Jesus is our sabbath

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Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The Sabbath was one of many things that were shadows of things to come which means they would be fulfilled and replaced with something much greater.

Hello brother you do know that none of the scriptures you have provided say that Jesus is a Sabbath right?

You misinterpret Colossians 2 because you mix up your shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal laws (10 commandmetns) *EXODUS 20:1-17 which give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you know what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD pointed to?

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Heb 4:7 Much later God told David to make the promise again, just as I have already said, "If you hear his voice today, don't be stubborn!"
Heb 4:8 If Joshua had really given the people rest, there would not be any need for God to talk about another day of rest.
Heb 4:9 But God has promised us a Sabbath when we will rest, even though it has not yet come.
Heb 4:10 On that day God's people will rest from their work, just as God rested from his work.
Heb 4:11 We should do our best to enter that place of rest, so that none of us will disobey and miss going there, as they did.

Hebrews 4:11
Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest,.... Not eternal rest; this is not to be entered into now; nor is an entrance into it to be obtained by labour; salvation is not by works; eternal life is a free gift; good works do not go before to prepare heaven for the saints, but follow after: nor is the saints' entrance into it a precarious thing; God has promised it, and provided it for his people; Christ is in the possession of it, and is preparing it for them; and the Spirit of God is working them up for the self same thing, and Christ will give them an abundant entrance into it: but the Gospel rest is here meant, that rest which believers now enter into, and is at this present time for them, Heb_4:3 and though true believers are entered into it

You misinterpret HEBREWS 4 which is talking about God's REST which is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH that none enter into without believing and following God's WORD.

WHAT IS HIS REST (God's) IN HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4?

HEBREWS 4
[1], Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[2], For to us was the gospel preached, as well as to them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
[3], For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
[4], For he spoke in a certain place of the SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And God did rest the SEVENTH DAY from all his works.
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And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

NOTE: CONTEXT is God's REST from the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH REST OF CREATION (v4-5) and those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW GOD's WORD [the GOSPEL] enter into God's SABBATH REST as GOD did on the SEVENTH DAY of the week. CONTEXT is GOD's SEVENTH DAY SABBATH REST and those who believe or do not believe God's WORD do not enter into that rest.

[6], Seeing therefore it remains that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
[7], Again, he limits a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if you will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
[8], For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
[9] SO THEN, IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH.

[10], For he that is entered into his rest, he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his. [11], Let us labor therefore to enter that rest, [God’s REST the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH] lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief [rejecting God’s WORD and sin; Hebrews 3].

KEY POINTS OF HEBREWS 4:9

Now notice Hebrews 4, verse 9: “SO THEN, IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH.” In verses 1, 3, 4 and 8, the Greek word for “rest” is katapausin. It means “rest.” But in verse 9, the Greek word for “rest” is sabbatismos, which is a Hebrew word—Sabbat, which means “the Sabbath”—combined with a Greek suffix—ismos, which means “a keeping of” or “a doing of.” Put together, sabbatismo means “a keeping of the Sabbath.” When correctly translated, Hebrews 4:9 should read, “There remains therefore a keeping of the Sabbath to the people of God.”

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INTERLINEAR HEBREWS 4:9

αρα απολειπεται σαββατισμος τω λαω του θεου
So then there remains a Sabbath rest to the people - of God

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Parallel translations of HEBREWS 4:9

New International Version
There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;

English Standard Version
So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God,

Berean Study Bible
So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

Berean Literal Bible
So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

New American Standard Bible
So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

Christian Standard Bible
Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God's people.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Therefore, a Sabbath rest remains for God's people.

International Standard Version
There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God to keep,

NET Bible
Consequently a Sabbath rest remains for the people of God.

New Heart English Bible
There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
SO THEN, IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH.

New American Standard 1977
There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

American Standard Version
There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.

Darby Bible Translation
There remains then a sabbatism to the people of God.

English Revised Version
There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.

Weymouth New Testament
It follows that there still remains a sabbath rest for the people of God.

World English Bible
There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

Young's Literal Translation
there doth remain, then, a Sabbatic rest to the people of God,

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continuing...

[10], For he that is entered into his rest (v9 SABBATH REST), he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
[11], Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief (Heb 3).

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CONCLUSION: Yep lots of scripture here showing that if you do not enter into God's Gospel rest you cannot enter his SABBATH REST. v 1-4 is the context of the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH confirmed in v9-11 Hebrews 3-4 is talking about the Gospel and the keeping of God's SEVENTH DAY SABBATH by BELIEVING and FOLLOWING God's WORD. "There remains therefore a SABBATH rest to the people of God. Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief" v9-11. HEBREWS 4 supports the keeping of the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH by believing and following the Word of God.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

*Staff Edit* Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

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The burden was sin (1 John 3:4).
Not according to Acts 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

Peter isn't talking about sin.
 
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Every day can’t be the Sabbath. The 7th day is the Sabbath. Jesus kept the Sabbath and taught his folllwers to live like him. He never taught anybody that he was the Sabbath, nor that every day is the Sabbath if you follow him.
But Jesus did teach He was the rest they didn't have even though they kept the 7th day sabbath. Mat 11:28-30
 
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---Staff Edit---

Actually brother no the scriptures you posted earlier do not say Jesus is a Sabbath. There is not one scripture that you have posted that says JESUS is a Sabbath and there is no such thing as a NEW COVENANT Sabbath. This was also shown in post an earlier deleted post. You just simply ignored the post and all the scriptures in them. Happy to discuss it further with you if you like?
 
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Actually brother no the scriptures you posted earlier do not say Jesus is a Sabbath.


I disagree. They are clear he is the Sabbath, our true rest fulfilling the shadow of the former Sabbath.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The Sabbath was one of many things that were shadows of things to come which means they would be fulfilled and replaced with something much greater.
 
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I disagree. They are clear he is the Sabbath, our true rest fulfilling the shadow of the former Sabbath.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The Sabbath was one of many things that were shadows of things to come which means they would be fulfilled and replaced with something much greater.

You mix your shadow sabbaths up from the annual festivals with God's 4th commandment. This was shown to you in the scriptures posted here click me. Please feel free to respond to the scriptures in the link.

You mix up your Shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal law (10 Commandments) that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

Besides God's 4th Commandment which is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH written on stone, there were "SPECIAL" annual ceremonial Sabbath connected to the annual Jewish festivals in the OLD COVENANT written in the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT.

These ceremonial Sabbath were not God's 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments but were connected to annual festivals and could fall on ANY DAY of the week depending on the yearly cycle (please read LEVITICUS 23;24-39).

These ceremonial "SPECIAL" Sabbath were connected to..

* Annual festival of The blowing of trumpet (Leviticus 23:24)
* Annual Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:32)
* Annual Feast of tabernacles (Leviticus 23:39)

These "SPECIAL" Sabbath could fall on any day and were connected directly to these festivals that were prophetic in nature pointing to Jesus and God's plan of Salvation in the NEW COVENANT.

You have your Shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT mixed up with God's ETERNAL LAW that give us a KNOWLEDGE of sin (Romans 3:20).

DETAILED SCRIPTURE SUPPORT COLOSSIANS 2 LINKING THE NEW TESTAMENT TO OLD

DETAILED STUDY ON HEBREWS 4 here click me.

You have not posted a single scripture that says JESUS is our Sabbath.
 
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Not according to Acts 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

Peter isn't talking about sin.

The original citation, wasn't from Peter, or Acts 15, was it?

We were speaking about what Jesus said, weren't we?

Non-sequitur. Bait and Switch.

However, going back to Jesus, when He said, "I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28), which is being cited from Exodus 33:14, Jesus was speaking about rest from "sin", as Exodus 33 and 34 are in the context of God's own character and the Ten Commandments, see Exodus 20:5-6 in comparison.

The very evidence is in the next verse:

Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

...and in the previous context:

Mat 11:20 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:

Mat 11:21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.

... etc.

A life without sin (this is Christ's yoke, this is the rest), thus see John 1:29,36, etc., and turn to John 14:15; Exodus 20:6, and see God's rest right in the middle, given to mankind (Exodus 20:8-11).

Exodus 33:14 KJB - And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.

Matthew 11:28 KJB - Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Matthew 11:29 KJB - Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Matthew 11:30 KJB - For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Is there not the song, Would you be free from the Burden of Sin [1 John 3:4]?

This was why there was to be no Burdens borne upon the 7th Day Sabbath day of God, for the Day is the Sign of freedom from the burden of Sin! All who do not forsake their sins, shall never enter New Jerusalem, our heavenly home above:

Nehemiah 13:19 KJB - And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day.

Jeremiah 17:21 KJB - Thus saith the LORD; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem;

There are two yokes,

[1] the Yoke of Jesus Christ, and His ways, or

[2] the yoke of the devil, and his.

Those which laboured, laboured under the burden, the "laden" of several things,

[1] Sin -

Isaiah 1:4 KJB - Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

Psalms 33:8 KJB - There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.

Psalms 38:4 KJB - For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.

Isaiah 58:6 KJB - Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

Acts 8:23 KJB - For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.

John 8:31 KJB - Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

John 8:32 KJB - And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

John 8:33 KJB - They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

John 8:34 KJB - Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

...and because of their iniquities, corrupt men came in and ladened even further with false practices and ways to overcome sin, rules, regulations of worthlessness, which further nullified the commandments of God.

[2] Pharisaical, Lawyers, etc rules of works, traditions which negated the Law of God, and the Salvation of God, separating them from the pure and simple faith of Scripture -

Matthew 23:4 KJB - For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

Luke 11:46 KJB - And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.

[3] Fear of Eternal Death, because of sin, which is transgression of His Holy, Just and Good Law -

Hebrews 2:15 KJB - And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

Romans 6:23 KJB - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:16 KJB - Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

God/Jesus delivers from these, and gives Rest, which is the bringing us back into harmony with Himself, and His Ways and His Law, thus no longer at enmity, no longer in bondage, no longer servants of satan, but chilren of the Living God:

Exodus 20:2 KJB - I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Exodus 20:6 KJB - And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Exodus 20:8 KJB - Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Exodus 20:9 KJB - Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

Exodus 20:10 KJB - But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Exodus 20:11 KJB - For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

For True Rest, is found in God's empowering grace to obey God in His Law, not rebelling against Him in His Law. It is fully trusting in His saving Grace and Power to deliver from Sin/Selfishness, that we put away our own works for deliverance, put away sins, which are transgressions of His Holy Law, by that same Grace, but Rest with Him in His Rest, For He Delivers. The 7th Day Sabbath is the Sign of the Finished Work of Jesus, not only in Creation, but also in Salvation, Redemption in His death, He Rested. Who will trust and belive in His Finished Work with us?

Lucifer in Heaven, brought discord, strife and unrest when he rebelled and sinned in Heaven. And he again brought the same to our first parents, Adam/Eve. He [satan] brings the same to all who will refuse God, and refuse rest with Him [God/Jesus] in the 7th Day of His own choosing.

[4] The Burden of serving wicked Kings in rigorous bondage, because of their rebellions against God, and therefore their needs of chastizing Leviticus 26:13; Deuteronomy 28:48; Isaiah 9:4, 10:27, 14:25; Jeremiah 27:8; 1 Kings 12:11; Psalms 81:6 KJB, etc. For Israel in the time of Jesus was under the bondage of the Roman yoke, for their many transgressions.

Transgression and yoke of Bondage are linked:

Jeremiah 2:20 KJB - For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.

Lamentations 1:4 KJB - The yoke of my transgressions is bound by his hand: they are wreathed, and come up upon my neck: he hath made my strength to fall, the Lord hath delivered me into their hands, from whom I am not able to rise up.

The Devil is the Master Bondsman, enslaving all into sin and selfishness. He says get back to work, do not rest as God says, and do not listen to vain and idle words [of His Commandments], even as he said through Pharoah. The devil says the same through the world today... get back to work! Do not listen to God's requirements.

Yet Jesus came to set us free from the bondage of the Cruel Taskmaster, and brings us safely back into Harmony with Himself:

Isaiah 14:3 KJB - And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

Exodus 33:14 KJB - And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.

The Commandments of God are not burdensome, not grievious, but a joy and delight:

1 John 5:2 KJB - By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

1 John 5:3 KJB - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Love to God and man, is the keeping of the Ten Commandments of God, by the powerful Grace and Love of God.

Hosea 11:4 KJB - I drew them with cords of a man, with bands of love: and I was to them as they that take off the yoke on their jaws, and I laid meat unto them.

Those who worship the Beast, have no rest:

Revelation 14:11 KJB - And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
As God said to Israel of Old, so it is to be said unto us, Israel of "Today":

Deuteronomy 12:9 KJB - For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

"Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest ..."
 
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But Jesus did teach He was the rest they didn't have even though they kept the 7th day sabbath. Mat 11:28-30

You do not understand. They had the 7th day the sabbath of the Lord, but weren't actually keeping it, as the pharisees had made all kinds of man-made regulations which actually caused people to transgress the commandment (like modern day sunday sacredness foolishness, which is nothing but man-made dogma). This is why Jesus gave the examples He did, and set the sabbath back into its true Light, and showed everyone how to keep the 7th day the sabbath of the Lord holy, see Luke 4:14-19, and so on. Consider the jews in that scenario itself, they tried to murder Jesus on the sabbath, which is not keeping it holy.
 
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Christ fulfilled the Sabbath for us on Holy Saturday when God indeed rested from all his works.

Christ perfectly complied with "fulfilled" ALL God's commandments -- He was sinless.

And that includes "Do not take God's name in vain"
 
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I disagree. They are clear he is the Sabbath,

There is no "He is the Sabbath" in the actual Bible.
There is no "I am the weekly Sabbath so stop keeping that commandment" in the entire Bible.

Creative writing - not the same as scripture.
 
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There is no "He is the Sabbath" in the actual Bible.

I and others have provided scriptures that address the fact that the Sabbath was a shadow of what was to come and it came when Christ died on the cross.

There is no "I am the weekly Sabbath so stop keeping that commandment" in the entire Bible.

There is no scripture commanding gentiles to keep the original Sabbath nor is there one command anywhere after the death of Christ. It simply is not part of the new covenant. It was an old covenant thing only that was only commanded to the Jews.

Creative writing - not the same as scripture.

Yes, it is creative writing and not the same as scripture to suggest Christians keep the old Sabbath. It was only a shadow...now we have the light.
 
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I disagree. They are clear he is the Sabbath,

There is no "He is the Sabbath" in the actual Bible.
There is no "I am the weekly Sabbath so stop keeping that commandment" in the entire Bible.

Creative writing - not the same as scripture.

I and others have provided scriptures that address the fact that the Sabbath was a shadow of what was to come and it came when Christ died on the cross.

False

- the only texts we have on that are the ones pointing to the annual Sabbaths .. for example "Christ our Passover has been slain" 1 Cor 5.


There is no scripture commanding gentiles to keep the original Sabbath

Until you read Isaiah 56:6-8 as has been quoted to you so many times by now.
Until you read Isaiah 66:23 as has been quoted to you so many times by now.
Until you read Mark 2:27 as has been quoted to you so many times by now.


nor is there one command anywhere after the death of Christ.

False -

"The remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God" Hebrews 4.

By contrast the command "Do not take God's name in vain" is not quoted even once after the death of Christ. A "game" that means nothing at all.

As you have been shown so many times by now.



It simply is not part of the new covenant.

False. All Bible scholars agree that the NEW Covenant stated in Jer 31:31-33 saying that the LAW of God is "written on the heart" under the NEW Covenant - most certainly agree that the LAW of God known to Jeremiah and his readers included the TEN Commandments... all TEN.

As has been shown to you many times by now.

It was an old covenant thing only that was only commanded to the Jews.

False.

"from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
Isaiah 56:6-8 -- gentiles specifically singled out for Sabbath keeping



Yes, it is creative writing and not the same as scripture to suggest Christians keep delete one of the Ten Commandments.

Christ addressed that idea in Mark 7:6-13 -- as has been pointed out to you so many times - by now.
 
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I and others have provided scriptures that address the fact that the Sabbath was a shadow of what was to come and it came when Christ died on the cross.

Well that is not true brother. You have not provided a single scripture that says JESUS is a Sabbath because there is no scripture. Everything that was posted to try and say Jesus is the Sabbath was shown through the scriptures in God's WORD alone to be either taken out of context or misapplied.

If you disagree why not respond to all the posts and scriptures in them that disagree with you? If you cannot than at least you have something to think and pray about brother. Ignoring the scriptures provided as a help to you do not make them disappear and there is a lot of them.

This post is only sent in all respect and love brother. You are free to believe as you like as we are all only held accountable to God come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48. Until then maybe we need to agree to disagree.

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
 
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Actually brother no the scriptures you posted earlier do not say Jesus is a Sabbath. There is not one scripture that you have posted that says JESUS is a Sabbath and there is no such thing as a NEW COVENANT Sabbath. This was also shown in post an earlier deleted post. You just simply ignored the post and all the scriptures in them. Happy to discuss it further with you if you like?
Since there's no NT sabbath, you have no point to argue about.
 
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Since there's no NT sabbath, you have no point to argue about.

Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you.

WHAT DID JESUS AND THE APOSTLES TEACH ABOUT GOD’S LAW
(the scriptures below are no where near exhaustive)

Jesus taught the 10 commandments…..


1. Jesus kept God’s Law (10 commandments) and said the Law and the prophets would not pass away (Matthew 5:17-18)
2. Jesus taught others to follow the 10 commandments (Mark 10:17-21)
3. Jesus taught that Love is the fulfilling (doing) of God’s Law (10 commandments Matthew 22:36-40)
4. If we break God’s Law by following man-made traditions we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
5. Jesus says if we commit sin we are a servant of sin and he has come to free us from sin (John 8:32-36)
6. Jesus taught if you love God you will keep God’s Law and abide in His Love (John 14:15; 15:10
7. If anyone is breaking any of God’s commandments and teaching others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven <least = lost> (Matthew 5:19)
8. No one can obey God’s Law producing the fruit of obedience of ourselves and unless we abide in Jesus we can do nothing (John 15:4-10)

Paul affirms the Ten Commandments……

1. Paul teaches God's people keep the Sabbath Hebrews 4.
2. Paul tells gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Corinthians 7:19
3. Paul tells gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justified... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Romans 2:13-16
4. Paul asks that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Romans 3:31
5. Paul tells ALL Christians that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the Law of God neither indeed CAN they" Romans 8:6-8
6 Paul reaches all Christians under the NEW Covenant that God's LAW as known in Jeremiah 31:31-34 is "written on the heart and mind" Hebrews 8:7-11
7. Paul tells all Christians that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2 Timothy 3:16
AND He never claims that "if I did not write it -- it is not scripture for us today" -- as one or two have imagined for us.
8. Paul tells all Christians that the 5th commandment is the "FIRST commandment with a promise" Ephesians 6:1-2 and is binding on all Christians.
9. God's Law (10 commandments) are holy, just and good (Romans 7:12)
10. God's Law gives us a knowledge of what sin is (Romans 3:20; 7:7)
11. The penalty of breaking God's Law without Jesus is death (Romans 6:23)
12. If we break God's Law we dishonor God (Romans 2:23)
13. If we sin we are "under the Law" and guilty before God (Romans 3:19)
14. We are saved by faith but our faith establishes the Law in us (Romans 3:31)
15. If we are saved by grace we should not break God's Law (Romans 6:1-7)
16. We should not break God's Law if we are under grace (Romans 6:15)
17. We are to serve the Law of God through the mind because that is where sin starts (Romans 6:17; 7:25; 8:4; 12:2)
18. It is God's Law that brings us to Jesus (Galatians 3:24)
19. God's salvation frees us from sin so we can be obedient to God's Law and live a life of holiness (Romans 6:22)
20. We will be judged by God's Law and only those that are obedient will be justified because of their faith (Romans 2:4-13)
21. God's Law can only be obeyed through love and a changed heart which comes by faith in God's Word (Rom 2:21-29; 13:9-10; Hebrews 8:9-10)
22. If we break God's Law and are in unrepentant sin we will be lost and will received God's judgements (Hebrews 10:26-27)

John affirms the 10 commandments……

1. John says it is only by keeping God’s 10 commandments that we know that we know God (1 John 2:3)
2. If someone says that they know God and do not keep God’s 10 commandments they are lying and not telling the truth (1 John 2:4)
3. We should purify ourselves as Jesus is pure (1 John 3:3)
4. Sin is the breaking of God’s 10 commandments (1 John 3:4)
5. Whoever is abiding in Christ does not commit sin (1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10)
6. If you are in unrepentant sin you have not seen Jesus or know him (1 John 3:6)
7. John warns us that only those that are obedience to God’s Law are his true followers (1 John 3:7)
8. If someone is committing unrepentant sin they are following the devil and not God (1 John 3:7)
9. If you are born of God and abiding in him you will not commit sin (1 John 3:9; 1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10
10. It is the keeping of God’s commandments that is the difference between those that are following God and those that are not following God (1 John 3:10; 1 John 5:3)
11. It is only by Love through faith that we can keep God’s commandments (1 John 5:3-4)
12. God’s true believers in the end days will keep all of God’s commandments through faith in Jesus (Rev 14:12; 22:14)

James also affirms the 10 commandments…….

1. James says God’s Law (10 commandments) are a Royal Law (James 2:8)
2. If we break one of God’s commandments we a guilty before God as sinners breaking all of God’s Law and gave some examples of breaking God’s Law (James 2:9-11)
3. James says God’s Law is a law of liberty and freedom (James 2:12)
4. The 10 commandments (God’s Law) are the standard in the judgment (James 2:12)
5. If our faith does not have the fruit of obedience to God’s Law it is dead and not true faith (James 2:16-26)

Peter affirms the 10 commandments……..

1. Sanctification is to obedience to God’s Law (1 Peter 1:2)
2. We can only be changed from sin to obedience to God’s Law by the power of God and it will be revealed in the last days (1 Peter 1:5)
3. We should give up our sins to be holy because Jesus is holy (1 Peter 1:13-16)
4. Jesus is your example who did no sin (1 Peter 2:21-22)
5. Cease from sin and do not live in the flesh (1 Peter 4:1-3)
6. Judgement will begin at the house of God and sinners (those breaking God’s 10 commandments) will not be saved (1 Peter 4:17).
7. God has given us his precious promises and as we believe them God will grant us his divine power to live a life of Godliness (obedience to God’s Law; 2 Peter 1:2-4)
8. The Un-Godly (disobedient to God’s Law) will be like Sodom and Gomorrah (2 Peter 2:6)
9. If any turn away from God’s Law and are in unrepentant sin breaking any of God’10 commandments they will be lost (2 Peter 2:20-22)
10 God is not willing that any should perish but that everyone should come to repentance and turn away from sin to follow God’s 10 commandments because those that do not will receive the judgements of God (2 Peter 3:5-14)

What did Jesus and the Apostles teach about the Sabbath in the New Testament?

1. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)
2. Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27)
3. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)
4. If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4)
5. It is one of God’s 10 commandments we break it we are guilty or breaking all (James 2:8-12)
6. Breaking it is sin (1 John 3:4)
7. God’s true followers keep it Holy as God commanded (Revelation 14:12; Reverlation 22:14; Ezekiel 20:20)
8. Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matthew 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matthew 16:24; 1 Corinthians 11:1; Ephesians 5:1-21; Peter 2:20-22)
9. The Apostle kept the Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Revelation 1:10)

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CONCLUSION: Here is the summary brother God's 4th commandment is one of the 10 commandments (EXODUS 20:8-11). If we knowingly break in just like any other of the 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7.

HEBREWS 4:9 SO THEN, IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH.

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Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you and there is a lot of it. Let me know when you have some scripture to share.

Hope this helps.
 
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The original citation, wasn't from Peter, or Acts 15, was it?

We were speaking about what Jesus said, weren't we?
How? 1 Jn 3:4 doesn't contain the words of Jesus last I knew. Maybe they changed my Bible when I wasn't looking.
Non-sequitur. Bait and Switch.
Not on my part.
However, going back to Jesus, when He said, "I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28), which is being cited from Exodus 33:14, Jesus was speaking about rest from "sin", as Exodus 33 and 34 are in the context of God's own character and the Ten Commandments, see Exodus 20:5-6 in comparison.
Not even close.
The very evidence is in the next verse:

Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Evidently the 7th day sabbath didn't provide this. They kept the 7th day sabbath and had no rest that Mat 11:29 talks about. This is the rest God swore they would not enter. There's no connection to the 7th day sabbath rest.
...and in the previous context:

Mat 11:20 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:

Mat 11:21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.

... etc.

A life without sin (this is Christ's yoke, this is the rest), thus see John 1:29,36, etc., and turn to John 14:15; Exodus 20:6, and see God's rest right in the middle, given to mankind (Exodus 20:8-11).

Exodus 33:14 KJB - And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.

Matthew 11:28 KJB - Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Matthew 11:29 KJB - Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Matthew 11:30 KJB - For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Is there not the song, Would you be free from the Burden of Sin [1 John 3:4]?

This was why there was to be no Burdens borne upon the 7th Day Sabbath day of God, for the Day is the Sign of freedom from the burden of Sin! All who do not forsake their sins, shall never enter New Jerusalem, our heavenly home above:

Nehemiah 13:19 KJB - And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day.

Jeremiah 17:21 KJB - Thus saith the LORD; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem;

There are two yokes,

[1] the Yoke of Jesus Christ, and His ways, or

[2] the yoke of the devil, and his.

Those which laboured, laboured under the burden, the "laden" of several things,

[1] Sin -

Isaiah 1:4 KJB - Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

Psalms 33:8 KJB - There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.

Psalms 38:4 KJB - For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.

Isaiah 58:6 KJB - Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

Acts 8:23 KJB - For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.

John 8:31 KJB - Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

John 8:32 KJB - And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

John 8:33 KJB - They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

John 8:34 KJB - Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

...and because of their iniquities, corrupt men came in and ladened even further with false practices and ways to overcome sin, rules, regulations of worthlessness, which further nullified the commandments of God.

[2] Pharisaical, Lawyers, etc rules of works, traditions which negated the Law of God, and the Salvation of God, separating them from the pure and simple faith of Scripture -

Matthew 23:4 KJB - For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

Luke 11:46 KJB - And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.

[3] Fear of Eternal Death, because of sin, which is transgression of His Holy, Just and Good Law -

Hebrews 2:15 KJB - And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

Romans 6:23 KJB - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:16 KJB - Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

God/Jesus delivers from these, and gives Rest, which is the bringing us back into harmony with Himself, and His Ways and His Law, thus no longer at enmity, no longer in bondage, no longer servants of satan, but chilren of the Living God:

Exodus 20:2 KJB - I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Exodus 20:6 KJB - And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Exodus 20:8 KJB - Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Exodus 20:9 KJB - Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

Exodus 20:10 KJB - But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Exodus 20:11 KJB - For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

For True Rest, is found in God's empowering grace to obey God in His Law, not rebelling against Him in His Law. It is fully trusting in His saving Grace and Power to deliver from Sin/Selfishness, that we put away our own works for deliverance, put away sins, which are transgressions of His Holy Law, by that same Grace, but Rest with Him in His Rest, For He Delivers. The 7th Day Sabbath is the Sign of the Finished Work of Jesus, not only in Creation, but also in Salvation, Redemption in His death, He Rested. Who will trust and belive in His Finished Work with us?

Lucifer in Heaven, brought discord, strife and unrest when he rebelled and sinned in Heaven. And he again brought the same to our first parents, Adam/Eve. He [satan] brings the same to all who will refuse God, and refuse rest with Him [God/Jesus] in the 7th Day of His own choosing.

[4] The Burden of serving wicked Kings in rigorous bondage, because of their rebellions against God, and therefore their needs of chastizing Leviticus 26:13; Deuteronomy 28:48; Isaiah 9:4, 10:27, 14:25; Jeremiah 27:8; 1 Kings 12:11; Psalms 81:6 KJB, etc. For Israel in the time of Jesus was under the bondage of the Roman yoke, for their many transgressions.

Transgression and yoke of Bondage are linked:

Jeremiah 2:20 KJB - For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.

Lamentations 1:4 KJB - The yoke of my transgressions is bound by his hand: they are wreathed, and come up upon my neck: he hath made my strength to fall, the Lord hath delivered me into their hands, from whom I am not able to rise up.

The Devil is the Master Bondsman, enslaving all into sin and selfishness. He says get back to work, do not rest as God says, and do not listen to vain and idle words [of His Commandments], even as he said through Pharoah. The devil says the same through the world today... get back to work! Do not listen to God's requirements.

Yet Jesus came to set us free from the bondage of the Cruel Taskmaster, and brings us safely back into Harmony with Himself:

Isaiah 14:3 KJB - And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

Exodus 33:14 KJB - And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.

The Commandments of God are not burdensome, not grievious, but a joy and delight:

1 John 5:2 KJB - By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

1 John 5:3 KJB - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Love to God and man, is the keeping of the Ten Commandments of God, by the powerful Grace and Love of God.

Hosea 11:4 KJB - I drew them with cords of a man, with bands of love: and I was to them as they that take off the yoke on their jaws, and I laid meat unto them.

Those who worship the Beast, have no rest:

Revelation 14:11 KJB - And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
As God said to Israel of Old, so it is to be said unto us, Israel of "Today":

Deuteronomy 12:9 KJB - For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

"Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest ..."
I suggest you consider complete conversation Jesus had with Nicodemus.
 
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You do not understand. They had the 7th day the sabbath of the Lord, but weren't actually keeping it, as the pharisees had made all kinds of man-made regulations which actually caused people to transgress the commandment (like modern day sunday sacredness foolishness, which is nothing but man-made dogma). This is why Jesus gave the examples He did, and set the sabbath back into its true Light, and showed everyone how to keep the 7th day the sabbath of the Lord holy, see Luke 4:14-19, and so on. Consider the jews in that scenario itself, they tried to murder Jesus on the sabbath, which is not keeping it holy.
They kept the 7th day sabbath much better than you do. Yes I understand that's opinion. You stated yours, so that entitles me to state mine. So do you want me to support my opinion? If I were you I'd say no thank you.
 
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There is no "He is the Sabbath" in the actual Bible.
There is no "I am the weekly Sabbath so stop keeping that commandment" in the entire Bible.

Creative writing - not the same as scripture.
You don't understand.
 
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