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I never said he was a "wise" man, and I never put a great deal of faith in his interpretation of scripture.
However, his interpretation of some passages does reflect the general understanding of Jews who lived during that time.

John 10:22 bears witness to the events of 167 BC, by Antiochus Epiphanes.
The writings of the Maccabbees also confirm these facts.

Bible scholars all over the world have used Josephus as a historian of his time.
Much of what we know about the destruction of Jerusalem during 70 AD has come from his writings.

What did he say that conflicts with your man-made doctrine?


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You say the pharisee josephus understands.

Daniel 12:10 Many will be purified, made spotless, and refined, but the wicked will continue to act wickedly. None of the wicked will understand, but the wise will understand.

Either josephus is a blind leader of the blind or josephus is wise.
Which is it?

Josephus never followed Christ and never converted.
 
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Dave, I appreciate your good spirit but your information blows me away and I don't think God intended for it to be so complex.

Thanks Richard, but i don't even think that we've scratched the surface of it's complexity.

I'm able to shift gears as the events unfold. Like yourself, i also was on the lookout for a global earthquake as there seemed to be three in Revelation's narrative.

On November 11 we had that strange seismic wave that ran around the globe in 20 minutes, and then on November 14 John Chau proclaimed the Gospel to the ends of the earth.

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

And then shall the end come.

A few weekends ago i had some fun taking with some of the seven heads of the composite beast on a "religious" forum. There were some smart atheists and pagans over there but i think i had them frightened that we're at the end of days right now. When people get scared they get mad and then they deleted my posts.

They get mad because they mourn as those do who have no hope. We have the blessed hope, so even though it's spooky, we also are excited. We know also that God, through Christ Jesus, will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep.

“God, I thank you for choosing me, before I was even yet formed in my mother’s womb, to be Your messenger of Your Good news to the people of North Sentinel Island.” - John Chau​

Time can be spent on googling North Sentinel Island.

Sentinel

1. a person or thing that watches or stands as if watching.

2. a soldier stationed as a guard to challenge all comers and prevent a surprise attack: to stand sentinel.

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The Sentinelese- perhaps the most isolated people in the world!
The Sentinelese- perhaps the most isolated people in the world!

blog.godreports.com/2018/11/slain-missionary-john-chau-quarantined-himself-took-immunizations-to-avoid-harming-tribe-battled-with-his-emotions/

There's lots of stories going back to even the Marco Polo days where he made a comment about them.

From National Geographic:

"The unique situation of the Sentinelese—as the only uncontacted tribe in the world inhabiting their own island—makes them “exceptionally vulnerable”
www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/2018/11/andaman-islands-tribes/

The only uncontacted tribe in the world.

I posted the similar notes to these on a couple of other forums. One of the forums is a "religious" forum, but it's not Christian, anyone can post there. There's lots of Atheists, Satanists and Pagans, Bahais, Eastern mystics, Muslims, you name it. A couple Saturdays ago it was very busy. It was spooky. The thread went from 177 views to 1362 in 36 hours.

I think that i had some of them concerned that this IS an end of the world indicator. They were smart people. They certainly did get agitated. When people get scared, they get mad and the moderators started deleting my posts. And there are some mean spirited people on that forum. Very disrespectful to the young man who was killed. It was very busy. www.religiousforums.com/threads/american-christian-missionary-killed-by-tribespeople.215055/

And then a weird thing happened and i started believing it too. Look up the history of North Sentinel Island. Marco Polo and the British were making comments about NOT visiting the natives there. Those guys come out to kill visitors every time. One time in 2006 two fishermen fell asleep in their boat, the anchor slipped in the night and when they drifted into that shore they woke up as they were being macheted to death.

Even if you google the ten most remote places on earth, they are still places that people can travel to and bring a Bible along. Or they are places where communication signals can reach, and the Good News of the Gospel can be delivered to people with TV or radio. But not North Sentinel Island. They are the last humans left on the planet who remain totally isolated from modern civilization. And now John Chau delivered his waterproof Bible to them.

Another way to look at it is, if John DIDN'T go to North Sentinel, it could NOT be said that the Gospel had been proclaimed everywhere. There would always be someone that could say for example: "well, they didn't get to Sentenal island yet, the end can't come yet"".

John Chau wrote describing a man wearing a white crown possibly made of flowers taking a “leadership stance” by standing atop the tallest coral rock on the beach.

The man yelled, and John responded, singing some worship songs and yelling back something in Xhosa, a language he apparently knew a few words of from when he coached soccer in South Africa a few years ago.

“They would often fall silent after this,” he wrote. Other efforts to communicate with tribe members ended with their bursting out in laughter.
The people on that island, like the Jews in the first century, did not recognize the time of their Visitation. But it was a technical success, the Gospel was delivered to them. The Gospel was proclaimed. And the messenger paid a high price for it's delivery.

“I hollered, ‘My name is John, I love you and Jesus loves you,’ ” he wrote in his journal. One of the juveniles shot at him with an arrow, which pierced his waterproof Bible, he wrote.​

I find that this comes at an uncanny point in time. My interest in this story is not a casual one. Most people have forgot about it already. I can't let it go for some reason. If this had happened a few years ago, i don't think it would bug me too much. Right now, with everything else going on, it looks like just another one of TOO many coincidences. I wonder now if the Lord did not raise John Chau up, AND these Sentinelese also to be vessels in the fulfillment of scripture in these last days.

I know there are other isolated tribes in places like South America, but not like these guys. The south American ones are still on the same land mass. These Sentinelese are notoriously remote. The MOST remote.

"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all nations; and then shall the end come. - Matthew 24:14

"And you will be my witnesses, telling people about me everywhere--in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." - Acts 1:8​

And now the Gospel has reached to "the ends of the Earth".

The disciples continue their witnessing through their written word which can be found in the water proof Bibles of today.

"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be proclaimed.​

It just says that this Gospel will be PROCLAIMED. It doesn't say that it will be accepted or realized or even understood.

And then shall the end come.

The world's last isolated humans: Rare footage captures members of the hostile island tribe who shun aid and KILL visitors on sight.

  • The indigenous tribe has lived on North Sentinel Island in the Indian Ocean for an estimated 60,000 years
  • Rare footage has been compiled of the few times outsiders have attempted to contact them since the 1960s
  • Islanders have been known to fire arrows or toss stones at low-flying aircraft on reconnaissance missions
  • In 2006, two illegal fisherman were killed by the Sentinelese for drawing too close to their shores
  • India's government has given up on making contact with the islanders and established a ban on visiting there

www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/...-captures-Sentinelese-tribe-Indian-Ocean.html

Sentinelese-tribe-Chau.jpg


Listen to what Michael says in this short video.

I agree with him.


November 11 + 40 days = the Solstice. December 21.

Jupiter and Mercury have a conjunction on December 21.

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Now i'm watching this Paul Watchman Dawson video and it's giving me the willies.


Quick link to the part i find spooky:

v637g.app.goo.gl/WdrDL9WAv8Z3Z8fB6

I can't think of a reason why i find it so spooky, maybe because i'm not sure what happens next.

But would God use this pagan celebration for the rapture?

Or for something else?

Why would all those pagans from history past have any knowledge of the times or the SEASONS that the Father has set by His own Authority?

The Holiday SEASON.

The Solstice marks the time and the change of the season into WINTER.

The Fig Tree sheds it's WINTER fruit.

Pray that you flight not be in WINTER or on the Sabbath.

This Friday the 21st is the first day of WINTER,
Followed at sundown by the Sabbath on Saturday.

I know Richard,
it's a complicated world at times.

If we want it to be.

Strange waves rippled around the world, and nobody knows why
 
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You sure put much faith in joesephus interpretation of scripture.If im,not mistaken josephus was a pharisee.You know,one of those guys Jesus said was a blind leader of the blind
But you believe josephus is a very wise man.
History (Josephus) is not about wisdom, just the facts and unless you have a better source for 70 AD than an eye-witness, I think you should update your focus to the present time with present truth. The "True Witness" tells the aggelos (Messenger) to the last lukewarm church content with its materialism (western Christianity) that he is blind and naked, a bad combination when someone is at the door knocking--can't find it, can't open, and it fits broadly most pastors, priests and rabbis today.
 
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I think you should update your focus to the present time with present truth.

Yes, that's what i say too.

I'm not worried about the Old Time Jews missing the time of their Visitation, i'm worried about us missing the time of OUR Visitation.

How did Josephus get into this deal anyway?

Lets, as you so wisely put it, update our focus to the present time with present truth.

Let the new light shine.
 
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This is NOT a man-made doctrine. If we are afraid people might laugh at us, we should grow up--everyone but Noah's family died because they were afraid to be laughed at

Did Cornelius have to speak the sacred name before he received the Holy Spirit, in the passage below?

Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Act 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Act 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
Act 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
Act 10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
Act 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

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Hi, I'm new. I'm concerned about the times, but not sure where to post this.
2015 was marked by seven “when-then” signs that signal the “kingdom of God”--the other phrase in Christ’s announcement…

“The sun shall be darkened and the moon turned to blood before the day of the Lord.”
The rare solar eclipse on the equinox and a blood moon two weeks later on Passover fulfilled Joel 2:31 above where the word for ‘before’ is paniym. It means face or facing.

Those events are facing the end-time ‘day of the Lord,’ along with the other signs.

What did Christ mean, the kingdom of God is at hand in Mark 1:15?

When Christ proclaimed this 2000 years ago He had an internal kingdom in mind, saying ‘Blessed are the meek, the merciful--the kingdom is within us if we have God’s Spirit from a surrender of our lives to Him, Lk 17:21

The disciples understood that, but that’s not what they were looking for when they asked if Christ would restore the kingdom, Acts 1.

Christ replied, “It is not for you to know the times and seasons…” That phrase is found only once before, in Daniel 2:21 where God sets up kings.

That chapter also proves the Bible correct for 2500. Since the four kingdoms of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Grecia and Rome, no kingdom has ruled the world. The Roman Empire, was represented by the legs of iron.

Christ’s “times and seasons” when the kingdom will be restored is ALSO found in 1Thessalonians 5:1-3…

Paul said “you know the times and seasons, for the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night, for when they shall say ‘Peace and safety,’ sudden destruction comes on them.”

The Iran Nuclear Treaty in 2015 was ‘Peace and safety,’ and it was updated by the UN theme for 2017 that included those words.

Other signs in 2015 need explaining…
“When you see the abomination…standing where it ought not…flee” Mark 13:14

Three signs in 2015 could qualify as an abomination. The Bible calls same sex union an abomination in Leviticus 18:22 and it was ‘standing where it ought not’ in the US Supreme Court. Obama’s White House gave approval with the rainbow lights above.

Early Christians understood Christ’s words to mean the Roman army that came to Jerusalem in 66 AD, so they fled and were spared the siege by Titus in 70 AD

In 2015, a JADE HELM drill meant Homeland Eradication of Local Militants that some say was a test for when martial law is set up.
The pope also represents the "mother of abominations" in Rev 17:5 and he was "standing where he ought not" (Mark 13:14) in the US Congress in 2015.
More could be said, but the point is, the Bible has many references to 3 1/2 years like Elijah's ministry, Christ's time and in Daniel 12 or Rev 11:3, 13:5. The Roman General Cestius coming to Jerusalem in the fall of 66 AD was the sign that early believers took to flee as Christ said before Titus came 3 1/2 years later. We had the signs 3 years ago, but most Christians are numb from signs and are stuck in cities when they should consider an exit plan to be in harmony with Christ's words. When martial law comes, "one shall be taken and the other left" may have a new meaning for dreamy people who think it's about a rapture. They should read the last verse of Luke 17 to see the real meaning.

Hey,

I think its cool that you are interested in the end times. Did you know that the name of the book of Revelation has actually been shortened. It was originally called the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which he had wrote to go to his servants. So, once you think about it Jesus did not have the book wrote for everyone to try to figure out the end times, he had it wrote to warn his servants of what is to come. So, I ask you are you a servant of Jesus Christ? Are any of the so called Christians in the world actually serving Jesus Christ? The reason I ask is because most Christians can not even name 10 things that Jesus commanded his followers to do. Can you? So i suggest you start with reading the four gospels like you have never read them before and find out what Jesus actually taught Christians to do. Then the book of revelations will make more sense. You know the mark of the beast in (revelation 13:16,17) says we can't buy or sale without this mark. Did you know that Jesus taught his followers that they can not work for both God and mammon (money) at the same time. (Luke 16:13, Matt.6:24) So, Jesus is giving us a blue print on how to live, check it our for yourself in the four gospels.

Peace and love
 
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History (Josephus) is not about wisdom, just the facts and unless you have a better source for 70 AD than an eye-witness, I think you should update your focus to the present time with present truth. The "True Witness" tells the aggelos (Messenger) to the last lukewarm church content with its materialism (western Christianity) that he is blind and naked, a bad combination when someone is at the door knocking--can't find it, can't open, and it fits broadly most pastors, priests and rabbis today.

You believe wisdom has nothing to do with understanding the prophecies josephus was interpreting for his followers?

Daniel 12:10 Many will be purified, made spotless, and refined, but the wicked will continue to act wickedly. None of the wicked will understand, but the wise will understand.

The word of God says it does.
 
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Yes, that's what i say too.

I'm not worried about the Old Time Jews missing the time of their Visitation, i'm worried about us missing the time of OUR Visitation.

How did Josephus get into this deal anyway?

Lets, as you so wisely put it, update our focus to the present time with present truth.

Let the new light shine.
I think the message for our time is seen in Christ's words to "prophesy again" in Rev 10:11.
The context was John's bitter belly when followers of Wm Miller (Baptist in 1844 proclaimed impending judgment on the world and "the Bridegroom comes" (wedding parable) but not rapture or judgment then.
But the Greek word for judgment in Rev 14:7 is krisis and the world is in a crisis, and the US deserves judgment like Egypt because they killed babies (Exod 1) but we've aborted 60 million and there are other parallels that could be drawn. Judgment also because Christ said to study the book of Daniel and his name means God is my Judge, But the book of Judges shows they were deliverers, but I'm not saying it's a rapture.
 
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I think the message for our time is seen in Christ's words to "prophesy again" in Rev 10:11.
The context was John's bitter belly when followers of Wm Miller (Baptist in 1844 proclaimed impending judgment on the world and "the Bridegroom comes" (wedding parable) but not rapture or judgment then.

This sounds like great stuff to me. This sounds like how Richard Ruhling speaks.

But the Greek word for judgment in Rev 14:7 is krisis and the world is in a crisis, and the US deserves judgment like Egypt because they killed babies (Exod 1) but we've aborted 60 million and there are other parallels that could be drawn. Judgment also because Christ said to study the book of Daniel and his name means God is my Judge, But the book of Judges shows they were deliverers, but I'm not saying it's a rapture.

But here i tend to step lightly on the USA. When the fire falls from heaven in the full presence of men, it will fall world wide, not just on the USA. This is tricky to explain, but you of all people should be able to consider it. Maybe not everything they told us is 100% accurate anymore. The second beast, the Lamb like beast, speaks like a dragon because he IS the dragon that gives his power and his throne and his great authority to the composite beast. He has TWO horns to signify his two prophetic time periods of authority, both the 1260 YEARS of Daniel 7 and Revelation 12, and the 42 months of Revelation 13.

Remember about the new light, it's been a long time since 1915. What the USA is right now this minute, may not be what it was in 1798. Remember the Foxe Book days and the Waldensians. Anna Charboniere does as her blood cries out to the Lord from beneath the alter:

AnnaCharboniereTortured.jpg



In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue. There were four blood moons and God was opening up a new continent. It would become the "earth" that helped the woman, the earth that swallowed the 1260 year flood that spewed forth from the dragon's mouth. A "place" prepared by God is a holy "place". (Let The Reader Understand).

I'm not the only one who has figured this out. The USA is also the "Glorious land" from Daniel 11. But these other two guys that i'll post here have not found the 1290 day empirical. So let the materials be consumed with caution, lest they cause stomach upset before bedtime.

Here's a snip-it and a page link to some other wise guys:

"Yet the greatest and most significant mistake being made by Christians at large, and U.S. foreign policy in particular, is our refusal to understand that the “glorious land,” designated by God as literal Palestine, has long since been transferred to the shores of America.

"This is the land designated in Bible prophecy as the “earth” that helps the “woman” (Revelation 12:14-16). America is the “place” designated by God for His New Testament church, the land that swallowed the flood of persecution during the latter part of the Dark Ages.

Entering the Glorious Land

And here's another link to one of Michael's videos. This link should start the video right in the place where he talks about the USA being the "holy place" after 1260 years of Paypal persecution came to an end.

Prophecy Uncovered! The WORST Year the World Will Endure - YouTube

There you have it. Not one. Not two. THREE witnesses to settle a matter.

:)

America America,
God shed His grace on thee.

Early may fly,
The Babylonian woe.
 
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This sounds like great stuff to me. This sounds like how Richard Ruhling speaks.



But here i tend to step lightly on the USA. When the fire falls from heaven in the full presence of men, it will fall world wide, not just on the USA. This is tricky to explain, but you of all people should be able to consider it. Maybe not everything they told us is 100% accurate anymore. The second beast, the Lamb like beast, speaks like a dragon because he IS the dragon that gives his power and his throne and his great authority to the composite beast. He has TWO horns to signify his two prophetic time periods of authority, both the 1260 YEARS of Daniel 7 and Revelation 12, and the 42 months of Revelation 13.

Remember about the new light, it's been a long time since 1915. What the USA is right now this minute, may not be what it was in 1798. Remember the Foxe Book days and the Waldensians. Anna Charboniere does as her blood cries out to the Lord from beneath the alter:

AnnaCharboniereTortured.jpg



In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue. There were four blood moons and God was opening up a new continent. It would become the "earth" that helped the woman, the earth that swallowed the 1260 year flood that spewed forth from the dragon's mouth. A "place" prepared by God is a holy "place". (Let The Reader Understand).

I'm not the only one who has figured this out. The USA is also the "Glorious land" from Daniel 11. But these other two guys that i'll post here have not found the 1290 day empirical. So let the materials be consumed with caution, lest they cause stomach upset before bedtime.

Here's a snip-it and a page link to some other wise guys:

"Yet the greatest and most significant mistake being made by Christians at large, and U.S. foreign policy in particular, is our refusal to understand that the “glorious land,” designated by God as literal Palestine, has long since been transferred to the shores of America.

"This is the land designated in Bible prophecy as the “earth” that helps the “woman” (Revelation 12:14-16). America is the “place” designated by God for His New Testament church, the land that swallowed the flood of persecution during the latter part of the Dark Ages.

Entering the Glorious Land

And here's another link to one of Michael's videos. This link should start the video right in the place where he talks about the USA being the "holy place" after 1260 years of Paypal persecution came to an end.

Prophecy Uncovered! The WORST Year the World Will Endure - YouTube

There you have it. Not one. Not two. THREE witnesses to settle a matter.

:)

America America,
God shed His grace on thee.

Early may fly,
The Babylonian woe.
SORRY, I think you shoul dconsider more Scripture and less other opinion.
God made a covenant with Abraham for the land between Egypt and the Euphrates for his seed, Gen 15:17, and Paul said, if you are Christ's, you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
When this land that has sinned against so much light (beast out of the earth in Rev 13:11) causes the world to make an image of the previous papal beast so that we have New World Order (image or look-alike to Old World Order) and it compels everyone to worship falsely so you can't buy or sell without compliance, God has a plan in the "latter day" context that you can see in Jer 31:1,8,16,17,31 that a 2nd witness is clear about--Ezek 36:24-28. It's also seen in Isa 11:11,15,16.
 
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Hi, I'm new. I'm concerned about the times, but not sure where to post this.
2015 was marked by seven “when-then” signs that signal the “kingdom of God”--the other phrase in Christ’s announcement…

“The sun shall be darkened and the moon turned to blood before the day of the Lord.”
The rare solar eclipse on the equinox and a blood moon two weeks later on Passover fulfilled Joel 2:31 above where the word for ‘before’ is paniym. It means face or facing.

Those events are facing the end-time ‘day of the Lord,’ along with the other signs.

What did Christ mean, the kingdom of God is at hand in Mark 1:15?

When Christ proclaimed this 2000 years ago He had an internal kingdom in mind, saying ‘Blessed are the meek, the merciful--the kingdom is within us if we have God’s Spirit from a surrender of our lives to Him, Lk 17:21

The disciples understood that, but that’s not what they were looking for when they asked if Christ would restore the kingdom, Acts 1.

Christ replied, “It is not for you to know the times and seasons…” That phrase is found only once before, in Daniel 2:21 where God sets up kings.

That chapter also proves the Bible correct for 2500. Since the four kingdoms of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Grecia and Rome, no kingdom has ruled the world. The Roman Empire, was represented by the legs of iron.

Christ’s “times and seasons” when the kingdom will be restored is ALSO found in 1Thessalonians 5:1-3…

Paul said “you know the times and seasons, for the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night, for when they shall say ‘Peace and safety,’ sudden destruction comes on them.”

The Iran Nuclear Treaty in 2015 was ‘Peace and safety,’ and it was updated by the UN theme for 2017 that included those words.

Other signs in 2015 need explaining…
“When you see the abomination…standing where it ought not…flee” Mark 13:14

Three signs in 2015 could qualify as an abomination. The Bible calls same sex union an abomination in Leviticus 18:22 and it was ‘standing where it ought not’ in the US Supreme Court. Obama’s White House gave approval with the rainbow lights above.

Early Christians understood Christ’s words to mean the Roman army that came to Jerusalem in 66 AD, so they fled and were spared the siege by Titus in 70 AD

In 2015, a JADE HELM drill meant Homeland Eradication of Local Militants that some say was a test for when martial law is set up.
The pope also represents the "mother of abominations" in Rev 17:5 and he was "standing where he ought not" (Mark 13:14) in the US Congress in 2015.
More could be said, but the point is, the Bible has many references to 3 1/2 years like Elijah's ministry, Christ's time and in Daniel 12 or Rev 11:3, 13:5. The Roman General Cestius coming to Jerusalem in the fall of 66 AD was the sign that early believers took to flee as Christ said before Titus came 3 1/2 years later. We had the signs 3 years ago, but most Christians are numb from signs and are stuck in cities when they should consider an exit plan to be in harmony with Christ's words. When martial law comes, "one shall be taken and the other left" may have a new meaning for dreamy people who think it's about a rapture. They should read the last verse of Luke 17 to see the real meaning.
Have you ever been in a cataclysmic forest fire? If you have you very quickly learn what those phrases about the sun and moon are referring to. Judea was burned to the ground during the war back then.

Further than this though. Break out your Bible software because those phrases are in prophecies about OT nations recorded in the OT as fulfilled.

About the age of the four empires. Few seem to know that the capitol of the Roman Empire was moved to Constantinople in 333 AD. A Roman emperor sat on the throne until 1453 ad. When the Turks conquered it and killed the last emperor.

What happend that changed the world immediately followed that. For the first time in human history Bibles got into the hands of the general public. This occurred first in Northern Europe. Ever since then the nations that have been most influenced by the Bible have been dominate in the world. And in those nations, because of the influence of Gods invisible kingdom. Beleivers have been afforded the opportunity to have all the earthly promises of God fulfilled in their generations. Something a thousand generations of saints never had. They just had the promise.

It’s not the end times. We are in the beginning stages of the great age of promise, promised and prophesied about throughout scripture. It’s not that there will not be any more end time scenarios in nations that don’t know the Lord or forsake him. It’s just that the end time prophecies in the Bible were about the end of the Old Coveant age and then later, the end of the age of the four gentile empires.
My web page goes over all this in great detail. Here is a link if you want to study it.
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SORRY, I think you shoul dconsider more Scripture and less other opinion.
God made a covenant with Abraham for the land between Egypt and the Euphrates for his seed, Gen 15:17, and Paul said, if you are Christ's, you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

I'm sorry too, so i won't belabor the retoric after this. And i obviously agree with us being Abraham's seed. But that land between Egypt and the Euphrates and old Jerusalem has shifted into New Jerusalem.

Other people also see how the Old Testament end time version won't always harmonize with every specification in the Daniel and Revelation story. From burning the wooden weapons to burying the dead for seven years. In the Revelation story the birds are supposed to be eating the dead who are lying all around with no one to bury them.

I remember that one SDA woman who thought that all those OT end time prophecies would take place in the "8th millenium".

But i think that the real reason is that those old Judaic prophecies were conditional in nature.

"Now let them put away their whoring and the dead bodies of their kings far from me, and I will dwell in their midst forever.​

What if they don't put away their whoring?, will Yeshua still dwell in their midst forever?

Can you not see the conditional nature of this?


"And if they are ashamed of all that they have done, make known to them the design of the temple, its arrangement, its exits and its entrances, that is, its whole design; and make known to them as well all its statutes and its whole design and all its laws, and write it down in their sight, so that they may observe all its laws and all its statutes and carry them out.​

And what if they're not ashamed of all that they've done? Will they still get that temple built?

Any woman can get a free abortion in Israel.

And Tel Aviv has the worlds #1 "Pride" day:

Pillars of Smoke - YouTube

Look again at this list.

The USA is at the bottom of these major nations that have made legal same sex marriage.

1) The Netherlands (2000)
2) Belgium (2003)
3) canada (2005)
4) Spain (2005)
5) South Africa (2006)
6) Norway (2009)
7) Sweden (2009)
8) Argentina (2010)
9) Iceland (2010)
10) Portugal (2010)
11) Denmark (2012)
12) Brazil (2013)
13) England and Wales (2013)
14) France (2013)
15) New Zealand (2013)
16) Uruguay (2013)
17) Luxembourg (2014)
18) Scotland (2014)
19) Finland: (signed 2015, effective 2017)
20) Ireland: (2015)
21) United States: (2015)<-------1290 Days------->X

When this land that has sinned against so much light (beast out of the earth in Rev 13:11) causes the world to make an image of the previous papal beast so that we have New World Order (image or look-alike to Old World Order) and it compels everyone to worship falsely so you can't buy or sell without compliance, God has a plan in the "latter day" context that you can see in Jer 31:1,8,16,17,31 that a 2nd witness is clear about--Ezek 36:24-28. It's also seen in Isa 11:11,15,16.

I'm about 50% with you on the mark of the beast idea. It's going to be about worship, yes, but the USA can't cause it to happen all over the world. The USA can't cause the Chinese or the Indians and Russians to take the mark.

I think the mark of the beast will be global. It will happen overnight and without warning because of the signs that the dragon is given the power to do on behalf of the composite beast. When the fire that he CAUSES to fall on the earth in the presence of men occurs, it will cause a world wide panic, a time of emergency.

People all over the world will think that the gates of hell have opened up. Survivors all over the planet will know that the God of the Bible is back and they will work feverishly to appease Him. Worship will become front page news. Thanks to the USA, Bibles have been translated and printed and distributed all over the world.

And yes, probably the head that was healed by the sword will be involved. Who else would the world turn to. He's an authority that is preeminent in his class. People will be in a rush to ask him: "what does God want us to do to make these judgments stop? If we don't do something quick, He's going to kill us all.

What do you think he'll say? Everybody get into church on Sunday. And everybody work on Saturday to clean up the destruction?

But it's not because of the USA, it's because of the signs that he is given the power to do on behalf of, or in the presence of, the composite beast.

Yep, that sounds like a big mess.

And thanks again for reading.

Take care.
 
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Did Cornelius have to speak the sacred name before he received the Holy Spirit, in the passage below?

Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Act 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Act 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
Act 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
Act 10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
Act 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

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Berean, In the same chapter, Acts 17, where the Bereans were more noble for searching Scripture, Paul saw an idol to an unknown God with no name and Paul said he would declare Him to them and the times of ignorance God winked but in time of Judgment, repentance is required.
The point about Cornelius proves nothing because God can honor the best intention of people who seek to serve Him, regardless of whether they know His name, and maybe they did know His name but it was not recorded, too much speculation but other passages are clear on the name, like the Lord's prayer and John 17, John 12:28,29
 
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The point about Cornelius proves nothing because God can honor the best intention of people who seek to serve Him, regardless of whether they know His name, and maybe they did know His name but it was not recorded, too much speculation but other passages are clear on the name, like the Lord's prayer and John 17, John 12:28,29

All man-made doctrines must ignore certain passages of scripture to make them work.

Your link said believers cannot be "sealed" unless they know the sacred name.

The example of Cornelius proves otherwise.

Let it go, and move on...


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The time that is fulfilled now is what Peter said not to ignore--when 1000 years are as a day, 2Peter 3:8. How would we know?
Take Daniel's prophecy of 70 weeks (of years) and realize that it also is 10 jubilees because the 50th year in Lev 25:9,10 was ALSO the 1st year of the next sequence. 10 Jubilees to Christ, but 50 Jubilees comes to 1995 when Pope John Paul went to the UN on the Day of Atonement (the day to proclaim jubilee in Lev 25:9--amazing coincidence, and then Pope Francis ALSO went to the UN, ALSO on a Day of Atonement in 2015. But WHY the 20 year gap?
If we try to integrate the jubilees into 1000 years that Peter said not to ignore, 490 + 490 = 980. The 20 years left over are marked by the papal visits and we are out of time because God gives man six days to do all his work (4th Commandment) and 1000 years are as a day.
I believe the events of 2015 are signals pointing 3 1/2 years to next spring, like the Roman General Cestius who came to Jerusalem 3 1/2 years before Titus. Trouble will be huge next spring...
Paul tells us a SUDDENLY is coming - it will be when the dead in Christ suddenly fly up out of their graves. This will start a chain reaction of events.

A moment later, Paul tells us, two groups of people get two different results: those living in the light of the gospel (born again) get raptured, as so escape the sudden destruction. Those living in darkness are left behind and so cannot escape: the sudden destruciton will be a worldwide earthquake caused by the dead in Christ rising. Paul tells us this earthquake is the start of the Day of the Lord or the Day of His wrath.

What we see then, is that the rapture, coming at a time when people are thinking peace and safety (a day like today) will be the trigger for the start of the Day of the Lord.

In Revelation, there is only one place Paul's rapture fits: between the 5th and 6th seals. The 5th seal is the martyrs of the church age, and the 6th seal begins the DAY. The church must be removed before THE DAY starts.

The rest of Revelation will follow: the 7th seal starting the 70th week, then the trumpet judgments...
 
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The time that is fulfilled now is what Peter said not to ignore--when 1000 years are as a day, 2Peter 3:8. How would we know?
Take Daniel's prophecy of 70 weeks (of years) and realize that it also is 10 jubilees because the 50th year in Lev 25:9,10 was ALSO the 1st year of the next sequence. 10 Jubilees to Christ, but 50 Jubilees comes to 1995 when Pope John Paul went to the UN on the Day of Atonement (the day to proclaim jubilee in Lev 25:9--amazing coincidence, and then Pope Francis ALSO went to the UN, ALSO on a Day of Atonement in 2015. But WHY the 20 year gap?
If we try to integrate the jubilees into 1000 years that Peter said not to ignore, 490 + 490 = 980. The 20 years left over are marked by the papal visits and we are out of time because God gives man six days to do all his work (4th Commandment) and 1000 years are as a day.
I believe the events of 2015 are signals pointing 3 1/2 years to next spring, like the Roman General Cestius who came to Jerusalem 3 1/2 years before Titus. Trouble will be huge next spring...
No matter what ANYONE says, the 70th week is still in our future. The rapture of the church will be the trigger. It will come first.
 
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Hi, I'm new. I'm concerned about the times, but not sure where to post this.
2015 was marked by seven “when-then” signs that signal the “kingdom of God”--the other phrase in Christ’s announcement…

“The sun shall be darkened and the moon turned to blood before the day of the Lord.”
The rare solar eclipse on the equinox and a blood moon two weeks later on Passover fulfilled Joel 2:31 above where the word for ‘before’ is paniym. It means face or facing.

Those events are facing the end-time ‘day of the Lord,’ along with the other signs.
You are 100 percent correct on this meaning "FACE/FACING" which throws many off, they say this must happen BEFORE the Day of the Lord thus God's Wrath starts at the 6th Seal. But of course God's Wrath starts with the 1st Seal and runs through the 7th Vial.

So IN THE FACE means in the presence and thus in the face of the Lord means in the Presence of the Day of the Lord. In other words, when the Sun and Moon actions of Joel happens, it will happen in the presence of the DOTL or during the DOTL which lasts 3.5 years. (And the 6th Seal comes to pass during that time, of course).

What did Christ mean, the kingdom of God is at hand in Mark 1:15?

When Christ proclaimed this 2000 years ago He had an internal kingdom in mind, saying ‘Blessed are the meek, the merciful--the kingdom is within us if we have God’s Spirit from a surrender of our lives to Him, Lk 17:21

The disciples understood that, but that’s not what they were looking for when they asked if Christ would restore the kingdom, Acts 1.

Christ replied, “It is not for you to know the times and seasons…” That phrase is found only once before, in Daniel 2:21 where God sets up kings.
The Church can not be overcome by the gates of hell. The Beast can only arise again once the Church is Raptured (Departed via 2 Thess. 2). Then and only then can the Man of Sin come forth and be revealed. The Kingdom of God is at hand, even though Christ has not yet Conquered Satan, we the Church are that earthly priesthood. Of course the world is still ruled by Satan, but we are the Kingdom of God. We (Church) turned the Fourth Beast from a fierce beast into a conveyor belt of the Gospel. Rome became the center of Christendom.


That chapter also proves the Bible correct for 2500. Since the four kingdoms of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Grecia and Rome, no kingdom has ruled the world. The Roman Empire, was represented by the legs of iron.

The Brits had a larger Empire than all of those, the reason there were no more Beasts is God saw Israel as Dead Men's Bones until 1948 when He breathed life back into those bones. There can be no Beast over Israel if there is no Israel. That is why the Brits nor the Ottoman Empire are considered Beasts.
 
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... But of course God's Wrath starts with the 1st Seal and runs through the 7th Vial.

So IN THE FACE means in the presence and thus in the face of the Lord means in the Presence of the Day of the Lord. In other words, when he Sun and Moon actions of Joel happens, it will happen in the presence of the DOTL or during the DOTL which lasts 3.5 years. (And the 6th Seal comes to pass during that time, of course).
You as well as most, insist on pulling the first seal out of its first century context, so come up with nonsense. The first five seals were opened as soon as Jesus got the book into His hands.

Don't take my word for it: go back and read Rev. 5 until you get it. John saw, in vision form, the very moment Jesus ascended and sent the Holy Spirit down. Do you imagine God was just wasting words - showing John something meaningless to the Revelation? Not a chance! Every word is right where God wanted and shows us what God wants us to know. The entire vision of the throne room was to set up the CONTEXT of the seals.

Please understand, this book, with the seals and what is inside the book, makes up MOST Of the book of Revelation. Yet you choose to ignore 2 chapters, as if they did not count in the whole picture. The book contains the 70th week of Daniel! If no one was ever found worthy to open the seals, then the 70th week would never come. If the 70th week never came, the 7th trumpet would never come, and the devil would remain as the god or prince of this world.

John saw that moment in time when Jesus ascended and sent the Holy Spirit down: 32 or 33 AD. Jesus took the book and immediately began opening the seals.

The first seal is the Church taking the Gospel to the world.
Seals 2-4 are the devil's attempts to stop the advance of the gospel.
Seal 5 is for the martyrs of the church.

The church has been waiting, almost 2000 years, between the 5th and 6th seals. The 6th seal starts the judgment (God's wrath) that those in the 5th seal were asking about.
 
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You as well as most, insist on pulling the first seal out of its first century context, so come up with nonsense. The first five seals were opened as soon as Jesus got the book into His hands.

Don't take my word for it: go back and read Rev. 5 until you get it. John saw, in vision form, the very moment Jesus ascended and sent the Holy Spirit down. Do you imagine God was just wasting words - showing John something meaningless to the Revelation? Not a chance! Every word is right where God wanted and shows us what God wants us to know. The entire vision of the throne room was to set up the CONTEXT of the seals.
That understanding to me is nonsensical and fits nothing. Rev. 4 and 5 is the Church in heaven after the Rapture. Jesus told us this book John was shown would be the things which he has seen (Jesus Glorified) in Rev. 1. The 7 Churches are then the things which ARE (Church Age) in Rev. 2 and 3. Then in Rev. 4-22 the things which will be hereafter.

The First Seal is the Anti-Christ man, that pretty basic. This is why there is like 10 people in the world that have this belief. The whole eschatology is based on Jesus not being found in Heaven, but hes also not found on earth or under the earth either, telling us it's metaphoric in nature, Jesus was in heaven as the Lamb the whole time, John just didn't understand that. No MAN was found to open the Seals but the Lamb was found.

The First Seal is the Anti-Christ brother.
 
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