Dem leaders want to impeach Trump because they can't beat him in an election

Basil the Great said:

Yes, I know, but Hillary was a flawed candidate. Anyway, regardless, the President has lost significant poll ratings since he took office. Can he turn things around in time for the 2020 nominating process? We will see, but such is iffy at best.

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Lots of people the Dems could nominate could legitimately be described as flawed, and then the right would pile on top of that a bunch of allegations that aren't legitimate yet still play well (e.g. Biden as pedo). Hillary may have been flawed, but Trump was still an obviously unqualified joke even during the campaign. And while more people may have since come to that conclusion, many have also fully drank his golden koolaid.

I don't think he should win in 2020. I don't think he deserves to win. But I don't trust the Democrats to not blow it. I would be entirely unsurprised if the Republicans in 2020 look like the Dolphins this past Sunday:

Arcangl86 said:

Why is it the only people who ever talk about Democrats impeaching the President are Republicans?

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It's an effective way to maintain the persecution complex that fuels the right's propaganda.

com7fy8 said:

The Bible says 1 Timothy 2:1-4. And I think this is what you mean.

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What I got was that Donald Trump was not all-out Republican but he ran as a Republican so he could recruit the party's bloc of votes. If he had run as an independent, there would be someone more or less credible as a Republican running against him, and this would have split non-Democratic votes enough so he and the Republican candidate would have lost, I think . . . unless . . . maybe . . . a Republican like Charlie Baker ran.

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A Republican like Charlie Baker might well have split the Democratic vote more than the Republican, but the current loud, right-wing faction would likely denounce him (and any GOP candidate who stood for good governance rather than tax cuts, deregulation and tribalism) as a RINO.

But Donald won the Republican ticket; and enough people, whether they wanted him or not, were absolutely not ok with Hillary; and so he got their votes or they abstained.

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Not so much their votes as the Electoral College votes (he lost the popular vote).

And we have ones on Christian TV saying we need to choose the lesser of two evils. And this could mean voting for Donald, as some might see him.

I did my voting by prayer, trusting God to decide and how God is able to use any one in authority for good, however He pleases.

Now some number of voters know how they feel about their voting for Donald. If he runs again, he will find out if as many voters still would do the same thing. I thought he could win, the first time, because he was less well-known for his political ways; and now ones have had an opportunity to see about his ways, and we will see what the votes say

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We'll have to wait and see if he lasts that long. Better politically for the Dems if he does and if he were to get the nomination again.

LivingWordUnity said:

My source is my opinion.

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You made a claim not an opinion.

iluvatar5150 said:

It's an effective way to maintain the persecution complex

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Heck, I was able to accomplish all that long before Trump just by being a Jewish Republican…

DaisyDay said:

Not so much their votes as the Electoral College votes (he lost the popular vote).

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That is what I remember; thank you for the reminder.

DaisyDay said:

We'll have to wait and see if he lasts that long. Better politically for the Dems if he does and if he were to get the nomination again.

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My prejudice is to think he now would have fewer votes and this would mean the Democrats would win, against him. He lost, anyway, in the popular vote.

But how many of those Democratic votes were cheap, meaning they rounded up people who did not know how to vote? The same question more or less applies to those who voted for Donald.

If only qualified voters voted . . . maybe you would be President, Daisy

iluvatar5150 said:

Lots of people the Dems could nominate could legitimately be described as flawed, and then the right would pile on top of that a bunch of allegations that aren't legitimate yet still play well (e.g. Biden as pedo). Hillary may have been flawed, but Trump was still an obviously unqualified joke even during the campaign. And while more people may have since come to that conclusion, many have also fully drank his golden koolaid.

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I was under the impression that this was a CHRISTAIN site where the bible is discussed. If this is a place for poiltics then I want no part of it.

com7fy8 said:

That is what I remember; thank you for the reminder.

My prejudice is to think he now would have fewer votes and this would mean the Democrats would win, against him. He lost, anyway, in the popular vote.

But how many of those Democratic votes were cheap, meaning they rounded up people who did not know how to vote? The same question more or less applies to those who voted for Donald.

If only qualified voters voted . . . maybe you would be President, Daisy

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It's kind of the dilemma, isn't it? Everybody voting is fair and lets everybody have a say in their government. It also means that a delusional person who believes that Bigfoot wants them to vote for the Green party can vote for exactly that reason.

Jerome Johnson said:

I was under the impression that this was a CHRISTAIN site where the bible is discussed. If this is a place for poiltics then I want no part of it.

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The term “Politics” should’ve tipped you off.

LivingWordUnity said:

Dem leaders want to impeach Trump because they know they can't beat him in the 2020 election.

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I knew there was something missing from this OP. There should have been a mention of hating Trump and how the media is angry because Clinton was supposed to win the election.

LoAmmi said:

a delusional person who believes that Bigfoot wants them to vote for the Green party can vote for exactly that reason.

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A person with enough money and cleverness could get Bigfoot written in to win the next presidential election.

Or someone delusional could already be President, and ones opposing him might sidetrack themselves with an impeachment proceeding so their resources are not doing what would be most effective.

wing2000 said:

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The resemblance is uncanny!

GoldenBoy89 said:

The resemblance is uncanny!

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Yeah...but Sasquatch seems to have a better hairdresser....

Breaking News…

Republican Leaders change the laws during lame duck sessions because they can’t win elections.

Basil the Great said:

Well.... if anyone believes the premise stated here, that the Dems cannot beat Trump in 2020, then please come to me and maybe I can sell you London bridge.....

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Well maybe as long as the Dems and their committed mainstream media don't play the game and try to convince people they've already got it won. Presumption and pride can be the downfall of either side. All were told Trump didn't have the pathway to achieve the electoral college so they were either stupid or lying.

Allandavid said:

Yeah...but Sasquatch seems to have a better hairdresser....

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And better hair...

Bobber said:

Well maybe as long as the Dems and their committed mainstream media don't play the game and try to convince people they've already got it won. Presumption and pride can be the downfall of either side. All were told Trump didn't have the pathway to achieve the electoral college so they were either stupid or lying.

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What happened was we all misjudged the level of desperation on the right. Their desire to win was far greater than their sense of character analysis.

GoldenBoy89 said:

What happened was we all misjudged the level of desperation on the right. Their desire to win was far greater than their sense of character analysis.

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It's ironic just how much evangelical conservatives have changed their moral tune since Bill Clinton was still the president. These same evangelicals use to be so morally indignant at Clinton because he was an adulterous philandering sexual predator just like Trump is. But since it's now Trump, a man who politically panders to them and their evangelical faith, it's all 'Don't judge the president!' now.

The following quotes by James Dobson is the perfect example of the desire of the Right to win was far greater than their sense of character analysis. Dobson's moral inconsistency is blatantly obvious.

James Dobson condemning Bill Clinton in 1998: "Character does matter. You can't run a family, let alone a country without it. How foolish to believe that a person who lacks honesty and moral integrity is qualified to lead a nation and the world." (Source)

James Dobson endorsing Donald Trump is 2016: "I’m not under any illusions that he is an outstanding moral example. It’s a cliché but true: We are electing a commander-in-chief, not a theologian-in-chief.” (Source)