Why Did D. M. Canright leave the Seventh-Day Adventists?

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That's not actually a valid reason to disagree with what was presented on 2 Corinthians 3 [[1] [2]], in regards the "glory" of "his (Moses) face" being done away rather than the Ten Commandments (which are eternal as God is; see Psalms 119:89-96,97, notice the declaration of God's "faithfulness" which was seen in Exodus 20:5-6, Exodus 33:12-23; Exodus 34:1-9), since you presented 0 (zero, nada, ziltch, bubkiss, nothing) evidence for the claim.

I presented the facts of context and even of linguistics and translation. You have?
I took that passage at face value without all the fancy footwork to deny what it plainly says. What did you do? (fancy footwork) Very entertaining, but inaccurate.
 
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That's not actually a valid reason to disagree with what was presented on 2 Corinthians 3 [[1] [2]], in regards the "glory" of "his (Moses) face" being done away rather than the Ten Commandments (which are eternal as God is; see Psalms 119:89-96,97, notice the declaration of God's "faithfulness" which was seen in Exodus 20:5-6, Exodus 33:12-23; Exodus 34:1-9), since you presented 0 (zero, nada, ziltch, bubkiss, nothing) evidence for the claim.

I presented the facts of context and even of linguistics and translation. You have?

Your probably wasting your time here in this thread brother. As some think that JESUS actually broke the 10 commandments therefore not our perfect sacrifice and Saviour from sin. They also teaches God's 10 commandments have been abolished something the scriptures warn us about.
 
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Right. Go waste your time somewhere else. lol

And, today's grammar lesson.
Your vs. You're

Your: Possessive of you.
Example: Is that your phone?

You're: Contraction of "you are".
Example: You're the one.
 
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You have misread 2 Corinthians 3 ... more.

Now even from the Latin, it is rendered Masculine:

"3:7 quod si ministratio mortis litteris deformata in lapidibus fuit in gloria ita ut non possent intendere filii Israhel in faciem Mosi propter gloriam vultus eius quae evacuatur" - 2nd Corinthians 3 - 2nd Corinthians 3 - Parallel Greek New Testament - HTML Bible by johnhurt.com

Now from the Spanish Reina Valera Antigua, renders in the Masculine:

"7 Y si el ministerio de muerte en la letra grabado en piedras, fué con gloria, tanto que los hijos de Israel no pudiesen poner los ojos en la faz de Moisés á causa de la gloria de su rostro, la cual había de perecer," - 2 Corintios 3 RVA - Bible Gateway passage: 2 Corintios 3 - Reina-Valera Antigua

Now also the Luther German Bible, rendering it in the Masculine:

"[3.7] Wenn aber schon das Amt, das den Tod bringt und das mit Buchstaben in Stein gehauen war, Herrlichkeit hatte, so daß die Israeliten das Angesicht des Mose nicht ansehen konnten wegen der Herrlichkeit auf seinem Angesicht, die doch aufhörte," - Bible, Luther Translation

Now the Wycliffe Bible, renders in the Masculine:

"7 And if the mynystracioun of deth write bi lettris in stoonys was in glorie, so that the children of Israel myyten not biholde in to the face of Moises, for the glorie of his cheer, which is auoidid," - http://wesley.nnu.edu/fileadmin/imported_site/biblical_studies/wycliffe/2co.txt

Now the William Tyndale Bible, renders in the Masculine:

"7 Yf the ministracion of deeth thorow the letters figured in stones was glorious so yt the chyldren of Israel coulde not beholde the face of Moses for the glory of his countenauce (which glory neverthelesse is done awaye)" - http://wesley.nnu.edu/fileadmin/imported_site/tyndale/2co.txt

Now the Miles Coverdale Bible, renders in the Masculine [Right Hand Page, Top Left Paragraph, Line 3-4]:

"...for y clearnesse of his countenassce..." - Coverdale Bible, 1535 - Coverdale Bible, 1535

http://ia600704.us.archive.org/Book...35_0533.jp2&scale=2.1310344827586207&rotate=0

Now for the Geneva Bible, renders in the Masculine:

"7 If then the ministration of death written with letters and engraven in stones, was [j]glorious, so that the children of Israel could not behold the face of Moses, for the glory of his countenance (which glory is gone away.)" - 2 Corinthians 3 GNV - Bible Gateway passage: 2 Corinthians 3 - 1599 Geneva Bible

The Greek Interlinears each translate it in the Masculine, here are 4 major witnesses to testify:

“2Co 3:7 ειG1487 COND δεG1161 CONJ ηG3588 T-NSF διακονιαG1248 N-NSF τουG3588 T-GSM θανατουG2288 N-GSM ενG1722 PREP γραμμασινG1121 N-DPN εντετυπωμενηG1795 V-RPP-NSF ενG1722 PREP λιθοιςG3037 N-DPM εγενηθηG1096 V-AOI-3S ενG1722 PREP δοξηG1391 N-DSF ωστεG5620 CONJ μηG3361 PRT-N δυνασθαιG1410 V-PNN ατενισαιG816 V-AAN τουςG3588 T-APM υιουςG5207 N-APM ισραηλG2474 N-PRI ειςG1519 PREP τοG3588 T-ASN προσωπονG4383 N-ASN μωσεωςG3475 N-GSM διαG1223 PREP τηνG3588 T-ASF δοξανG1391 N-ASF τουG3588 T-GSN προσωπουG4383 N-GSN αυτουG846 P-GSM τηνG3588 T-ASF καταργουμενηνG2673 V-PPP-ASF ” - E-Sword app GNT-TR+ [Greek New Testament of the Textus Receptus with Strong's Numbers and Robinson's Morphological Analysis codes]

“ But if the ministration of death, written [and] engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which [glory] was to be done away:
...

proswpon
prosOpon
G4383
n_ Acc Sg n
face

mwsews
mOseOs
G3475
n_ Gen Sg m
OF-MOSES

dia
dia
G1223
Prep
THRU
because-of

thn
tEn
G3588
t_ Acc Sg f
THE

doxan
doxan
G1391
n_ Acc Sg f
esteem
glory

tou
tou
G3588
t_ Gen Sg n
OF-THE

proswpou
prosOpou
G4383
n_ Gen Sg n
face

autou
autou
G846
pp Gen Sg m
OF-him

thn
tEn
G3588
t_ Acc Sg f
THE

katargoumenhn
katargoumenEn
G2673
vp Pres Pas Acc Sg f
one
-
be
ING-DOWN-UN-ACTED
vanishing
:83 “ - http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/2co3.pdf

Now see also:

Greek New Testament Interlinear, which reads, “...into the face of Moses, on account of the glory of his face, which is being annulled;...” - The interlinear literal translation of the Greek New Testament

Another:

“ ...
προσώπου
prosōpou •
face

αὐτοῦ
autou •
his

τὴν
tēn •
which

καταργουμένην,
katargoumenēn •
fading
” - 2 Corinthians 3 Interlinear Bible

And finally:

“7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away :

Eij {COND} de; {CONJ} hJ {T-NSF} diakoniva {N-NSF} tou' {T-GSN} qanavtou {N-GSM} ejn {PREP} gravmmasin {N-DPN} ejntetupwmevnh {V-RPP-NSF} livqoi? {N-DPM} ejgenhvqh {V-AOI-3S} ejn {PREP} dovxh/, w&ste {CONJ} mh; {PRT} duvnasqai {V-PNN} ajtenivsai {V-AAN} tou;? {T-APM} uiJou;? {N-APM} #Israh;l {N-PRI} eij? {PREP} to; {T-ASN} provswpon {N-ASN} Mwu>sevw? {N-GSM} dia; {PREP} th;n {T-ASF} dovxan tou' {T-GSN} proswvpou {N-GSN} aujtou' {P-GSM} th;n {T-ASF} katargoumevnhn, {V-PPP-ASF}
” - 2 Corinthians 3:7 KJV - Interlinear Bible - Online Bible Study Tools

...now even beyond all of that evidence of the mere translations of the greek scholars and some of the greatest and finest minds of the reformation itself, which actually translated under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, we see that the very context itself dictates the Masculine, for notice:

But if the ministration of death, written [and] engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which [glory] was to be done away: 2 Corinthians 3:7

How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 2 Corinthians 3:8

What we have here is structurally built:

"But if.... so that..." [vs 7]

"How shall... be rather..." [vs 8]

The "if" is realized in vs 8, not in vs 7. Even moreso, when looking at the text, we can see further parallels, in that the word for "face" ["the face of Moses"] is repeated again in the Masculine, "his countenance".

Thus "face" and "countenance" are pointing to the same thing, and sharing, in other words they both speak of Moses face. Both glories in the latter portion of the text speak of Moses face which the Children of Israel could not behold, and which was to be done away, having the veil removed, no longer needing type. Thus the first portion of vs 7 and the whole of vs 8 are related speaking of "ministration". Thus we have a true A1 B1 B2 A2 pattern in vs 7-8. Ministration, glory of Moses face, glory of Moses face, Ministration... It is as sealed in the Masculine, "his [Moses] face", as it is going to get.

The immediate context of "which [glory] was to be done away" is already the text just before it, which is, "the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face of Moses..."; Why? "...for the glory of his [masculine pronoun pointing back to the masculine proper Noun-Moses, not the feminine noun "ministration"] countenance...". It is speaking about that which was given by Moses, through a veil, even a covering, a shrouded mystery of types and shadows, speaking of the ceremonial law, handwritten by Moses. The type was glorious, even behind the veil, but it was only temporary, even as the reality [Jesus] of those shadows [ceremonies, sacrifices, etc] was far more glorious shedding His light upon the Ten Commandments, upholding them even unto Death, the Death of the cross.

The typological shed glory upon the Law of God, the Ten Commandments, but were temporary, while the Law of God, the Ten Commandments, as seen in the face of Christ Jesus is much more glorious, since Christ Jesus paid with His life to uphold, honour, and magnify them. The very context speaks of this which remaineth is far more glorious, even the Ten Commandments:

For if that which is done away [was] glorious, much more that which remaineth [is] glorious. 2 Corinthians 3:11

[1] For it is obvious there were two major portions seen in the past, the one, the ceremonials/sacrifices/shadows/types under the veil of Moses, so to speak as Paul, which had a temporary glory pointing unto the sacredness of the Ten Commandments and of the Character of God in it, pointing to a yet future reality [Jesus],

[2] and the latter, the Ten Commandments in Christ, blazing with the full light of the Gospel, which remains forever.

Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed [each other]. Psalms 85:10

Thy Law is the Truth, all thy Commandments are Truth, etc, and all thy commandments are righteouness... etc.

Law and Grace. No need for Grace without a transgressed Law.

Here is the passage again, from E-Sword, module GNT-TR+:

2Co 3:7 ειG1487 COND δεG1161 CONJ ηG3588 T-NSF διακονιαG1248 N-NSF τουG3588 T-GSM θανατουG2288 N-GSM ενG1722 PREP γραμμασινG1121 N-DPN εντετυπωμενηG1795 V-RPP-NSF ενG1722 PREP λιθοιςG3037 N-DPM εγενηθηG1096 V-AOI-3S ενG1722 PREP δοξηG1391 N-DSF ωστεG5620 CONJ μηG3361 PRT-N δυνασθαιG1410 V-PNN ατενισαιG816 V-AAN τουςG3588 T-APM υιουςG5207 N-APM ισραηλG2474 N-PRI ειςG1519 PREP τοG3588 T-ASN προσωπονG4383 N-ASN μωσεωςG3475 N-GSM διαG1223 PREP τηνG3588 T-ASF δοξανG1391 N-ASF τουG3588 T-GSN προσωπουG4383 N-GSN αυτουG846 P-GSM τηνG3588 T-ASF καταργουμενηνG2673 V-PPP-ASF

The word for "his" αυτουG846 P-GSM, in "his countenance", is from Robinson's Morphological Analysis codes:

Part of Speech: Personal pronoun
Case: Genitive
Number: Singular

Gender: Masculine

This cannot be referring to the "διακονιαG1248" or "ministration" as it is N-NSF", but we see directly that "μωσεωςG3475 N-GSM" or Moses it does refer to, since Moses is the "Noun", "Genetive", "Singular" "Masculine" to which the "αυτουG846 P-GSM" is now referring to, since it is the "personal pronoun" of such.

Therefore it is the "glory of his [Moses] countenance" "which ... was to be done away", not the glory of the Law as seen in the face of Jesus Christ, since as it is written, that which was not to pass away, remains, "For if that which is done away [was] glorious, much more that which remaineth [is] glorious." 2 Corinthians 3:11

That is to say the Ten Commandments are more "glorious" and "remaineth" because as they are seen in the face/chracter/life of Christ Jesus, who even came to "magnify" and "make honourable " the Law. Jesus fully demonstrated how to live them in the likeness of sinful (fallen) flesh as we have by and through the Holy Ghost.
I reject this erroneous explanation of the text (2 Corinthians 3:7-11) given by you. Some how you have completely ignored the context of chapter three, and ignored what was written.

2 Corinthians 3:7-11
But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.

Here is the context of chapter three.

The new covenant in Christ, the ministry of the Spirit.

Written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

Who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ.

The fading glory was the old covenant law, the letter of the law. This passage really has nothing to do with the fading glory of the man's face (Moses).
 
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Seven pages and I have yet to see anyone answer the topic title question.
Why Did D. M. Canright leave the Seventh-Day Adventists?

He was a bit goofed up at the end... not thinking straight.

I pointed that out on "page one" of the thread... as we all know.

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"How could Sunday worship have come from paganism,
when Sunday was never a pagan holiday?" — RALPH WOODROW


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D. M. Canright, a Seventh-Day Adventist minister.
Contacted the experts listed below to gather conclusive
evidence about pagan sun worship. He set out to prove
the SDA point on this once and for all.

Why Did D. M. Canright leave the Seventh-Day Adventists?

Here's an overview of the key findings and sources.
Questions were put to these experts in Bible times history.

- F. N. Pryce of the British Museum in London, England,
Department of Greek and Roman Antiquities

- R. Rathborn of the Smithsonian Institute, Washington, D.C.

- George F.Moore, Professor of Ancient Roman and Greek History,
at Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts.

- Professor W. H. Westerman of the
University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin.

- J. W. Moncrieff, Professor at the University of Chicago.

All these experts in ancient history answered in chorus, "No."
The pagans did not gather on Sunday to worship the sun.
They did not gather on any day of the week to worship or
have a festival or day of rest. Worship gathering was annual for them.
Nor did they even follow a seven day week until after Christian times.
The significance of the week day names was astrological, not religious.
Their week was an eight day cycle based on their "weekly" market day.

Back in 1913-1914 the questions were put to these experts by
D. M. Canright, a Seventh-Day Adventist minister.
Who set out to prove the SDA point on this once and for all.
He left the SDA church as a result.

Source link

hmmm "venerable day of the SUN" -

from - Sunday - Wikipedia
In Roman culture, Sunday was the day of the Sun god. In paganism, the sun was a source of life, giving warmth and illumination to mankind. It was the center of a popular cult among Romans, who would stand at dawn to catch the first rays of sunshine as they prayed.[dubiousdiscuss]

The opportunity to spot in the nature-worship of their heathen neighbors a symbolism valid to their own faith was not lost on the Christians. One of the Church fathers, St. Jerome, would declare: "If pagans call [the Lord's Day] [...] the 'day of the sun,' we willingly agree, for today the light of the world is raised, today is revealed the sun of justice with healing in his rays."[7]


The ancient Romans traditionally used the eight-day nundinal cycle, a market week, but in the time of Augustus in the 1st century AD, a seven-day week also came into use.

Justin Martyr, in the mid 2nd century, mentions "memoirs of the apostles" as being read on "the day called that of the sun" (Sunday) alongside the "writings of the prophets." [9]

On 7 March 321, Constantine I, Rome's first Christian Emperor (see Constantine I and Christianity), decreed that Sunday would be observed as the Roman day of rest:[10]

"On the venerable Day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country, however, persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits; because it often happens that another day is not so suitable for grain-sowing or vine-planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.[11]

Despite the official adoption of Sunday as a day of rest by Constantine, the seven-day week and the nundial cycle continued to be used side-by-side until at least the Calendar of 354 and probably later.[12]

In 363, Canon 29 of the Council of Laodicea prohibited observance of the Jewish Sabbath (Saturday), and encouraged Christians to work on the Saturday and rest on the Lord's Day (Sunday).[13] The fact that the canon had to be issued at all is an indication that adoption of Constantine's decree of 321 was still not universal, not even among Christians. It also indicates that Jews were observing the Sabbath on the Saturday.
 
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I reject this erroneous explanation of the text (2 Corinthians 3:7-11) given by you. .

In real life - he did not write all those Bible translations -- and we all know it.

Try something believable.
 
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But... Why Did D. M. Canright leave the Seventh-Day Adventists?

He was a bit goofed up at the end... not thinking straight...
1. when he imagined that the historic facts that I just posted "do not exist"
2. When he imagined that without a flawed week-day-1 opposing the Bible Sabbath that the Bible Sabbath would not hold up.
3. When he imagined he was wiser than God.

I pointed that out on "page one" of the thread... as we all know.

like this
================================
"How could Sunday worship have come from paganism,
when Sunday was never a pagan holiday?" — RALPH WOODROW


Source link

D. M. Canright, a Seventh-Day Adventist minister.
Contacted the experts listed below to gather conclusive
evidence about pagan sun worship. He set out to prove
the SDA point on this once and for all.

Why Did D. M. Canright leave the Seventh-Day Adventists?

hmmm "venerable day of the SUN" -

from - Sunday - Wikipedia
In Roman culture, Sunday was the day of the Sun god. In paganism, the sun was a source of life, giving warmth and illumination to mankind. It was the center of a popular cult among Romans, who would stand at dawn to catch the first rays of sunshine as they prayed.[dubiousdiscuss]

The opportunity to spot in the nature-worship of their heathen neighbors a symbolism valid to their own faith was not lost on the Christians. One of the Church fathers, St. Jerome, would declare: "If pagans call [the Lord's Day] [...] the 'day of the sun,' we willingly agree, for today the light of the world is raised, today is revealed the sun of justice with healing in his rays."[7]


The ancient Romans traditionally used the eight-day nundinal cycle, a market week, but in the time of Augustus in the 1st century AD, a seven-day week also came into use.

Justin Martyr, in the mid 2nd century, mentions "memoirs of the apostles" as being read on "the day called that of the sun" (Sunday) alongside the "writings of the prophets." [9]

On 7 March 321, Constantine I, Rome's first Christian Emperor (see Constantine I and Christianity), decreed that Sunday would be observed as the Roman day of rest:[10]

"On the venerable Day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country, however, persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits; because it often happens that another day is not so suitable for grain-sowing or vine-planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.[11]

Despite the official adoption of Sunday as a day of rest by Constantine, the seven-day week and the nundial cycle continued to be used side-by-side until at least the Calendar of 354 and probably later.[12]

In 363, Canon 29 of the Council of Laodicea prohibited observance of the Jewish Sabbath (Saturday), and encouraged Christians to work on the Saturday and rest on the Lord's Day (Sunday).[13] The fact that the canon had to be issued at all is an indication that adoption of Constantine's decree of 321 was still not universal, not even among Christians. It also indicates that Jews were observing the Sabbath on the Saturday.
 
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He was a bit goofed up at the end... not thinking straight...
1. when he imagined that the historic facts that I just posted "do not exist"
2. When he imagined that without a flawed week-day-1 opposing the Bible Sabbath that the Bible Sabbath would not hold up.
3. When he imagined he was wiser than God.
You seem to be the one imagining things. (goofed up)
 
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You seem to be the one imagining things. (goofed up)

So you come to another denomination board area - and offer "that" as your compelling argument when confronted with actual facts??

Seriously??

How sad.
 
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The fading glory was the old covenant law, the letter of the law. This passage really has nothing to do with the fading glory of the man's face (Moses).

Hello David,

If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT was how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT points to? You mix up the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT with God's eternal law that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

If your trying to argue that 2 CORINTHIANS 3 is talking about God's 10 Commandments being abolished then you really need to re-read the whole chapter brother because it is saying no such thing.

2 CORINTHIANS 3 is discussing the two glories of the covenants which are the 10 Commandments written on stone and the promise of the Spirit to write them in the heart through faith that works by LOVE.

One written on stone; Gives us the KNOWLEDGE of SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. We all must have a knowledge of what sin is before we can be forgiven and free to walk in God's Spirit *ACTS 2:38; 1 JOHN 1:9; PROVERBS 28:13. The promise of God's Spirit in the NEW COVENANT changes the minsistration of death (wages of sin ROMANS 6:23) to the ministration of the Spirit removing God's commandments written on stone by writing them on the fleshly tables of the heart through faith that works by LOVE *HEBREWS 8:7-12 because LOVE is the establishing and fulfilling of Gods LAW in all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's Word *ROMANS 13:8-10.

2 CORINTHIANS 3 is showing the process of conversion in the NEW COVENANT with God's LAW written on stone giving us the knowledge of SIN and leading us cross of Christ and to the NEW COVENANT promise to be born again, to have God's law written in the heart through faith that works by love freeing us to walk in the Spirit GALATIANS 3:22-25; GALATIANS 5:16; ROMANS 8:1-4.

Let's look at the scriptures and show all the context shall we?

2 CORINTHIANS 3:1-10
[1], Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?
[2], You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
[3], Since you are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tables of the heart.
[4],
And such trust have we through Christ toward God:
[5], Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think anything as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
[6], Who also has made us able ministers of the new covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life.
[7], But if the ministry of death, written and engraved in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[8], How shall not the ministry of the Spirit be more glorious?
[9], For if the ministry of condemnation be glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness exceed in glory.
[10], For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excels.

Now take a look at v3 highlighted in RED which is the CONTEXT or what follows. Now take a look at the NEW COVENANT promise from Jeremiah 31:31-34 and repeated by the same same author as Corinthians in Hebrews 8:10-12 and 10:16-17

Hebrews 8:10-12
[10], For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
[11], And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
[12], For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

2 Corinthians 3 is talking about the NEW COVENANT of God's LAW written on the heart through faith that works by LOVE by His Spirit. Moving from the tables of stone to the fleshly tables of the heart (2 Corinthiand 3:3; Hebrews 8:10)

Let's look at the scriptures laid out together side by side...

2 CORINTHIANS 3:3, [3], Since you are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tables of the heart.

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Hebrews 8:10 [10], For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people.

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JEREMIAH 31:33 [33], But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, said the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

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EZEKIEL 36:26-27 [26], A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

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2 CORINTHIANS 3:3 [3], Since you are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tables of the heart.

continuing in Ezekiel 36..

[27], And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and you shall keep my judgments, and do them.

God's Spirit of love...

ROAMNS 13:8-10 [8], Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law. [9], For this, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, You shall not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. [10], Love works no ill to his neighbor: THEREFORE LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.

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CONCLUSION
: 2 Corinthians 3 is talking about the NEW COVENANT of LOVE written on the heart to walk in God's LAW, through LOVE. It is NOT talking about ABOLISHING God's LAW it is talking about FULFILLING God's LAW in those who BELIEVE God's WORD. This is RIGHTEOUSNESS (Salvation) by FAITH for a SINNER that BELIEVES the WORD'S of the SAVIOUR (JESUS). What is being ABOLISHED is the condemnation and the penalty of sin [DEATH] through FAITH in Christ by walking in the Spirit under the NEW COVENANT.

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SIN is still the same as it has always been which is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4) Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

Sorry David God's WORD disagrees with you. If you do away with God's 10 Commandments then you have no knowledge of what sin is. If you have no knowledge of what sin is you have no need of a Saviour. If you have no Saviour you have no salvation because you are still in your sins and have not been born again to walk in God's Spirit by faith that works by love.

Hope this helps
 
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You seem to be the one imagining things. (goofed up)

So you come to another denomination board area - and offer "that" as your compelling argument when confronted with actual facts??

Seriously??

How sad.

This isn't a denomination board.
This is General Theology > Sabbath and The Law

Sorry about that - my mistake. I keep switching back and forth between threads here and in the SDA area of the board. I presumed an SDA-only topic that excludes all the other pro-Bible-Sabbath participants on this area of the board would have been a bit narrow ... so I simply assumed it was SDA and you were under some obligation to post a compelling argument and not mere fluff ad hominem CF rule violating content.

My bad.

Carry on.
 
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Sorry about that - my mistake. I keep switching back and forth between threads here and in the SDA area of the board. I presumed an SDA-only topic that excludes all the other pro-Bible-Sabbath participants on this area of the board would have been a bit narrow ... so I simply assumed it was SDA and you were under some obligation to post a compelling argument and not mere fluff ad hominem CF rule violating content.

My bad.

Carry on.
No problem.
I'm glad we could clear that up.
 
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Strawman again.

Sabbath is not actually "saturday". Never was, never has been, never will be.

Sabbath is from evening (sunset) to evening (sunset) the 7th day. God's time.

Saturday is midnight to midnight, Roman time. Pagan time.
What day do you go to church?
 
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Sounds like Friday sunset to Saturday sundown to me.
Therefore primarily Saturday. Thanks.
Just as I suspected.

So, if the name of the day of the week determines which deity is being worshiped,
than that would be primarily Saturn.
 
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