Trump says he's not concerned about being impeached: 'The people would revolt'

tulc said:

I don't think President Trump quite understands how the whole "rule of law" thing works in America.

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So far there's no real evidence that he's committed an impeachable offense; sounds to me like he understands "the rule of law" far better than some people would like.

tulc said:

Uhmmm...not if he thinks he can't be impeached because "his people wouldn't like it".

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That's not quite what he said.
chilehed (who knows that it's important to understand what was actually said. Just a thought.)

tulc said:

Trump says he's not concerned about being impeached: 'The people would revolt'

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And vice versa. Most people aren't concerned with his propagandistic, scaremongering claims that there will be a revolt if he's impeached. The top two largest protests in America's history were organized as a rebuke of him. Democrats just won the House with the hugest margin of victory in a midterms election for either party in United States history, smashing the previous midterms record held since 1974. The previous record was achieved just months after President Richard Nixon resigned from office in disgrace amid the Watergate scandal. President Nixon also made proclamations of innocence and emphatically stated he would not be resign or face impeachment.

Vicomte13 said:

The civil war would be WITHIN each state. The whole country would be in flames. There would be no "front", everywhere would be the frontline. Wherever there are "purple" areas today, people would be fighting tooth and nail, dogs and cats living together, real apocalyptic stuff.

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I agree that's what it'd have to be if there ever was what you'd call a civil war. I have a hard time envisioning the populace of the county would really have the stomach or desire to bottom out their economic well being in doing such though. I think when push comes to shove people would rather have economic stability with a society that's at least able to function.

The picture you painted does remind me though of a series of science-fiction books, the late Issac Assinov wrote, called "Foundation and Empire". The idea was what was a Great Galactic Empire (which we could compare the the United States) was going to collapse and splinter into a thousand different pieces.

"The premise of the series is that the mathematician Hari Seldon spent his life developing a branch of mathematics known as psychohistory , a concept of mathematical sociology. Using the laws of mass action , it can predict the future, but only on a large scale. Seldon foresees the imminent fall of the Galatic Empire, which encompasses the entire Milky Way, and a dark age lasting 30,000 years before a second great empire arises."

Foundation series - Wikipedia

tulc said:

so if there's evidence of wrong doing he should be impeached, right? That's how the rule of law works.

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And if there isn't he shouldn't.

Which is what he said.

You understand now.

DennisTate said:

He perhaps might not be the only one to misunderstand that phrase?

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Why take any of this seriously?

Vicomte13 said:

The Republicans problem is that they have resisted Trump. The People voted in Trump and the bulk of their electorate support him over them. They've been behaving like the British Tories over Brexit. The People spoke, but the party in power didn't like the answer, so they keep trying to avoid the result. All that will do in the end is result in Labour rule, in Britain, and Democrat rule in the USA.

If they support Trump, they can win back power. If they don't, they'll lose it for a generation.

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The Tories aren't trying to avoid Brexit. The Labour leader is pretty noncommittal about the idea either way.

Toro said:

The Dems will impeach Trump to the same level of effectiveness that the Republicans impeached Obama.

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What were the grounds for Obama's impeachment?

list of individuals impeached:
I didn't know all these people were

List of Individuals Impeached by the House of Representatives | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

Tom Farebrother said:

What were the grounds for Obama's impeachment?

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Kenyan birth certificate?

Doctor.Sphinx said:

Kenyan birth certificate?

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Was there an attempt to impeach Obama? Someone mentioned it here, but I hadn't heard that before.

Tom Farebrother said:

Was there an attempt to impeach Obama? Someone mentioned it here, but I hadn't heard that before.

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I don't think so. Nothing got traction, to my knowledge.

christine40 said:

list of individuals impeached:
I didn't know all these people were

List of Individuals Impeached by the House of Representatives | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

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Not even 20 people in over 200 years. Impeachment is more or less a dead letter at this point. Both the actual impeachment vote and vote to remove from office tends to fall along party lines even for lesser offices.

tulc said:

"You can't touch me no matter what I do because my people wouldn't like it." is basically the opposite of the rule of law.

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Impeachment trials are in the Senate, not courts. In the Senate, the rules of politics determines the outcome, law truly has nothing whatever to do with it. There are no rules of evidence, or any other rules. The Senate votes as they individually think politically expedient, and the only accountability they have in their votes is to their voters in their states - so yes, it's a matter of political popularity, what people want. And it's JUST that, PURELY political, PURELY popularity, in an impeachment trial. Law's got nuthin' to do with it.

Tom Farebrother said:

The Tories aren't trying to avoid Brexit. The Labour leader is pretty noncommittal about the idea either way.

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Half the Tories are. The other half want it. This is why they're dead.