Is God a punishing God?

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I do not believe we have to go to church to be a Christian, neither do I believe we have to take the Bible literally to be a Christian

I believe when Jesus said if we love him we will keep his commandments. But thats just me and try not to judge anyone. what it really means to be Christians is the changed heart we receive from the holly spirit, you will not be living in sin anymore

John 14:15
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

Exodus 20:
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
 
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I will punish...
You must admit that an executioner has an entirely different purpose than a drill instructor or a coach.

Even a lifeguard has to sometimes subdue a victim in order to rescue them.
 
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You must admit that an executioner has an entirely different purpose than a drill instructor or a coach.

Even a lifeguard has to sometimes subdue a victim in order to rescue them.

“The Lord knows how to rescue/deliver the godly out of temptation and to reserve the unrighteous unto the day of judgement to be punished…” -2 Peter 2:9-

Punishment=Kolasis

Kolasis=

Correction.

Punishment.

Penalty.

Kolasis Rooted In Kolazo

Kolazo=

  1. To lop or prune, as trees and wings.

  2. To curb, check, restrain.

  3. To chastise. To correct. Punishment .

  4. To cause to be punished.
Correction=

Alteration that improves: An alteration that removes an error.

Punishment meant to improve: Punishment, especially meant to improve or reform the person punished.

Law treatment of offenders: The system of dealing with criminals by improvement, rehabilitation, parole, probation.

Treatment of a specific defect.

The act of offering an improvement to replace a mistake. Something substituted for an error.

A rebuke for making a mistake.

The act of punishing.

Removing of errors: The removing of errors from something or the indicating of errors in something.

The act or process of correcting.

Something that is substituted or proposed for what is wrong or inaccurate.

Rectification/ modification/ adjustment/ amending.

Amendation.

Rectification.

Rectification=

To set right. To correct.

To purify.

To correct by removing errors.

To adjust.

A quantity applied by way of correcting.

The act or process of correcting.

Something that is substituted or proposed for what is wrong or inaccurate.

Amendation.

To correct something or make something right.

The act of rectifying or the fact of being rectified.

To correct by calculation or adjustment.
 
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“The Lord knows how to rescue/deliver the godly out of temptation and to reserve the unrighteous unto the day of judgement to be punished…” -2 Peter 2:9-

Punishment=Kolasis

Kolasis=

Correction.

Punishment.

Penalty.

Kolasis Rooted In Kolazo

Kolazo=

  1. To lop or prune, as trees and wings.

  2. To curb, check, restrain.

  3. To chastise. To correct. Punishment .

  4. To cause to be punished.
Correction=

Alteration that improves: An alteration that removes an error.

Punishment meant to improve: Punishment, especially meant to improve or reform the person punished.

Law treatment of offenders: The system of dealing with criminals by improvement, rehabilitation, parole, probation.

Treatment of a specific defect.

The act of offering an improvement to replace a mistake. Something substituted for an error.

A rebuke for making a mistake.

The act of punishing.

Removing of errors: The removing of errors from something or the indicating of errors in something.

The act or process of correcting.

Something that is substituted or proposed for what is wrong or inaccurate.

Rectification/ modification/ adjustment/ amending.

Amendation.

Rectification.

Rectification=

To set right. To correct.

To purify.

To correct by removing errors.

To adjust.

A quantity applied by way of correcting.

The act or process of correcting.

Something that is substituted or proposed for what is wrong or inaccurate.

Amendation.

To correct something or make something right.

The act of rectifying or the fact of being rectified.

To correct by calculation or adjustment.


Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING The VENGEANCE Of Eternal Fire.

• Jude1:7
 
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Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance Is Mine; I Will Repay, Saith The Lord
• Romans 12:19



And I Will Execute Great Vengeance Upon Them With Furious Rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, When I Shall Lay My Vengeance Upon Them.
Ezekiel 25:17
 
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Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance Is Mine; I Will Repay, Saith The Lord
• Romans 12:19

Dear Contend: The essence of Abba which is...

LOVE>>>SPIRIT>>>LIGHT>>>FIRE>>>PROPITIATION

is the foundation of His wrath and everything else concerning Him!

Definition of ESSENCE

Question=

Do you for a brief moment conceive that the Perfect One, Abba, expects more from His creatures than what He is?

"Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.

Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."
 
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I believe and fully accept the concept of Trinity, but I have yet to find a satisfactory, natural analog for it.
Tht is because in a western mindset there can be none.
 
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That is because in a western mindset there can be none.
So, there is such an analog in the Hebrew mindset? (I thought Trinity was a stumbling block to many unredeemed [Hebrews].)

Also, does "not having a natural analog" disqualify one from embracing [Trinity] in faith? I accept that mathematical "i" exists, though I really cannot quantify that, either.
 
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In my younger days I did some rock climbing, with a partner and a rope. My analogy to life is that Jesus is my partner (lead climber up the rock of life) and He is secure (tied on to the rock of life) because He is God. The rope is the Holy Spirit.
If we slip (fall into sin) He saves us (our fall is arrested by the Holy Spirit - the rope), and if we stay with Jesus we will get to the top of the rock (the end of life). Never on the climb will God (Jesus) ever punish us by letting us fall. We may scrape our knuckles on the rock but that is our fault, we cannot accuse God for being as hard as a rock.
Well that's my worldly analogy for the Holy Trinity.
 
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<N7>In my younger days I did some rock climbing, with a partner and a rope. My analogy to life is that Jesus is my partner (lead climber up the rock of life) and He is secure (tied on to the rock of life) because He is God. The rope is the Holy Spirit.
If we slip (fall into sin) He saves us (our fall is arrested by the Holy Spirit - the rope), and if we stay with Jesus we will get to the top of the rock (the end of life). Never on the climb will God (Jesus) ever punish us by letting us fall. We may scrape our knuckles on the rock but that is our fault, we cannot accuse God for being as hard as a rock.
Well that's my worldly analogy for the Holy Trinity
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Interesting analogy.
Ignatius [A.D. 30-107.] Epistles to the Ephesians. Chap. IX. [Student of John]
Nevertheless, I have heard of some who have passed on from this to you, having false doctrine, whom ye did not suffer to sow among you, but stopped your ears, that ye might not receive those things which were sown by them, as being stones (Comp. 1Pe_2:5) of the temple of the Father, prepared for the building of God the Father, and drawn up on high by the instrument of Jesus Christ, which is the cross, (Comp. Joh_12:32) making use of the Holy Spirit as a rope, while your faith was the means by which you ascended, and your love the way which led up to God. Ye, therefore, as well as all your fellow-travellers, are God-bearers, temple-bearers, Christ-bearers, bearers of holiness, adorned in all respects with the commandments of Jesus Christ, in whom also I exult that I have been thought worthy, by means of this Epistle, to converse and rejoice with you, because with respect to your Christian life23 ye love nothing but God only.
 
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@Der Alter. Many thanks for your response. I was completely unaware that the Holy Spirit had ever been referred to as a rope!
It came to me after I had finished with my rock climbing days, but was getting more committed to trying to understanding the Holy Trinity. My experiences in climbing with just one partner brought me to this analogy.
 
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