Does Chromosome 2 fusion prove divergence from Adam?

Did Humans descend from the common ancestor of Apes?

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Adam was first made on the 3rd Day and every other living creature was created on the 5th Day. Does Chromosome 2 fusion agree? Yes. It shows that we descended from Adam, the common ancestor of all Humans and not from the common ancestor of Apes.
 
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Probably just a typo but Adam was 'day' 6 along with the land animals; the other creatures, those that swim or fly, came on 'day' 5 in Genesis 1 (which I think is Liturgical).

What is Chromosme 2 fusion, what does it agree with, and why does it show we are all descended from Adam?
 
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Probably just a typo but Adam was 'day' 6 along with the land animals;

Adam was first made from the dust of the ground by Lord God/Jesus on the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain. Genesis 2:4-7 Adam was later "created in God's Image" or born again Spiritually, on the present 6th Day. Genesis 1:27

the other creatures, those that swim or fly, came on 'day' 5 in Genesis 1 (which I think is Liturgical).

"Every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from water by God the Trinity on the 5th Day/Age which was 3.8 Billion years ago, in man's time. Genesis 1:21

What is Chromosme 2 fusion, what does it agree with, and why does it show we are all descended from Adam?

What I show is that Scripture science and history AGREE when we see it through the eyes of one who lives in the last days of this Earth. God hid His scientific Truth in Genesis and only the people of the last days have the "increased knowledge" to understand this in Genesis. Daniel 12:4

Go to this website to see info concerning chromosome 2 fusion:
Does Chromosome 2 fusion prove divergence from Apes

From the site: Finally, modern humans (homo-sapien Sapiens) all have 23 pairs of Chromosomes due to a fusion at Chromosome 2. It has been alleged for decades that this was indicative of the relationship between Chimps and Humans and probably occurred in the alleged last common ancestor as Chimps and Humans diverged. However now we KNOW that was not correct and in fact that premise was wrong.

The fusion at Chromo 2 occurred after humans had already long existed and had nothing to do with ape-kind at all. It turns out that Neanderthals and Denisovans each had 24. Thus Sapien sapiens are a simply different variety of human though still humans.

Scripture shows that Adam was made the 3rd Day Genesis 2:4-7 and all other creatures were brought forth from Water on the 5th Day. Genesis 1:21 This agrees with what the fusion at chromosome 2 shows. First was Adam and later the sons of God (prehistoric people). Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans to marry. Thus, the chromosome 2 fusion. Genesis 6:4 God's Truth is the Truth in every way.
 
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The Author of Genesis is the Spirit of Truth, the Holy Spirit. He knows all about what happens when chromosomes fuse. Amen?
Yes and no.

The author of Genesis was Moses who wrote what God told him to write.

But since God loves to let us participate in what He does, there is a lot of Moses in there too.

So let me ask it a different way:

Do you think Moses was concerned about chromosomes, or that God had the inclination to explain it to Moses?
 
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Adam was first made from the dust of the ground by Lord God/Jesus on the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain. Genesis 2:4-7 Adam was later "created in God's Image" or born again Spiritually, on the present 6th Day. Genesis 1:27



"Every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from water by God the Trinity on the 5th Day/Age which was 3.8 Billion years ago, in man's time. Genesis 1:21



What I show is that Scripture science and history AGREE when we see it through the eyes of one who lives in the last days of this Earth. God hid His scientific Truth in Genesis and only the people of the last days have the "increased knowledge" to understand this in Genesis. Daniel 12:4

Go to this website to see info concerning chromosome 2 fusion:
Does Chromosome 2 fusion prove divergence from Apes

From the site: Finally, modern humans (homo-sapien Sapiens) all have 23 pairs of Chromosomes due to a fusion at Chromosome 2. It has been alleged for decades that this was indicative of the relationship between Chimps and Humans and probably occurred in the alleged last common ancestor as Chimps and Humans diverged. However now we KNOW that was not correct and in fact that premise was wrong.

The fusion at Chromo 2 occurred after humans had already long existed and had nothing to do with ape-kind at all. It turns out that Neanderthals and Denisovans each had 24. Thus Sapien sapiens are a simply different variety of human though still humans.

Scripture shows that Adam was made the 3rd Day Genesis 2:4-7 and all other creatures were brought forth from Water on the 5th Day. Genesis 1:21 This agrees with what the fusion at chromosome 2 shows. First was Adam and later the sons of God (prehistoric people). Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans to marry. Thus, the chromosome 2 fusion. Genesis 6:4 God's Truth is the Truth in every way.
I have a different take on Genesis, but since that would be off topic I will just leave my opinion below and step out of the thread to keep it on track.

I take Genesis 2:5 to be the beginning of a new book, with the toledot heading in verse 4 actually referring to the preceding book in the compilation of the book of Genesis. The main reason we should see it in reverse is because the first book actually speaks of the heavens whereas the second doesn't. From that I see verse 5 as referring to the land of Eden. God plants the garden in the east section of Eden, and puts the man, whom He created in the land of Eden, into the newly made Garden.
 
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Yes and no.

The author of Genesis was Moses who wrote what God told him to write.

The Author of Genesis is the Holy Spirit who moved Moses from inside him to write what the Spirit of Truth told him to write. Moses wrote of things 3k years ago which NO man knew 3k years ago. A good example is the fact that "every living creature that moveth" was created from Water, Genesis 1:21 exactly as Science announced 2 years ago. Meet Luca, the Ancestor of All Living Things Jul 25, 2016 -

Do you think Moses was concerned about chromosomes, or that God had the inclination to explain it to Moses?

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
The reason is that God is going to "pour out His Spirit" to ALL flesh in the last days. What I find interesting is that He is doing it through the discoveries of Science.

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon ALL flesh:
 
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I take Genesis 2:5 to be the beginning of a new book, with the toledot heading in verse 4 actually referring to the preceding book in the compilation of the book of Genesis. The main reason we should see it in reverse is because the first book actually speaks of the heavens whereas the second doesn't. From that I see verse 5 as referring to the land of Eden. God plants the garden in the east section of Eden, and puts the man, whom He created in the land of Eden, into the newly made Garden.

Genesis One is the complete History of God's creation of the perfect physical Heaven which God filled with perfect Humans, made perfect in Christ in 6 of His Days/Ages. The entirety of the rest of the Bible contains the DETAILS of God's work outlined in Genesis One. We live today at Genesis 1:27 because God is still working/creating Adam/mankind in His Image or Spiritually in Christ. The prophecy of Genesis 1:28-31 happens AFTER Jesus returns at the Rapture.

Genesis 2:1-3 shows that God rests or ceases to create when this happens because God's perfect Heaven is finally filled with ALL of it's host/inhabitants. God doesn't rest because He's tired but instead, because His Creation has been brought to perfection which is the only way God would ever cease from ALL of His work of creating. Amen?

BTW, Thanks for posting your knowledge of the genetic fusion which agrees with God's Truth in Genesis.
 
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