End Times Anti-Christ Theory

Bible2+ said:

Note that Revelation 13:13-14a will not be a common occurrence, but one of the "miracles" by which the future Antichrist's False Prophet will deceive the world into worshipping Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) and the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") and the Antichrist's speaking image (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9).



Regarding the "abomination of desolation", Daniel 11:31 was typically fulfilled by the abomination of desolation in 1 Maccabees 1:54, which occurred in the holy place (the inner sanctum) of the second Jewish temple in Jerusalem in the time of Antiochus IV Epiphanes. But per Jesus Christ's statement in Matthew 24:15, the Church will see the abomination of desolation in Daniel 11:31 fulfilled (antitypically) in the future when the Church will see the abomination of desolation stand in the holy place (of a future, third Jewish temple in Jerusalem). This future abomination of desolation could be a standing, android image of the Antichrist (Revelation 13:15) which his followers ("they") will put in the holy place of the temple (Daniel 11:31) to be worshipped (Revelation 13:15), after they have stopped the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices which the ultra-Orthodox Jews will have restarted in front of the temple (Daniel 11:31). This image will pollute the holy place of the temple (Daniel 11:31).

The Antichrist will then fulfill Daniel 11:36 and 2 Thessalonians 2:4 by sitting himself (at least one time) in the temple and proclaiming himself God. By the power of Satan (the dragon, Revelation 12:9), the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") will then rule and be worshipped by all of the nations of the earth for 3.5 literal years (Revelation 13:4-18), and will physically overcome Biblical Christians (not in hiding) in every nation (Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6, Matthew 24:9-13).

Also, from the day on which (antitypically) "the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be 1,290 days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1,335 days" (Daniel 12:11-12, Revelation 16:15). Also, because the future Antichrist will fulfill Daniel 11:31 antitypically (Matthew 24:15), and will fulfill Daniel 11:36 for the first and only time (2 Thessalonians 2:4), he will also fulfill all of Daniel 11:21-45 (the first part antitypically, and the rest for the first and only time) when he arises on the world stage. For that passage refers to the career of the same man. And since the Antichrist will fulfill all of Daniel 11:21-45 when he arises on the world stage, then just preceding his arising on the world stage, Daniel 11:13-19 could be fulfilled antitypically by a future, Iraqi Baathist General (the Antichrist's precursor) who will defeat and occupy Israel and Egypt with a huge Iraqi Army (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17 the original Hebrewword translated as "daughter" is "bath").

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So you believe an android will cause the desolation of jerusalem.
Tell us when will the millitary have such a weapon as this?
When do youbelieve the android which kills people and makes jerualem desolate will be invented and put into combat for jerusalems desolation?

ewq1938 said in post #20:

It also means "instead of" Christ as in a false replacement.

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Note that "anti"-Christ does not have to mean that, but can simply mean "against"-Christ, just as someone who is "anti"-Trump is against him, not pretending to be him.

Also, note that nothing in the Bible ever says or requires that the future man commonly called the Antichrist will ever claim to be Christ.

shilohsfoal said in post #21:

So you believe an android will cause the desolation of jerusalem.

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No, but one made in the image of the future Antichrist and placed within the future, third Jewish temple in Jerusalem to be worshipped would cause the spiritual desolation of that temple.

That is, Revelation 11:1-2, Matthew 24:15, Daniel 11:31,36, and 2 Thessalonians 2:4 require that there will be a third Jewish temple in the earthly Jerusalem during the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24. This third temple will coexist with the Church like the second temple did (Luke 24:53, Acts 2:46, Acts 22:17) and like the temple building in heaven does (Revelation 11:19). The third temple could be built on Jerusalem's Temple Mount by the ultra-Orthodox Jews after they (or great earthquakes) clear the site by destroying the Muslim Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque. Shortly after they build the temple, the future Antichrist could attack and defeat them, and a false Messiah leading them (Daniel 11:22).

Then the Antichrist could "cut" a peace treaty with them and their false "Messiah" (Daniel 9:26a, Daniel 11:23a), permitting them to keep the temple and to continue to (mistakenly) perform the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices in front of it for at least seven years (Daniel 9:27a), so long as they give up the outer court of the temple (Revelation 11:2a) to the Muslims so that the Muslims can rebuild the Al Aqsa Mosque on the southern end of the Temple Mount and resume worship there. The ultra-Orthodox Jews could grudgingly agree to this, if the only other option is for them to lose the temple entirely. They could then build a high wall between the temple and the mosque to keep the temple from being "defiled".

But then, only some 3.5 years after making the peace treaty, the Antichrist will break the treaty, attack the temple, stop the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices, place the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the Antichrist) in the holy place (the inner sanctum) of the temple (Daniel 9:27b, Daniel 11:31, Matthew 24:15), and then sit himself (at least one time) in the temple and proclaim himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). Thus could begin the Antichrist's literal, 3.5-year Luciferian (Satanic) worldwide reign of terror (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9; 2 Thessalonians 2:9).

shilohsfoal said in post #21:

So you believe an android will cause the desolation of jerusalem.

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Jerusalem will not be destroyed until the Second Coming. For at the very end of the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, the Antichrist (Daniel 11:45) and the world's armies will pillage Jerusalem, right before Jesus Christ's Second Coming (Zechariah 14:2-21). And at the Second Coming, there will be tremendous earth changes in the vicinity of Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:4-5). These events could result in all of Jerusalem's structures, including the third temple and the Wailing Wall (also called the Western Wall), being broken down so that not one stone will be left upon another (Luke 19:44, Matthew 24:2). Then the returned Jesus (Zechariah 14:4, Acts 1:11-12) will rebuild Jerusalem and make it the capital of the world (Zechariah 14:8-19, Micah 4:1-4). He will also build a fourth temple there (Zechariah 14:20-21, Zechariah 6:12-13). It will serve a similar function for the Church during the future Millennium (of Revelation 20:4-6) as the second temple served for the Church in the first century AD (Luke 24:53, Acts 2:46, Acts 22:17) and as the temple building in heaven (Revelation 11:19) serves for those in heaven (Revelation 7:15).

shilohsfoal said in post #21:

So you believe an android will cause the desolation of jerusalem.
Tell us when will the millitary have such a weapon as this?

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Note that nothing requires that the image of the future Antichrist, which could be an android, will be a military weapon.

shilohsfoal said in post #21:

When do youbelieve the android which kills people and makes jerualem desolate will be invented and put into combat for jerusalems desolation?

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Note that the android image would not have to kill people directly. Instead, the Antichrist and his False Prophet could have their soldiers behead people with guillotines who will not worship the image (Revelation 20:4).

ewq1938 said in post #24:

Well, the AC will claim to be God according to Paul, and Christ is God plus Christ himself spoke of false Christ's so when we add all of that together we do have someone falsely claiming to be Christ, God the Son.

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Note that someone can claim to be God without claiming to be Christ. For example, someone could claim to be God the Father or God the Holy Spirit. Also, the future Antichrist will utterly revile YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36), so he won't be claiming to be any person of the Trinity (which is YHWH).

Also, note that not all believers in Christ believe that He is God. For example, non-Christian Jews say that their Messiah/Christ, who they are still waiting to come, is not God. So future false Christs could claim to be Christ without claiming to be God.

For example, in Daniel 9:26 the original Hebrew word (karath: H3772) translated as "cut off" can refer to when a peace treaty/covenant is "made" (Genesis 21:27). The first century AD fulfillment of Daniel 9:26a was at the Crucifixion, when the true Messiah, Jesus, made the New Covenant (Matthew 26:28, Hebrews 9:15-17). But a future fulfillment of Daniel 9:26a will be when the Antichrist makes a peace treaty, which will be a fulfillment of the covenant in Daniel 9:27 and the league in Daniel 11:23, with a future, ultra-Orthodox Jewish false "Messiah" in Jerusalem, after he and his followers are militarily defeated by the Antichrist (Daniel 11:22-23). So this future fulfillment of Daniel 9:26a can refer to this false Messiah being "cut off" in the sense of being "covenanted", peace-treatied.

This treaty will allow this false "Messiah" and his followers to keep a third Jewish temple which they will have built on Jerusalem's Temple Mount (after they and/or great earthquakes have destroyed the Muslim structures there), and to (mistakenly) continue to perform the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices in front of the temple for at least seven years (Daniel 9:27a), so long as they give up the outer court of the temple (Revelation 11:2a) to the Muslims so that they can rebuild the (by that time destroyed) Al Aqsa Mosque on the southern end of the Temple Mount and resume worship there. After "cutting" this peace treaty (Daniel 9:26a), the future Antichrist could appear before the "many" (Daniel 9:27) nations represented at the U.N. General Assembly, and "confirm" (Daniel 9:27) that for at least seven years he will keep this treaty with the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem, using this as purported proof to the world that he is (in his words) "a man of peace, and no Hitler".

In Daniel 9:27, "he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" refers to when, only some 3.5 years after making the peace treaty of Daniel 9:26a,27a and Daniel 11:23a, the future Antichrist will break the treaty, attack the third temple, stop the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices, place the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the Antichrist) in the holy place (the inner sanctum) of the temple (Daniel 9:27b, Daniel 11:31, Matthew 24:15), and then sit himself (at least one time) in the temple and proclaim himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). Thus could begin the Antichrist's literal, 3.5-year Luciferian (Satanic) worldwide reign of terror (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9; 2 Thessalonians 2:9).

JohnB445 said:

In the end times there will be a counterfeit Trinity because Satan tries to counterfeit God. There will be 3 persons, The Anti-Christ, Satan, and the Spirit of the Anti-Christ. (The False Prophet, The Beast, and the Dragon). All will be claiming to be God, and claiming to be the Trinity of God.

The Anti-Christ is going to be a deceiver, he isn't going to yell and point at himself claiming to be the anti-christ. The Beast isn't going to end up being a red devil with horns. Satan isn't that obvious. He masquerades as an angel of light. He used to be the light bearer, the one in charge in worship before he was kicked out of heaven.

There is the Son of God, who is Jesus Christ.

And there is the Son of Perdition, who is the false prophet in the end times that will be revealed. Or he is something else.

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Christ mentions false christs and false prophets in the plural.

Bible2+ said:

Note that someone can claim to be God without claiming to be Christ. For example, someone could claim to be God the Father or God the Holy Spirit. Also, the future Antichrist will utterly revile YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36), so he won't be claiming to be any person of the Trinity (which is YHWH).

Also, note that not all believers in Christ believe that He is God. For example, non-Christian Jews say that their Messiah/Christ, who they are still waiting to come, is not God. So future false Christs could claim to be Christ without claiming to be God.

For example, in Daniel 9:26 the original Hebrew word (karath: H3772) translated as "cut off" can refer to when a peace treaty/covenant is "made" (Genesis 21:27). The first century AD fulfillment of Daniel 9:26a was at the Crucifixion, when the true Messiah, Jesus, made the New Covenant (Matthew 26:28, Hebrews 9:15-17). But a future fulfillment of Daniel 9:26a will be when the Antichrist makes a peace treaty, which will be a fulfillment of the covenant in Daniel 9:27 and the league in Daniel 11:23, with a future, ultra-Orthodox Jewish false "Messiah" in Jerusalem, after he and his followers are militarily defeated by the Antichrist (Daniel 11:22-23). So this future fulfillment of Daniel 9:26a can refer to this false Messiah being "cut off" in the sense of being "covenanted", peace-treatied.

This treaty will allow this false "Messiah" and his followers to keep a third Jewish temple which they will have built on Jerusalem's Temple Mount (after they and/or great earthquakes have destroyed the Muslim structures there), and to (mistakenly) continue to perform the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices in front of the temple for at least seven years (Daniel 9:27a), so long as they give up the outer court of the temple (Revelation 11:2a) to the Muslims so that they can rebuild the (by that time destroyed) Al Aqsa Mosque on the southern end of the Temple Mount and resume worship there. After "cutting" this peace treaty (Daniel 9:26a), the future Antichrist could appear before the "many" (Daniel 9:27) nations represented at the U.N. General Assembly, and "confirm" (Daniel 9:27) that for at least seven years he will keep this treaty with the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem, using this as purported proof to the world that he is (in his words) "a man of peace, and no Hitler".

In Daniel 9:27, "he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" refers to when, only some 3.5 years after making the peace treaty of Daniel 9:26a,27a and Daniel 11:23a, the future Antichrist will break the treaty, attack the third temple, stop the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices, place the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the Antichrist) in the holy place (the inner sanctum) of the temple (Daniel 9:27b, Daniel 11:31, Matthew 24:15), and then sit himself (at least one time) in the temple and proclaim himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). Thus could begin the Antichrist's literal, 3.5-year Luciferian (Satanic) worldwide reign of terror (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9; 2 Thessalonians 2:9).

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Which Hebrew word in Daniel 9:24-27 means "Antichrist"?

ewq1938 said:

The term Antichrist is only found a handful of times in 1 and 2nd John. Do you think this same person is not mentioned in other parts of the bible by different names?

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What is that name in Daniel 9:24-27?

ewq1938 said:

He is called "the prince" in those verses. Also, prince in Hebrew does not mean the son of a King but means a ruler or commander.

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There is only one individual identified as a prince in Daniel 9:24-27.

It is Messiah.

ewq1938 said:

He is one of two there. "the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate," is the bad prince also known as the abomination of desolation which is another name of the AC.

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The grammatical antecedent of "he" in verse 27 is the "prince" in verse 26.

The grammatical antecedent of the "prince" in verse 26 is "Messiah the Prince" in verse 25.

ewq1938 said:

So you are saying both Jesus and the AC are working to spread abominations that cause desolation. Does that make any sense?

Is it not true that a bad prince/ruler comes first and causes abominations that cause desolation and then a good prince/ruler comes to end the other's reign?

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The Roman armies (people of the prince) were Messiah's agents of judgment and destruction who were the abomination bringing desolation.

ewq1938 said:

So the Abomination of desolation is actually Jesus Christ?

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The Roman armies (people of the prince) were Messiah's agents of judgment and destruction who were the abomination bringing desolation.

ewq1938 said:

That still leaves Jesus as the AoD. My position separates Jesus from the AoD which is actually what is found in the scriptures.

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Not sure how Jesus can be the AoD if the Roman armies were the AoD.

But we need to return to the original question: What Hebrew word in Daniel 9:24-27 means "antichrist"?

Here is the Hebrew word and description for "prince" in Daniel 9:25:

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nā·ḡîḏ,
נָגִ֔יד
the Prince
N ms

The identical word ("nagid") is used in Daniel 9:26.

The description includes no reference, explicit or implicit, to "antichrist".