ARE YOU READY FOR THE MARK OF THE BEAST?

LoveGodsWord · Dec 17, 2018

servantofiam said:
Ultimately, in the vision given to John at Patmos written in the Book of Revelation's, we are commanded to refuse the Mark and be beheaded if it comes down to that. And bottom line is, this command comes directly from God. So whether you have no idea pertaining to scripture and God, or you are a backslider refusing to listen and obey God, you are breaking a direct Command by God if you accept the Mark. And when you break it all down, a person taking the Mark is committing several sins against God. And without a doubt, they will be judged accordingly and found guilty!!

Brother the Mark of the BEAST is over sin not receiving the Mark. The judgments of God have only ever been poured out to mankind from Genesis to REVELATIONS all through time because of mankinds disobedience to God's 10 Commandments. If the MARK of the BEAST is over whorship as shown earlier than what commandment do you think most of the world does not follow from the 10 commandments which relates to worship?

servantofiam · Dec 18, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
Brother the Mark of the BEAST is over sin not receiving the Mark. The judgments of God have only ever been poured out to mankind from Genesis to REVELATIONS all through time because of mankinds disobedience to God's 10 Commandments. If the MARK of the BEAST is over whorship as shown earlier than what commandment do you think most of the world does not follow from the 10 commandments which relates to worship?

Yes, I see what you are specifying here.

I am using the actual Greek translation which is much clearer than the KJV Bible.

Two particular scriptures prove what you are saying and also there will be a literal mark on people.

Revelation 13:

8 And all who are dwelling on the earth will be worshiping it, everyone whose name is not written in the scroll of life of the Lambkin slain from the disruption of the world."

17 and that no one may be able to buy or sell except the one having the emblem of the wild beast, or its name, or the number of its name."

Verse 8 is clear about those before the earth was created...they were already not found in the Book of Life... and they will be worshipping the Beast!!

Verse 17 is clear about these people who worship the Beast, they will have an emblem on them that indicates they have the Beast's name or number.

But yes indeed, even before God as a Spirit hovered over the chaotic earth under water and spoke the command, "Let there be LIGHT," it was already determined then who would be in the Book of Life, and who would not and be worshipping the Beast!!

Powerful!!

1stcenturylady · Dec 18, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
ARE YOU READY FOR THE MARK OF THE BEAST?

WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST CLICK ME?

There is a simple study from God's WORD * DANIEL AND REVELATION and history here beastsmark.com for those who may be interested in the scriptures and some more detail.

God's WORD teaches that GOD'S PEOPLE ARE IN EVERY CHURCH! Theye are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD as much as God has revealed to them. *JOHN 10:16; ACT 17:30-31.

I would like to discuss the following scriptures here in this OP.

REVELATION 14:6-12
[6], And I saw another angel fly in midheaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and tribe, and tongue, and people,
[7], Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment has come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
[8], And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
[9], And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
[10], The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out undiluted into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
[11], And the smoke of their torment ascends up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receives the mark of his name.
[12], Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION (linked to scripture studies in this thread)

Q1. WHAT IS THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL? v6 linked
Q2. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO FEAR GOD? v7 linked
Q3. HOW DO WE GIVE GLORY TO GOD? v7 linked
Q4. WHAT IS THE JUDGMENT ABOUT? v7 linked
Q5. WHO DOES BABYLON THE HARLOT WOMAN REPRESENT? v8; 17:1-5; 18:1-9
Q6. THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS OVER WHORSHIP v8-12
Q7. WHO IS GOD’S TRUE CHURCH IN GOD’S WORD? v12
Q8. WHAT DOES A BEAST OF KINGDOM REPRESENT IN DANIAL AND REVELATIONS?
Q9 WHAT ARE THE SYMBOLS AND MEANING OF MARK, SIGN AND SEAL?
Q10. WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND WHEN DO PEOPLE RECEIVE IT?
Q11. THE SEAL OF GOD HOW DO WE GET IT?
Q12. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE CIVIL SUNDAY LAWS HAVE ALREADY PASSED?
Q13. WHO IS THE ANTICHRIST, THE MAN OF SIN, THE BEAST AND 666?
Q14. WHO DID THE EARLY REFORMERS BELIEVE THE ANTICHRIST WAS? 1/2
Q15. WHO DID THE EARLY REFORMERS BELIEVE THE ANTICHRIST WAS? 2/2

QUESTIONS TO THINK ABOUT

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FRIENDLY CHRISTIAN DISCUSSION AND SCRIPTURE ONLY PLEASE.

God bless you as you seek him through his Word.

I clicked on your first link and looked at the seal of God. It didn't say what it was, only that the 144,000 would be sealed. Do you know what the seal of God is? Scripture does say what it is, so I know. Do you?

LoveGodsWord · Dec 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
I clicked on your first link and looked at the seal of God. It didn't say what it was, only that the 144,000 would be sealed. Do you know what the seal of God is? Scripture does say what it is, so I know. Do you?

Hi 1stcenturylady,

Not sure how you missed it as it was in the very first section of that linked post. Did you click the right link? Below is a copy paste of the very beggining of the linked post in the OP on the Seal of God

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GOD’S PEOPLE ARE SEALED WITH GOD’S SPIRIT.

EPHESIANS 1:13 In whom you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after you believed, you were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise

2 CORINTHIANS 1:21-22 [21], Now he who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, is God; [22], Who has also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

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WHO ARE GOD'S PEOPLE THAT ARE SEALED WITH GOD'S SPIRIT?

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continues on.

Hope this helps.

1stcenturylady · Dec 18, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
Hi 1stcenturylady,

Not sure how you missed it as it was in the very first section of that linked post. Did you click the right link? Below is a copy paste of the very beggining of the linked post in the OP on the Seal of God

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GOD’S PEOPLE ARE SEALED WITH GOD’S SPIRIT.

EPHESIANS 1:13 In whom you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after you believed, you were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise

2 CORINTHIANS 1:21-22 [21], Now he who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, is God; [22], Who has also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

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WHO ARE GOD'S PEOPLE THAT ARE SEALED WITH GOD'S SPIRIT?

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continues on.

Hope this helps.

Yes, it is God's SPIRIT that we are sealed with! I was afraid you were going to say we were sealed with the Sabbath! My bad. I apologize for believing you had such tunnel vision.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
Yes, it is God's SPIRIT that we are sealed with! I was afraid you were going to say we were sealed with the Sabbath! My bad. I apologize for believing you had such tunnel vision.

The Sabbath is the seal of God's 10 Commandments as it is the only one of the 10 commandments that shows who's commandments the 10 commandments belong to. God's people by faith in Christ who walk in God's Spirit keep all the commandments of God *REVELATION 12:17; REVELATION 14:12; REVELATION 22:14; 1 JOHN 2:3-4. This is why the Sabbath is a sign that God's people worship the only true God of creation who saves his people from their sins *EXODUS 31:13. No one has God's Spirit neither can they be sealed by God's Spirit if they KNOWLINGLY breaking any of God's Commandments *1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:3-10; HEBREWS 10:26-27.

1stcenturylady · Dec 18, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
The Sabbath is the seal of God's 10 Commandments as it is the only one of the 10 commandments that shows who's commandments the 10 commandments are. God's people by faith in Christ who walk in God's Spirit keep all the commandments of God *REVELATION 12:17; REVELATION 14:12; REVELATION 22:14; 1 JOHN 2:3-4. This is why the Sabbath is a sign that God's people worship the only true God of creation who saves his people from their sins *EXODUS 31:13. No one has God's Spirit neither can they be sealed by it while KNOWLINGLY breaking any of God's Commandments *1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:3-10; HEBREWS 10:26-27.

The Sabbath was the SIGN of the Ten Commandments which was the Covenant. It was only in effect while the Covenant was still in rule. Have you never heard that Christians are under a NEW Covenant? We have a new sign of the Covenant - the cup of the New Testament. That cup represents the blood that the covenant is based on.

We also have New commandments that are based on the one eternal law, meaning they do not contradict the eternal law, anymore than the old Ten Commandments which were also based on the eternal law of God and did not contradict them. Each covenant had its own commandments. The old were not complete as they didn't have who we are to believe on, so was incomplete. The new does - Jesus by name. The old sign was obsolete when the New Covenant came into being and was replaced.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
The Sabbath was the SIGN of the Ten Commandments which was the Covenant. It was only in effect while the Covenant was still in rule. Have you never heard that Christians are under a NEW Covenant? We have a new sign of the Covenant - the cup of the New Testament. That cup represents the blood that the covenant is based on. We also have New commandments that are based on the one eternal law, meaning they do not contradict the eternal law, anymore than the old Ten Commandments which were also based on the eternal law of God and did not contradict them. Each covenant had its own commandments. The old were not complete as they didn't have who we are to believe on, so was incomplete. The new does - Jesus by name. The old sign was obsolete when the New Covenant came into being and was replaced.

We are under the NEW COVENANT now not the OLD COVENANT *HEBREWS 8:7-12. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT pointed to?

You mix up your shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal law (10 commandments) *EXODUS 20:1-17 that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If we KNOWINGLY break it just like any one of God’s 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. There is not one scripture in all of God’s WORD that says God’s 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a HOLY day. Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they reject the GIFT of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23; HEBREWS 10:26-27; HEBREWS 6:4-8. These are the ones who receive the BEASTS MARK before the second coming.

God's 10 commandments have the same role they always have and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If you have no knowledge of sin you do not know you are a sinner. If you do not know you are a sinner you have no need of a Saviour. If you have no need of a Saviour you have no salvation because you are still in your sins.

You cannot separate God's LAW from the Gospel. We are not saved by it, but it is the very mirror *JAMES 1:23 we must look into to see our need of Christ which leads us to the cross of Christ that we might be forgiven by Faith to be free to walk in God's Spirit *GALATIANS 3:22-25; GALATIANS 5:16.

If you are still breaking any of God's Commandments you need to be Born again to walk in God's Spirit *JOHN 3:3-7; 1 JOHN 3:3-10. JESUS saves us from sin not to continue in sin *JOHN 8:31-36; 1 JOHN 3:4; 1 JOHN 2:3-4.

Hope this helps.

1stcenturylady · Dec 18, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
We are under the NEW COVENANT now not the OLD COVENANT *HEBREWS 8:7-12. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT pointed to?

You mix up your shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal law (10 commandments) *EXODUS 20:1-17 that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If we KNOWINGLY break it just like any one of God’s 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. There is not one scripture in all of God’s WORD that says God’s 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a HOLY day. Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they reject the GIFT of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23; HEBREWS 10:26-27; HEBREWS 6:4-8. These are the ones who receive the BEASTS MARK before the second coming.

God's 10 commandments have the same role they always have and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If you have no knowledge of sin you do not know you are a sinner. If you do not know you are a sinner you have no need of a Saviour. If you have no need of a Saviour you have no salvation because you are still in your sins.

You cannot separate God's LAW from the Gospel. We are not saved by it, but it is the very mirror *JAMES 1:23 we must look into to see our need of Christ which leads is to the cross of Christ that we might be forgiven by Faith to walk in God's Spirit *GALATIONS 3:22-25; GALATIONS 5:16.

If you are still breaking any of God's Commandments you need to be Born again to walk in God's Spirit *JOHN 3:3-7; 1 JOHN 3:3-10. JESUS saves us from sin not to continue in sin *JOHN 8:31-36; 1 JOHN 3:4; 1 JOHN 2:3-4.

Hope this helps.

The Old Covenant was the Ten Commandments. We are not under the Old Covenant, therefore...

You do the math.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
The Old Covenant was the Ten Commandments. We are not under the Old Covenant, therefore... You do the math.

Like I said your only telling half the story. We are under the NEW COVENANT now not the OLD COVENANT *HEBREWS 8:7-12. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT pointed to? You mix up your shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal law (10 commandments) *EXODUS 20:1-17 that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

If we KNOWINGLY break God's 4th Commandment just like any one of God’s 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. There is not one scripture in all of God’s WORD that says God’s 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a HOLY day. Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they reject the GIFT of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23; HEBREWS 10:26-27; HEBREWS 6:4-8. These are the ones who receive the BEASTS MARK before the second coming.

Your error is in thinking that only God's 10 Commandments is the OLD COVENANT when God's WORD teaches that it is only a part of the OLD COVENANT and also a part of the NEW COVENANT.

You mix up the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT that pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 (the other part of the Old COVENANT) with God's eternal law (10 Commandments) that give us the knowledge of sin in both the OLD and NEW COVENANTS that lead us to Christ.

Hope this helps

1stcenturylady · Dec 18, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
Like I said your only telling half the story. We are under the NEW COVENANT now not the OLD COVENANT *HEBREWS 8:7-12. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT pointed to? You mix up your shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal law (10 commandments) *EXODUS 20:1-17 that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

If we KNOWINGLY break God's 4th Commandment just like any one of God’s 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. There is not one scripture in all of God’s WORD that says God’s 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a HOLY day. Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they reject the GIFT of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23; HEBREWS 10:26-27; HEBREWS 6:4-8. These are the ones who receive the BEASTS MARK before the second coming.

Your error is in thinking that only God's 10 Commandments is the OLD COVENANT when God's WORD teaches that it is only a part of the OLD COVENANT and also a part of the NEW COVENANT.

You mix up the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT that pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 (the other part of the Old COVENANT) with God's eternal law (10 Commandments) that give us the knowledge of sin in both the OLD and NEW COVENANTS that lead us to Christ.

Hope this helps

Oh but I do understand what the Old Covenant was. I also know what the Mosaic laws were - the ceremonial laws. We are under neither.

You confuse the Ten Commandments with the Eternal Law of God. They are not one and the same. The Ten Commandments is merely based on the Eternal Law of God and was THE COVENANT we are no longer under. The eternal law of God is about love. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself.

The Ten Commandments was known as the ministry of death. The law of the Spirit has replaced it.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
Oh but I do understand what the Old Covenant was. I also know what the Mosaic laws were - the ceremonial laws. We are under neither.

Your post has no truth in it.

If you knew what the OLD COVENANT was you would not be trying to tell half the story and claim that only God's eternal law (the 10 commandments) are the OLD COVENANT. Just by seeing the 10 commandments repeated all through the NEW COVENANT should show you this interpretation of the OLD COVENANT is not a correct one.

We are not saved by the 10 commandments they only give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If we KNOWINGLY break it just like any one of God’s 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11.

God's 10 commandments have the same role they always have and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If you have no knowledge of sin you do not know you are a sinner. If you do not know you are a sinner you have no need of a Saviour. If you have no need of a Saviour you have no salvation because you are still in your sins.

You cannot separate God's LAW from the Gospel. We are not saved by it, but it is the very mirror *JAMES 1:23 we must look into to see our need of Christ which leads us to the cross of Christ that we might be forgiven by Faith to be free to walk in God's Spirit *GALATIANS 3:22-25; GALATIANS 5:16.

You error in understanding the OLD COVENANT is that you mix up the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 that where also a part of the OLD COVENANT that pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal law (10 Commandments) that give us the knowledge of sin in both the OLD and NEW COVENANTS that lead us to JESUS that we might be forgiven by faith.

If your view the Chrsitian is free to lie, steal commit adultery and murder. You do not believe that do you sister? The GOOD NEWS of the Gospel is that JESUS saves us from sin (breaking God's Commandments *1 JOHN 3:4; JAMES 2:10-11) not to continue in sin *JOHN 8:31-36

Hope this helps

1stcenturylady · Dec 18, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
Your post has no truth in it.

If you knew what the OLD COVENANT was you would not be trying to tell half the story and claim that only God's eternal law (the 10 commandments) are the OLD COVENANT. Just by seeing the 10 commandments repeated all through the NEW COVENANT should show you this interpretation of the OLD COVENANT is not a correct one.

We are not saved by the 10 commandments they only give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If we KNOWINGLY break it just like any one of God’s 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11.

God's 10 commandments have the same role they always have and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If you have no knowledge of sin you do not know you are a sinner. If you do not know you are a sinner you have no need of a Saviour. If you have no need of a Saviour you have no salvation because you are still in your sins.

You cannot separate God's LAW from the Gospel. We are not saved by it, but it is the very mirror *JAMES 1:23 we must look into to see our need of Christ which leads us to the cross of Christ that we might be forgiven by Faith to be free to walk in God's Spirit *GALATIANS 3:22-25; GALATIANS 5:16.

You error in understanding the OLD COVENANT is that you mix up the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 that where also a part of the OLD COVENANT that pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal law (10 Commandments) that give us the knowledge of sin in both the OLD and NEW COVENANTS that lead us to JESUS that we might be forgiven by faith.

If your view the Chrsitian is free to lie, steal commit adultery and murder. You do not believe that do you sister? The GOOD NEWS of the Gospel is that JESUS saves us from sin (breaking God's Commandments *1 JOHN 3:4; JAMES 2:10-11) not to continue in sin *JOHN 8:31-36

Hope this helps

Unfortunately you do not understand how the law of the Spirit makes us free from the law of sin and death - the Ten Commandments. Until then, your only focus will be on the obsolete Ten Commandments, and its SIGN.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
You confuse the Ten Commandments with the Eternal Law of God. They are not one and the same. The Ten Commandments is merely based on the Eternal Law of God and was THE COVENANT we are no longer under. The eternal law of God is about love. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself.

Not at all. Your claims here have been proven false in the previous posts with supporting scriptures showing why you are in error in relation to your understanding of the OLD COVENANT.

Now in this post your claiming that LOVE is separate from the fruit of OBEDIENCE to God's 10 commandments. Let's examine your claims here and bring it to the light of God's WORD...

Jesus says in MATTHEW 22...

MATTHEW 22:36-40
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37], Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38], This is the first and great commandment.
[39], And the second is like to it, You shall love your neighbour as yourself.
[40], ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

NOTE: Jesus when asked this question from the Lawyer is quoting from Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18. Finishes by saying that on the two great commandments of LOVE hang all the law and the prophets.

What does v40 mean?

LUKE 10:25-28
[25], And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tested him, saying, Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
[26], He said unto him, what is written in the law? how read you?
[27], And he [the Lawyer] answering said, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbour as yourself.
[28], And he said unto him, you have answered right: this do, and you shall live.

NOTE: The lawyer knew what it means to love God and love his neighbore. How? Notice the question that the lawyer starts os by asking Jesus; "WHAT SHALL I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?". Now notice that the very same question is asked again and look how Jesus answers...

MATTHEW 19:16-19
[16], And, behold, one came and said to him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
[17], And he said to him, Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
[18], He said to him, Which? Jesus said, YOU SHALL DO NO MURDER, YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT LIE, [19], HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER; and YOU SHALL LOVR E YOUR NEIGHBORE AS YOURSELF.

NOTE: Notice in that the question from the rich young ruler is the very same question as asked by the lawyer "WHAT SHALL I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?" but both were answered by Jesus in a different way. When the Lawer asked the question he answered his own question by saying LOVE to GOD and LOVE to his neighbor (from Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18). Jesus said he answered correctly. When the rich yound ruler asked the same question Jesus answered by saying keep the 10 Commandments and starts out quoting them as his duty of LOVE to his neighbor.

Is this a contradiction of scripture? In no way the answer has already been given in MATTHEW 22:36-40. ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS (LOVE TO GOD and LOVE TO MAN) HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

When we LOVE GOD and our NEIGHBOUR it is expressed through our actions.

If we LOVE our neighbor...
* We will honor our parents,
* We will not kill them
* We will not commit adultery with thier spouse
* We will not steal from them
* We will not lie to them
* We will not covet what they own.

If we LOVE our God...
* We will not have other Gods
* We will not make idols and worship them
* We will not take his name [follow] him in vain
* We will remember his Sabbath and keep it holy.

ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS [OF LOVE] HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

PAUL understood what JESUS was talking about...

ROMANS 13:8-10
[8], Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law. [9], For this, YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT KILL, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, YOU SHALL NOT COVET; AND IF THERE BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT IT IS SUMMED UP IN THIS SAYING; YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORE AS YOURSELF. [10], Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore, love is the fulfilling [DOING] of the law.

Notice what PAUL says here? LOVE is fulfilling [doing] God's Commandments. God's Commandments or duty towards your neighbor is summed up as you shall LOVE your neighbor as yourself v9. [On these two commandments hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets Matthew 22:40].

PAUL agrees with Jesus that if you LOVE you will fulfill God's LAW. What about JAMES?

JAMES 2:8-12
[8] If you fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORE AS YOURSELF, you do well: [9], But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin, and are convicted of the law as transgressors. [10], For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. [11], For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if you commit no adultery, yet you kill, you are become a transgressor of the law. [12], So speak, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James is using the second great commandment of LOVE which hangs all the commandments of our duty of love to our neighbour and quotes the commandments showing our duty towards our neighbor. This is why Jesus says “On these two commandments hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets” Matthew 22:40. and again..

JOHN 14:15 [15], IF YOU LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.

You cannot separate LOVE from God’s LAW. Love is the FULFILLING of it and is demonstrated by OBEDIENCE to Gods’ LAW as our duty of LOVE to God and man. [“On these two commandments [of LOVE] hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets]

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CONCLUSION: It is very clear that JESUS, PAUL and JAMES are all in agreement that the two GREAT COMMANDMENTS of LOVE that JESUS quoted from Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18 were used and known in the OLD Testament scripture to sum up our duty of LOVE to God and man in the 10 Commandments.... God's LAW (Ten commandments) is not separated from LOVE it demonstrates it. You cannot have LOVE without fulfilling God's Ten Commandments. [On these two Commandments of LOVE hang all the LAW and the prophets].

Can you see your error here sister?

Hope this helps.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
Unfortunately you do not understand how the law of the Spirit makes us free from the law of sin and death - the Ten Commandments. Until then, your only focus will be on the obsolete Ten Commandments, and its SIGN.

Sorry sister you share your own words which are not God's WORD. You have been provided God's WORD showing your in error. These are God's WORD's not mine your argument is with God not me. Salvation is to be free from Sin not to continue in sin. If you are teaching that the 10 commandments are obsolete you have not knowledge of sin. God's WORD does not teach this in the NEW COVENANT. God's 10 commandments have the same role they always have and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If you have no knowledge of sin you do not know you are a sinner. If you do not know you are a sinner you have no need of a Saviour. If you have no need of a Saviour you have no salvation because you are still in your sins. You may need to revisit the scriptures. This is only posted in love as a help to you.

May God help you as you seek him through his Word.

1stcenturylady · Dec 18, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
Not at all. Your clams here have been proven false in the previous posts with supporting scriptures showing why you are in error.

Now in this post your claiming that LOVE is separate from the fruit of OBEDIENCE to God's 10 commandments. Let's examine your claims here and bring it to the light of God's WORD...

Jesus says in MATTHEW 22...

MATTHEW 22:36-40
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37], Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38], This is the first and great commandment.
[39], And the second is like to it, You shall love your neighbour as yourself.
[40], ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

NOTE: Jesus when asked this question from the Lawyer is quoting from Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18. Finishes by saying that on the two great commandments of LOVE hang all the law and the prophets.

What does v40 mean?

LUKE 10:25-28
[25], And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tested him, saying, Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
[26], He said unto him, what is written in the law? how read you?
[27], And he [the Lawyer] answering said, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbour as yourself.
[28], And he said unto him, you have answered right: this do, and you shall live.

NOTE: The lawyer knew what it means to love God and love his neighbore. How? Notice the question that the lawyer starts os by asking Jesus; "WHAT SHALL I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?". Now notice that the very same question is asked again and look how Jesus answers...

MATTHEW 19:16-19
[16], And, behold, one came and said to him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
[17], And he said to him, Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
[18], He said to him, Which? Jesus said, YOU SHALL DO NO MURDER, YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT LIE, [19], HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER; and you shall love your neighbour as yourself.
Honor your father and your mother: and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

NOTE: Notice in that the question from the rich young ruler is the very same question as asked by the lawyer "WHAT SHALL I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?" but both were answered by Jesus in a different way. When the Lawer asked the question he answered his own question by saying LOVE to GOD and LOVE to his neighbor (from Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18). Jesus said he answered correctly. When the rich yound ruler asked the same question Jesus answered by saying keep the 10 Commandments and starts out quoting them as his duty of LOVE to his neighbor.

Is this a contradiction of scripture? In no way the answer has already been given in MATTHEW 22:36-40. ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS (LOVE TO GOD and LOVE TO MAN) HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

When we LOVE GOD and our NEIGHBOUR it is expressed through our actions.

If we LOVE our neighbor...
* We will honor our parents,
* We will not kill them
* We will not commit adultery with thier spouse
* We will not steal from them
* We will not lie to them
* We will not covet what they own.

If we LOVE our God...
* We will not have other Gods
* We will not make idols and worship them
* We will not take his name [follow] him in vain
* We will remember his Sabbath and keep it holy.

ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS [OF LOVE] HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

PAUL understood what JESUS was talking about...

ROMANS 13:8-10
[8], Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law. [9], For this, YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT KILL, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, YOU SHALL NOT COVET; AND IF THERE BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT IT IS SUMMED UP IN THIS SAYING; YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORE AS YOURSELF. [10], Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore, love is the fulfilling [DOING] of the law.

Notice what PAUL says here? LOVE is fulfilling [doing] God's Commandments. God's Commandments or duty towards your neighbor is summed up as you shall LOVE your neighbor as yourself v9. [On these two commandments hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets Matthew 22:40].

PAUL agrees with Jesus that if you LOVE you will fulfill God's LAW. What about JAMES?

JAMES 2:8-12
[8] If you fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORE AS YOURSELF, you do well: [9], But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin, and are convicted of the law as transgressors. [10], For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. [11], For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if you commit no adultery, yet you kill, you are become a transgressor of the law. [12], So speak, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James is using the second great commandment of LOVE which hangs all the commandments of our duty of love to our neighbour and quotes the commandments showing our duty towards our neighbor. This is why Jesus says “On these two commandments hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets” Matthew 22:40. and again..

JOHN 14:15 [15], IF YOU LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.

You cannot separate LOVE from God’s LAW. Love is the FULFILLING of it and is demonstrated by OBEDIENCE to Gods’ LAW as our duty of LOVE to God and man. [“On these two commandments [of LOVE] hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets]

...................

CONCLUSION: It is very clear that JESUS, PAUL and JAMES are all in agreement that the two GREAT COMMANDMENTS of LOVE that JESUS quoted from Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18 were used and known in the OLD Testament scripture to sum up our duty of LOVE to God and man in the 10 Commandments.... God's LAW (Ten commandments) is not separated from LOVE it demonstrates it. You cannot have LOVE without fulfilling God's Ten Commandments. [On these two Commandments of LOVE hang all the LAW and the prophets].

Can you see your error here sister?

Hope this helps.

You have not shown why we are no longer under the Old Covenant, the Ten Commandments. You believe we are.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
You have not shown why we are no longer under the Old Covenant, the Ten Commandments. You believe we are.

Well that is not true. Why would I need to show you we are no longer under the OLD COVENANT when we are under the NEW COVENANT? What has been provided in the previous posts to you are the scriptures that show you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is as you only quate a part of the OLD COVENANT. This has effected your understanding of what the NEW COVENANT is and what has been fulfilled and what has not been fulfilled.

If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT pointed to? You mix up the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal law that give us the KNOELDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

Happy to provide more scriptures on what makes up the OLD COVENANT and how they point to the NEW COVENANT if you like. Just let me know? You seem a little confused here.

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.

1stcenturylady · Dec 18, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
Well that is not true. Why would I need to show you we are no longer under the OLD COVENANT when we are under the NEW COVENANT? What has been provided in the previous posts are the scriptures that you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is.

If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT pointed to? You mix up the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal law that give us the KNOELDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

Happy to provide more scriptures on what makes up the OLD COVENANT and how they point to the NEW COVENANT if you like. Just let me know? You seem a little confused here.

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.

You made the statement that the Ten Commandments IS the eternal law of God. It isn't, merely BASED on them. That statement is the foundation of your error. The Ten Commandments included a sign of the covenant, that ended when the covenant ended. You believe breaking the sign of the old covenant is sin and the foundation of your denomination's message.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
You made the statement that the Ten Commandments IS the eternal law of God. It isn't, merely BASED on them. That statement is the foundation of your error. The Ten Commandments included a sign of the covenant, that ended when the covenant ended. You believe breaking the sign of the old covenant is sin.

Was it my statement that God's 10 Commandments are his eternal law or is it God's WORD that says God's 10 commandments are eternal?

ARE GODS TEN COMMANDMENTS FOREVER?

The Law of God (10 commandments) which includes the 4th commandment is the work of God (Exodus 32:16) whatsoever God does is forever nothing can be added to it or taken away (Ecclesiastes 3:14). God's Law is perfect converting the soul (Psalms 19:7). It is the very standard of the Old and New Covenants (Exodus 20:1-17, Hebrews 8:10-12).

God's Law was spoken by God himself to His people (Exodus 20:1-22). Jesus says Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away (Matthew 25:35). Gods Law is still in force today (Psalms 111:7-8, Revelation 12:17, 14:12, 22:14, 1 John 3:5-8, 1 John 2:3-4 etc.). The Law of God reveals sin to us so we can see ourselves as we truly are sinners in need of a Saviour (Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4).

It is the great standard of the judgement (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, James 2:10-12, 1 John 3:4, Acts 17:31). God's Law is our teacher revealing sin and the character of God and brings us to Christ at the foot of the cross that we might be saved by faith by Him who loves us and washed us in His own blood (Galatians 3:24; Revelation 1:5). Jesus came not to abolish the law, but to fulfil it (Matthew 5:17-28). The law is the embodiment of truth that instructs (Romans 2:18-19). It is "holy" and "spiritual, " making sin known to us by defining it; therefore, Paul delights in it ( Romans 7:7-14 Romans 7:22). The law is good if used properly (1 Tim 1:8), and is not opposed to the promises of God (Galatians 3:21). Faith does not make the law void, but the Christian establishes the law (Romans 3:31), fulfilling its requirements by walking according to the Spirit (Romans 8:4) through love (Romans 13:10).

You cannot know the power of God or the Gospel of Grace without the 10 commandments. If there is NO LAW then you do not know what SIN is (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4). If you do not know what SIN is you have NO need of a Savior. If you have NO need of a Savior you have NO Salvation. If you have NO Salvation you are LOST because it is written.

As shown in the previous posts your error is that you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is. If you do not know what made up the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand the NEW COVENANT that the OLD COVENANT points to? Sent only in love sister.

1 JOHN 2:3-4 [3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Sorry 1stcenturylady, God's Word disagrees with you. All I am hearing from you is your words over God's WORD so your argument is with God not me. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God. JESUS says those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God *ROMANS 3:4; ACTS 5:29; MATTHEW 15:3-9.

May God help you as you seek him through his Word.

LoveGodsWord · Dec 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
You believe breaking the sign of the old covenant is sin and the foundation of your denomination's message.

No not at all. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT was as shown in the previous posts to you, how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT pointed to? It is God's WORD not mine that says that if we break any one of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; ROMANS 7:7; ROMANS 3:19-20. Sin will keep all those who KNOWINGLY continue to practice it out of God's KINGDOM because they reject the gift of God's dear son *HEBREWS 10:26-27; ROMANS 6:23, but will be the guide to all those who have ears to hear to lead us to Christ that we might be forgiven by faith to be free to walk in His Spirit to LOVE *GALATIANS 3:22-25; 5:16. This is the NEW COVENANT promise to all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD.

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