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For those who believe in God predestine events, was the Fall one of them?
This may be of help to the topic at hand:
Why was sin permitted?
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God with us
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"... The plan for our redemption was not an afterthought, a plan formulated after the fall of Adam. It was a revelation of "the mystery which hath been kept in silence through times eternal." Romans 16:25, R. V. It was an unfolding of the principles that from eternal ages have been the foundation of God's throne. From the beginning, God and Christ knew of the apostasy of Satan, and of the fall of man through the deceptive power of the apostate. God did not ordain that sin should exist, but He foresaw its existence, and made provision to meet the terrible emergency. So great was His love for the world, that He covenanted to give His only-begotten Son, "that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16. {DA 22.2}
Lucifer had said, "I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; . . . I will be like the Most High." Isaiah 14:13, 14. But Christ, "being in the form of God, counted it not a thing to be grasped to be on an equality with God, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men." Philippians 2:6, 7, R. V., margin. {DA 22.3}
This was a voluntary sacrifice. Jesus might have remained at the Father's side. He might have retained the glory of heaven, and the homage of the angels. But He chose to give back the scepter into [23] the Father's hands, and to step down from the throne of the universe, that He might bring light to the benighted, and life to the perishing. {DA 22.4} ..." - The Desire of Ages (1898), pages 22.2-22.4
Sin was never "ordained", for that is a blasphemous charge against God, though it was foreseen and permitted for a reason (people still cannot seem to understand the difference between omniscience/foreknowledge and omnipotence/permission in the context of God who is love, without freewill/choice there is no love, yet Christ Jesus is the free will offering, God freely gave which takes nothing away from His soverignty).
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