paul and the Apostle imitated JESUS and we are told in the scriptures that we are to do the same. JESUS kept the 4th commandments SABBATH as well as all the commandments of God. So did the apostles and all the disciples. PAUL kept the Sabbath with both JEWS and GENTILES. Since there is no scriptures in all of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a HOLY day. In my view we are better off following the example of JESUS and the Apostles and BELIEVEING and FOLLOWING the Word of God. How do you see it? Thanks for sharing your thoughts

God bless
 
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Amen. All we can do is have faith and walk in His Ways as best as we can.

It is interesting, over the time that I have been a Christian, it has only been since I have tried to put God first and claiming the promises of MATTHEW 6:24-34 to seek first for the KINGDOM of GOD and his RIGHTEOUSNESS that everything is falling into place for me and my family. This promise is conditional of course of seeking first for the KINGDOM of GOD by BELIEVING and FOLLOWING God's WORD. Again in JOHN 8:31-36 we read IF WE CONTINUE IN HIS WORD we are his DISCIPLES indeed and we shall know the truth and the truth shall make us free. So once again to be a disciple of Christ is conditional on CONTINUING to BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. This is our part. God's salvation in and through us is the work of GOD as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. For me brother I believe this simple understanding of the scriptures and asking JESUS to by our guide and teacher of the scriptures through much prayer is all we need to worry about.

1 JOHN 2:6 He that said he stays in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1 JOHN 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleans us from all sin.

2 JOHN 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.

God bless
 
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Brother, if you want to put God first you do not have to worry about these things *MATTHEW 6:24-34. Put your trust in God. If you do, all things needful will be added unto you as you seek and put God first. Try it brother put your trust in God and put God to the test.

“Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the LORD your God.’ ””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭4:12
 
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“Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the LORD your God.’ ””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭4:12

Maybe not the best choice of words brother please forgive me. I am sure you know what I was talking about don't you? I am not talking about tempting God and asking for proof from him. MATTHEW 6:24-34 is a promise from God to all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. I believe God will fulfill his promise to us if we follow what his WORD wants us to do you? I have seen it in my own life and my families when we have been asked to work on God's SABBATH. God has always opened up the door and provided for us as we seek to BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. This is the promise of MATTHEW 6:24-34 to all those who seek to BELIEVE and FOLLOW him who calls us in love to love another.
 
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But you are totally confused. For you told me I was your brother. Yet according to what you believe I do not keep the commandments and do so without repentance, whilst fully understanding what the letter of the commandment states. Therefore you must believe, I your brother am a liar and the truth is not in me.
Spot on
 
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