Jerusalem is defined as the great city in
revelation 11.
This is how we go down wrong rabbit holes. There are MANY Great Cities, that should be self evident. The Major Cities of the day were described as Great Cities. We can't pigeonhole God's vocabulary.
There is only one great city mentioned in revelation.
Not so, in Revelation 16:19 we see Great Babylon....in Rev. 17:18 we see Great City in which Babylon is being spoken of in verses 3-6. Revelation is about Holy vs. unholy. So we get Jerusalem vs. Babylon as per the Great battles between Satan and God, it's like prose. God is not going to burn Jerusalem just before Jesus returns to reign from Jerusalem brother. The WHOLE WORLD (Babylon) is what burns, 1/3 of the trees and all the grasses of the WHOLE WORLD Burn, Babylon is a Metaphor for Satan's Kingdom on earth !! Babylon will fall, and Jesus will take over.
Babylon is the HEAD OF GOLD !!
I also pray and study and ask for the guidance of the Holy Spirit when studying hard passages. I don't think you're the only one that does that.
But I do know how to hear
"YOU ARE WRONG" from God....It's very important we understand how to hear that voice brother. We get tunnel vision, I was called to Prophecy and in a rut for about 20-25 years until I understood why I was in the rut. God couldn't teach me because I had all the answers I got them from other men !! So I couldn't hear the full truth, it blocked out the true voice of God from being able to teach me Prophetic uttering's, now I could hear the Gospel of Christ etc. etc. because those are always God reaching our hearts. But these deep, hidden things I seemed to be blocked on, not totally of course, but I am saying it seemed I reached a dead end, and God never stops teaching us new things. I had to deprogram myself. I once believed the Pope was probably the False Prophet also, that was something that had to be deprogrammed, there is no truth to it at all.
most people, that I am aware of, are not mind readers. So supporting scripture often helps opinions on interpretations.
I get you brother, I shoulda done the grunt work. I been feeling down with my diabetes, sorry.
RT what is the definition of a mountain?
I think I have covered this above.......God's transitioning from Kingdoms to Kings.
based on this response, I would disagree with you.
Passages have to be put together and mesh like the Rev. 16:19 scripture meshes with Vial #6. I have a knack for it brother, ever since I went with the BLANK MIND approach it seems like things are just flooding in. I can't explain it, it seems God wants clay to mold, so a blank mind is kinda like fresh clay....that is the only way I can explain it, I get things now, BOOM, BOOM BOOM.
Oh, that's how you get around all the empires that have existed in the middle east after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Just add a gap.
No, that is a fact brother. Remember, everything in the Old Testament is about Israel. The Beasts from the Sea thus oppressed Israel, many times for God's own purposes. God used them as a stick to try and correct Israel. Why do you think Ezekiel prophesies that Israel will be as Dead Men's Bones for nigh 2000 years, and then God will breathe life back into them and raise those bones back to life as a Nation in the latter times ? How can there be a BEAST OVER Israel if there is no Israel? It's God's viewpoint, not ours here. Israel were as Dead.
This is why we get the Mortal Wound of the Seven Headed Beast, one of the heads is as wounded, the Beast stops Beasting over Israel because they are as Dead Men's Bones in God's eyes. The Church Age is inserted by God, the gates of hell can't prevail against the Church. The Beast is thus dormant in the Mediterranean Sea Region as per oppressing Israel for nigh 2000 years. When Israel is REBORN, and the Church is Raptured, then and only then can the BEAST ARISE again when Jesus allows it by opening the First Seal. Then the Beast goes forth conquering and to Conquer, he comes against Jerusalem/Israel and the MANY NATIONS in the Mediterranean Sea Region all at once, reneging on his former Agreements (Covenants only mean Agreements).
There are gaps in Israel's existence in God's eyes. That is why if we take out the Church Age guess what happens !! This is so brilliant by God. The Statue fits together perfectly, the BEASTS also fit together perfectly. Israel's punishment fits perfectly, she must repent by the 70th Week, God thus inserted the Church Age and the 70th week was put off, after the Rapture of the Church the 70th week will begin, Israel will thus repent in that last 7 year period, at least 1/3 do anyway. The Church is in Heaven, marrying the Lamb (see Rev. 19) during that time, Amen.
People like me just want scriptural supports for claims, not just personal interpretations without any evidence.
Yea, I can tell, to start with I thought you might be trolling, but no one reads and answers all of these replies just to troll someone. I find a lot of atheists on certain sites who sneak in and troll, plus I am on some debate religion sites, Disqus and Quora etc. etc. So my apologies there.
the gap is a false doctrine.
It's actually not a gap theory brother, it's a fact. Why would Gabriel give Daniel THREE DIFFERENT PROPHECIES ? A 7 x 7 and 62 x 7 and a 1 x 7. It's not one prophecy, its three prophecies !! You see it as a Gap, God sees it as THREE PROPHECIES !! Jesus died and there was one week left to be fulfilled. It is about Israel however not the Church.
It's interesting that you call angels interpreting visions, false flags.
Only when men interpret what they interpreted wrongly.
I don't think you know what personal interpretation is.
I will give you one of my personal interpretation to help you understand.
I believe
Daniel 8's little horn to be Antiochus Epiphanes. Now, scripture doesn't explicitly state anywhere that the little horn of
Daniel 8 is Antiochus Epiphanes. Only based on the surrounding context, and 1 and 2 Maccabees, and how it lines up perfectly with history, do I support my belief that the little horn of
Daniel 8 is Antiochus. However, because
Daniel 8 does not explicitly state the identity of the little horn is Antiochus epiphanies, this would be a personal interpretation.
You are doing the same thing. The heads of the beast are NOT explicitly defined as Egypt, Assyria, Babylone, etc. but you believe they are based on your interpretation. this would be a personal interpretation.
There is a Holy Spirit brother, when He confirms something as true we are supposed to know it. I understand what a personal belief is, when the Spirit confirms something it is a totally different thing. Just like the Little Horn of Daniel 8, the Spirit specificaly has shown me/confirmed to me he is the End Time Anti-Christ, via history I PERSONALLY THINK Jason was the forerunner to the False Prophet, thus I think the False Prophet will likewise be a High Priest, I can't prove this, but I believe it to be so, it seems the Holy Spirit is guiding me this way, but he has not confirmed it to me yet.
The Little Horn being the coming Anti-Christ IS CONFIRMED by Scriptures in Daniel ch. 8. He comes against the Prince of princes (Jesus) who DESTROYS him WITHOUT HAND just like the ROCK in Dan. ch. 2 destroys the Statue (WITHOUT HAND), meaning Jesus SPEAKS VICTORY by the Sword of his Mouth or the Holy Spirit. The Daniel chapter 8 Little Horn also matches the Rev. 13 Beast.
The Heads of the Beast are most certainly defined brother, all one has to do is compare Rev. ch. 13 with Dan. ch. 7. God's not trying to confuse us, that's why he uses Old Testament verbiage 289 times out of the 404 verses in the book of Revelation.
NOTICE THE COMPARISONS OF VERBIAGE: I will add in some Dan. 8 verbiage that matches!
Dan. 7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the
great sea. 3 And
four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
Rev. 13:
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and
saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having
seven heads and ten horns, and upon
his horns ten crowns, and upon his
heads the name of blasphemy.
{{{ The Beasts in both instances arise from the great [mediterranean] Sea. Both speak of 10 Horns, one speaks of the Little Horn but the other doesn't, WHY ? Because one of the 7 Heads is the Little Horn, else there would be 11 Horns not 10 (ever thought of that ? Ever wondered where the missing Little Horn is ? We have to do these things). One has Seven Heads the other is called Four Beasts, in both cases they arise from the Sea.
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Dan. 7:4 The
first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings:......5 And behold another beast, a second,
like to a bear,........6 After this I beheld, and lo
another, like a leopard,....7 After this I saw in the night visions, and
behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had
great iron teeth:
and it had
ten horns. 8 I considered the horns, and, behold,
there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were
eyes like the eyes of man, and
a mouth speaking great things.
Rev. 13:2 And the
beast which I saw was like unto a
leopard, and his feet were as the
feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
mouth of a lion: and the
dragon gave him his power(Dan. 8:24 Matches this), and his seat, and great authority.
3 And
I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death (Rome, there was NO BEAST after Rome over Israel); and
his deadly wound was healed {The Anti-Christ becomes THE BEAST when he Conquers Jerusalem and MANY Nations in the Region} and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the
dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they
worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a
mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and
power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he
opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
{{{ So let's compare scriptures here, we have both Dan. 7 and Rev. 13 speaking about Beasts from a Sea and they both mention the Lion, Leopard and Bear telling us it's the same Beasts !! One has a Fourth Beast that is fierce (Rome) and the other has a Head that suffers a Mortal Wound, and we know there was NO ISRAEL to Beast over after the Jews were dispersed, and the Church turned Rome from a Beast into THE CENTER of Christendom !! So as per A BEAST Rome suffered the Mortal Wound. How do we know Rome was the Mortal Wound for sure ? The Anti-Christ by CONQUERING Jerusalem/Israel becomes THE BEAST which has not been around for nigh 2000 years, thus he is the one that HEALED THE WOUND by Beasting over Israel, remember, this is a FIGURATIVE SEVEN HEADED BEAST !! A collective of Nations/Kingdoms that Beasted over Israel.
Dan. 7 and Rev. 13 has 10 Horns, but there is no Little Horn in Rev. 13 thus he has to be one of the Seven Beast Heads !! Of course, Eureka !! The Dragon gave him his power, Daniel 8:24 says his power shall be MIGHTY but not by his own power !! In Dan. 7 this MAN/Beast has Eyes and speaks Blasphemous things against God as does the Beast in Rev. 13. We see he rules for 42 Months in Rev. 13 which is a Time, times and a half [time], as Daniel 7:25 says will happen.
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Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High,
and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a
time and times and the dividing of time.
Rev. 13:7 And it was given unto him to
make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
{{{ We see here that this end time Beast will wear out the Saints and rule for 42 Months.
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Dan. 8:23 And in the
latter time of their kingdom, when the
transgressors are come to the full, a king of
fierce countenance, and
understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24 And
his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall
destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and
he shall magnify himself in his heart, and
by peace shall destroy many: he shall also
stand up against the Prince of princes; but
he shall be broken without hand.
{{{ This Little Horn in Daniel ch. 8 is also the coming Anti-Christ/Beast. It happens in the LATTER TIME when mankind's transgressions are come full, or God's Bowls of Wrath are filled up/overflowing. He has a fierce countenance, AND understands DARK SENTENCES meaning how to solve riddles and conundrums. He gets power from Satan (Not of himself) who gives him his power and seat (Rev. 13). He will demand to be worshiped as God (Magnifies himself) and via PEACE destroys MANY [Nations] just as Dan. 9:27 and Dan. 11:40-43 says !! And lastly he fights against Jesus (Prince of princes) and is defeated without hands by the Holy Spirit.
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So we know the Beasts of Dan. 7 are the same as the ones mentioned in Rev. 13. We also see the 10 Horns but don't see the Little Horn, telling us he is one of the 7 Heads, we know this because both Daniel 7:11 and Revelation 19:20 tells us the Little Horn is a BEAST who is CAST into hell fire. The reason Jesus/John gives us the Bear/Leopard/Lion is so we know its the same Beasts, whereas Daniel saw them coming up as individual Beasts, John was shown these Beasts for the ENTITY THEY ARE, ruled by Satan (Rev. 13) and Apollyon (Rev. 17) and thus the LAST BEAST HEAD (Rev. 13) is a MAN who brings this figurative Seven Headed Beast back to life. Since we know Rev. 13 are all EARTHLY KINGS we understand all 7 had to have Conquered, Enslaved or Ruled over Israel in order to have been a Beast, thus we only have to look to Rev. 17 and see that FIVE HAD FALLEN in order to figure out who they are. Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece.........and Rome of course WAS.........And of course the coming Anti-Christ or End Time Beast is the Dan. 7, Dan. 8 Little Horn.