Is Donald asking for the investigation of the media and Saturday Night Live?

GoldenBoy89 · Dec 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
If someone you rely on to give you accurate information gives you false information for their own gain, are they your friend?

Not sure I'd call them an "enemy" but I see your point.

If I'm well aware of my 'friends' practices and know that he's actually working in the best interest of his business then it would be my own fault if my expectations are set too high.

That still doesn't make them an "enemy" in the traditional and commonly understood meaning of the word.

Aldebaran · Dec 17, 2018

wing2000 said:
I tend to read Trump's words in transcripts (as painful as that is) after the fact.

I'm amazed at how people can be so obsessed with everything he says.

wing2000 · Dec 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
I'm amazed at how people can be so obsessed with everything he says.

Words matter (or at least they used to).

Aldebaran · Dec 17, 2018

GoldenBoy89 said:
Not sure I'd call them an "enemy" but I see your point.

If I'm well aware of my 'friends' practices and know that he's actually working in the best interest of his business then it would be my own fault if my expectations are set too high.

That still doesn't make them an "enemy" in the traditional and commonly understood meaning of the word.

When they use every opportunity to divide the people against each other along the lines of race, religion, financial status, gender or political affiliation, they are not a friend of the people in any sense of the word.

GoldenBoy89 · Dec 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
I'm amazed at how people can be so obsessed with everything he says.

I don't like when fools speak for me.

I'm amazed others don't feel the same.

Aldebaran · Dec 17, 2018

wing2000 said:
Words matter (or at least they used to).

Do you let everyone's words bother you as a result?
Sure, words matter. How you let them affect you matters even more.

Hank77 · Dec 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
I highly doubt people tune in to the news broadcasts to be told consistent lies. Do you?

I was referring to one individual.

Aldebaran · Dec 17, 2018

GoldenBoy89 said:
I don't like when fools speak for me.

Just one more reason to not see the Press as your friend. They try speaking for the people and try saying what the people want all the time.

GoldenBoy89 · Dec 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
When they use every opportunity to divide the people against each other along the lines of race, religion, financial status, gender or political affiliation, they are not a friend of the people in any sense of the word.

The media is not here to be anybody's friend. They're here to make money for themselves and their shareholders and advertisers.

And it's not like they created those divisions, nor is Trump doing anything to quell that. Indeed... How can he? He capitalized on those exact same divisions to get him where he's at now.

wing2000 · Dec 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
Do you let everyone's words bother you as a result?
Sure, words matter. How you let them affect you matters even more.

It's seems you are the one who can't take SNL's humor at Trump's expense. I'm not "bothered" by Trump...just disgusted.

Go Braves · Dec 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
Let me ask you this. If a 13 year old kid got his friends to make accusations of racism against anyone who said anything against him, do you think it's fair that people would accuse him of hiding behind his skin color as an excuse for anything that might be questionable about him? Does it even come across as hypocritical of someone who clings to MLK who spoke about being recognized for their character instead of their skin color?

Well now if a 13 yr old behaved in a way that was racist I'd have a real hard time feeling sorry for him when he had a temper tantrum about folks calling him out on his racism. I knew kids that age who believed in Donald's birther conspiracy crap, approved of it out of racism. At least when a real 13 year old acts bratty on social media about it, lies, has fits, him acting juvenile is him acting his age.

Aldebaran · Dec 17, 2018

GoldenBoy89 said:
The media is not here to be anybody's friend. They're here to make money for themselves and their shareholders and advertisers.

Then they're the friend of their shareholders and advertisers. Big businesses work that way and have been demonized for it for as long as I can remember.

GoldenBoy89 said:
And it's not like they created those divisions, nor is Trump doing anything to quell that.

Indeed... How can he? He capitalized on those exact same divisions to get him where he's at now.

You mean he spoke to the people who agreed with him. It's the same thing that those on the other side of the political spectrum do when they want the votes of those who agree with them.

Aldebaran · Dec 17, 2018

wing2000 said:
It's seems you are the one who can't take SNL's humor at Trump's expense. I'm not "bothered" by Trump...just disgusted.

Well I'm glad to hear that being disgusted doesn't bother you.

Hank77 · Dec 17, 2018

wing2000 said:
I tend to read Trump's words in transcripts (as painful as that is) after the fact.

I do too. Trying to decipher his soup sandwich sentence construct is just frustrating. At least when it's in writing the puzzle is easier to put together.

Aldebaran · Dec 17, 2018

Go Braves said:
Well now if a 13 yr old behaved in a way that was racist I'd have a real hard time feeling sorry for him when he had a temper tantrum about folks calling him out on his racism. I knew kids that age who believed in Donald's birther conspiracy crap, approved of it out of racism. At least when a real 13 year old acts bratty on social media about it, lies, has fits, him acting juvenile is him acting his age.

You could have simply answered the question rather than write up your own scenario. I'll take your goalpost moving as a Dodge.

Go Braves · Dec 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
You could have simply answered the question rather than write up your own scenario. I'll take your goalpost moving as a Dodge.

Well as I can it the issue here isn't with the goalposts you keep going around that I keep playing along with, kicking the ball into anyhow, but with the ball going over your head.

USincognito · Dec 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
I did--in the post you quoted. It was only yesterday that I posted it.

Thanks for making my point for me. I mentioned a trial in a court of law, not a kangaroo court in Congress.

Hank77 · Dec 17, 2018

GoldenBoy89 said:
The media is not here to be anybody's friend. They're here to make money for themselves and their shareholders and advertisers.

I certainly hope you are wrong about that.

USincognito · Dec 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
Maybe that's because they didn't try to hide it for that long.

You mean like Trumps tax returns?

Aldebaran · Dec 17, 2018

Go Braves said:
Well as I can it the issue here isn't with the goalposts you keep going around that I keep playing along with, kicking the ball into anyhow, but with the ball going over your head.

And now you are projecting.

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