...Example: When did Christ enter the Holiest?
Seventh-day Adventists teach that Jesus entered two times into the Most Holy Place of the heavenly sanctuary--once at His ascension, and once again in 1844 at the beginning of the aypical Day of Atonement.
False. Seventh-day Adventists teach that Jesus Christ upon his ascension entered
"once" into the real Sanctuary of Heaven, the Holy Place. The Sanctuary of Heaven has two rooms (House of the LORD), [1] Holy Place and [2] Most Holy Place. Jesus entered the House. He did not enter into the Master Room until later, but Jesus was in the same House.
IT IS IN THE BIBLE that Christ entered only once:
Heb. 9:12...……..
"But by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us."
Indeed. Into the Sanctuary, through the front door. Which first room is "the Holy place", not the Most Holy Place, which came afterward behind another veil/door.
Heb. 10:12...……..
"But this man {Christ}, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God."
The text is true, and in the context of the Heavenly sanctuary, that Throne that is in the Holy Place is represented by the Table of Shewbread, that sits on the sides of the "north" (Exodus 26:35, etc).
The table of shewbread, is the symbol of the Throne of God in the Holy Place, as it was covered in Gold, had a crown [for Kings] molding [Exodus 25:24-25], and two places for bread, 6 and 6, a place for the Father and Son on the throne, as the Son lives by the word [bread] of the Father, we are to live by the word [bread] of Jesus [John 6:57; Revelation 3:21 KJB], of which the Tree of Light in the Holy place has 6 branches [Exodus 25:32,33,35,37:18,19,21 KJB] out of the central stock, even as it represents the Holy Spirit [Revelation 1:4, 3:1, 4:5, 5:6, 22:17 KJB], and this light [2 Peter 1:19 KJB] coming from Him, is the Spirit of Prophecy [Revelation 19:10 KJB] working in holy men, as they are moved by the Holy Ghost [2 Peter 1:20-21 KJB], thus the number 6 is the number of man [Genesis 1:26-31 KJB].
Thus see Revelation 1, 4 & 5, etc. It is the imagry of the Holy Place, not the Most Holy place.
I do not agree my friend. All I am seeing from him and you is SDA teachings.
I am sure you are sincere in what you have been taught, it is just that I do not believe that what you accept is what I understand the Scriptures to be saying.
There are just too many discrepancies and errors and non-Biblical items in SDA theology for me to take them seriousely.
Only because you rely upon misrepresentations of what we teach from scripture as it actually reads.
Notice:
Jesus indeed entered once for all, but
into Where specifically in Hebrews 9:12?
It was into the Sanctuary, the Holy place, through the First veil alone, not through the Second then:
Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood
he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption
for us. Hebrews 9:12
See Hebrews 9:2-3:
For
there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary. Hebrews 9:2
And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all; Hebrews 9:3
Paul is clear about the typology, First comes the First {part of the} Tabernacle, wherein was the Candlestick and the Table, even along with the Altar of Incense:
Now when these things were thus ordained,
the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God. Hebrews 9:6
Where is Jesus standing in Acts 7 {part of the Church of Ephesus} and where is He seen walking in Revelation 2:1?
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who
walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; Revelation 2:1
Which of the two compartments of the Tented Sanctuary is that? It is verily the First, not the Second. Hebrews 9:12 {as also vs 24
"agia" and vs 25,
"ta agia"} simply reads
ta agia, which is the Sanctuary, and
not agia agion, the Holy of Holies.
Nor yet that he should offer himself often,
as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; Hebrews 9:25
Paul is very clear about the separation of the two veils. It
never says Jesus entered through the Second Veil, and did not then need to at His 2nd Ascension, being from the Mt of Olives. We see Jesus ascending in Psalms 24 and compare Revelation 4 and 5 {compare to Acts 1-2 and Psalms 133; Exodus 29:7; Leviticus 8:12; also needed to be 12, Exodus 28:21-22, 29:5, 39:14; then the Holy Spirit was sent - Revelation 5:6}. Revelation 4 speaks of the First Veil:
John is looking from earth (Isle of Patmos), which is the Courtyard into the First Door/Veil, which is looking into the Holy Place:
After this I looked, and, behold,
a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard
was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. Revelation 4:1
Thus John is taken in the Holy Place, the First 'Tabernacle' of Heaven, revealing the 7 lamps which sat directly across from {before} the Table of Shewbread which was Crowned, and had two stacks, representing the Throne of God in the Holy Place:
And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and
there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. Revelation 4:5
Revelation 3:8, in the period of the 6th Church, thousand{s} of years {1800+ yrs} later from the First Church of Ephesus, another door/veil is seen opened in Heaven, while the first was closed, and this is also witnessed in Daniel:
And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David,
he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; Revelation 3:7
I know thy works: behold,
I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. Revelation 3:8
I saw in the night visions, and, behold,
one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. Daniel 7:13
Jesus was presented
once as the Sacrifice, once for all (Revelation 5:6),
yes,
but if any mean by that, that Jesus was not again brought into the presence of the Father since His Ascension from the Mt of Olives, that would be incorrect, since the Father had to move from the Most Holy Place to meet Jesus (Psalms 24; Revelation 4:2, "A throne was set (put into place, which means it wasn't in that spot before, it was somewhere else, and then the Father sits, which mean He wasn't sitting there in that palce before that moment") and since Jesus and the Father
moved later from the Holy Place in the Heavenly into the Most Holy Place in 1844 (Daniel 7:9-10, 8:13-14,26; Revelation 9:15, 14:6-7, &c), and the Father went first, with the Son coming after as is apparent from Daniel and Revelation (in the 6th church, Philadelphia, and a door closes (first door into the Holy) an another door opens (second door into the Most Holy Place) all in the same House of the LORD.
Jesus didn't stand in the Holy of Holies in the Heavenly in the first Church age of Ephesus, but rather began to do so in the 6th Church Age of Philadelphia.
Jesus will also move again back into the Holy Place, not as Mediator, that door will have been shut forever {Luke 13:25; Daniel 12:1 &c}, but coming as King of Kings, before coming out unto this earth, Hebrews 9:28 and Leviticus 16, even as 2 Kings 11:11-12.
It is quite apparent from Revelation 20 that the Scapegoat portion of Leviticus 16 & 23 is still yet to take place.
