End Times Anti-Christ Theory

Douggg said in post #114:

7 years after Gog/Magog in Ezekiel 39:21-29, Jesus Himself is speaking, having returned to earth, having carried out Judgement on them gathered to make war on Him at Armageddon in Ezekiel 39:17-20.

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Note that Ezekiel 39:22 will not be fulfilled until after the future Millennium and the subsequent Gog/Magog event (Revelation 20:7-10). Ezekiel 39:22 means that near the end of the safe time of the future Millennium (Ezekiel 38:11), the mortal Israelites living on the earth will have become complacent and backslidden away from God (Ezekiel 39:26,7). So, after the Millennium (Revelation 20:7-10), as a punishment, God will let them be taken into captivity (Ezekiel 39:23-29) during the Gog/Magog time (Ezekiel 38:11-13). God will then bring judgment against Gog and Magog, and the mortal Israelites will return to being faithful to God (Ezekiel 39:21-29). Compare what Jeremiah 24:7 had said regarding the Jews who would come back from their Babylonian captivity, which occurred in the sixth century BC.

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Also, note that Ezekiel 39:17-20 and Revelation 19:17-21 do not require that they are the same event. For it is common for birds to eat at dead bodies lying on a battlefield after a battle, before the bodies can be removed.

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Also, Ezekiel 39:17 does not (as is sometimes claimed) have to be after Ezekiel 39:4, but can be the same event. For the verses in Ezekiel chapters 38-39 do not have to be chronological. For example, Gog's coming into Israel and his defeat by God in Ezekiel 39:2-4 does not have to happen after his defeat by God in Ezekiel 38:18-22.

jgr said in post #129:

[Re: Revelation 17:10-11]

And?

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The seven heads of Revelation's "beast" in its empire aspect (Revelation 13:1, Revelation 17:3) represent seven empires (Revelation 17:9-10): Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, and (possibly) Islam. The first five had fallen by the time of the apostle John in the first century AD: "five are fallen" (Revelation 17:10, Revelation 1:1b-2). The sixth (Rome) existed at the time of John: "one is" (Revelation 17:10). The seventh (possibly Islam) had not come by the time of John: "the other is not yet come" (Revelation 17:10). The empire of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) will be a different, still-future, eighth head (Revelation 17:11), which will be a revival of one of five empires which had fallen by the time of the apostle John (Revelation 17:8,10-11). It will be a revival of the empire of Babylon. The Antichrist will transform the present-day, rebuilt city of Babylon (in Iraq) into the capital of his world empire, only to see his city of Babylon destroyed at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming (Isaiah 13).

Before the Second Coming, when the world is brought into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) and the Antichrist, during the future Antichrist's literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9), the Antichrist will build their main temple in the city of Babylon. For a temple to "wickedness" will be built in Shinar (Babylonia) (Zechariah 5:8,11; cf. Daniel 1:1-2), and the Antichrist is called "that Wicked" (2 Thessalonians 2:8). Also, the dragon has been the god worshipped in the city of Babylon since ancient times.

The Antichrist may claim to be Nebuchadnezzar returned (via "reincarnation"), and so reinstitute the system which Nebuchadnezzar set up whereby everyone had to worship an image or be killed (Daniel 3, Revelation 13:15). The Antichrist may also claim to be, at the same time, the return of Nimrod (the founder of Babylon: Genesis 10:8-10), and Hammurabi, and Asoka, and other famous rulers of the past. For he may claim that he has had many different "past lives" as various "enlightened" rulers.

Besides building a main temple in Babylon, the Antichrist will also sit (at least one time) in a future, third Jewish temple in Jerusalem, and declare himself God there (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36,31, Matthew 24:15, Revelation 11:1-2). The Antichrist could also sit (at least one time) in other religions' holiest shrines, and declare himself to be God there as well. For example, he could also sit in Islam's Kaaba in Mecca, in the Sikhs' Golden Temple in Amritsar, in Catholicism's St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican, etc.

ewq1938 said:

You have the same bible I do...Read all of Revelation and you will see all of this.

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There's no shame in admitting that you don't know.

Douggg said:

the rider on the white horse who is given a crown, at the beginning of the 70th week.

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Your timeline is flawed if you think the 70th week of Daniel lies in the future...

Daniel Chapter 9: Dr. Kelly Varner

There is no 7 year tribulation period in the Bible.
See the link below by Brother Brian O'Connell.

7 year Tribulation?

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BABerean2 said:

Your timeline is flawed if you think the 70th week of Daniel lies in the future...

Daniel Chapter 9: Dr. Kelly Varner

There is no 7 year tribulation period in the Bible.
See the link below by Brother Brian O'Connell.

7 year Tribulation?

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Put your thoughts on the 70th week according to Day

Like this...

Day 1 - the confirmation of the covenant.
Day 220 - the animal sacrifices started again. (2300 days before Jesus returns).
Day 1185 - the AoD image placed in the temple, the Jews begin to flee.
Day 1260 - the two witnesses are killed.
Day 1263.5 - the two witnesses ascend, leaving this world
Day 2475 - the world sees Jesus before the throne of God. (Day 1185 + 1290 days).
Day 2520 - Jesus descends to earth and executes judgement on them gathered to make war on him.

What starts the 70th week? Day 1

Day 1 ?

Day 2520 ?

ewq1938 said:

That's the weakest response I have ever read. There is much shame in posting that. If you want a re-do, let me know.

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Nor any shame in withdrawing from the conversation.

The evidence, and the absence of evidence, are in.

Daniel 9:26 speaks of a prince.

Messiah is explicitly declared to be a Prince in Daniel 9:25; Isaiah 9:6; Acts 3:15; Acts 5:31; Revelation 1:5.
Messiah is explicitly declared to be a King in John 12:15; 1 Timothy 6:15; Revelation 17:14; Revelation 19:16.

Antichrist is explicitly declared to be a prince nowhere in Scripture.
Antichrist is explicitly declared to be a king nowhere in Scripture.

The evidence, and the absence of evidence, are clear.

Daniel 9:26 speaks of Prince Messiah.
Daniel 9:26 does not speak of antichrist.

ewq1938 said:

No, it has been shown that there are two princes and it is only you that disagrees. The rest recognize that one Prince dies while the other does not and that this person is the person many know by the name of AC and he is a prince/commander and this is shown in many passages and he is also explicitly called a King in Rev 17.

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Chapter & verse quote?

ewq1938 said:

Already has been provided to you in this thread.

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Missed it, please provide link or requote.