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I read Msgr Pope's http://blog.adw.org/2018/12/jesus-come-adam-not-sinned-wait-long-coming-2/ . It was from Michie's thread. I responded at the article site. My response was read by monitors and posted at the site. My response is quoted below.
I am interested to know how people see God's relationship with man. Do you see Adam as God's 'First Contact' with an intelligent, free willed, life form outside Himself.
Hello Msgr. Pope,
I think we should consider free willed Adam being God’s ‘First Contact’ with intelligent life, other than Himself.
Second Psalm puts Jesus’, ‘Eternally Begotten of God’, at Jesus’ Resurrection. If we consider Jesus being Eternally born into Omni-Presence to all physical time, past, present and future, upon His Resurrection, Jesus can go from His Resurrection, to bring all of Creation into existence, as Omni-Present to all physical time, Eternal, God. Spiritually, the physical Incarnation could have happened after Jesus’ Eternal birth to God the Father, upon His Resurrection into the Spiritual Realm.
The Book of Job indicates the saints, ‘Sons of God’, were present at Creation. It seems saints, becoming Eternally begotten of God, at the end of physical time, from then on, also live in Spiritual omni-presence to the whole of physical time, and can watch God bring Creation into existence.
JOB 38:7
Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who stretched out the measuring line for it? Into what were its pedestals sunk, and who laid the cornerstone, While the morning stars sang in chorus and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Why did God create man, Adam, and then recreate man, Adam and Eve? There seems to be a learning curve for God, once ‘First Contact’ is made and God discusses with man what needs to be done to correct the situation. God seems to cherish His relationship with man, in which the future is not yet laid out.
To us, presently existing in the physical time realm, God Exists in Omni-Presence to the whole of physical time. To our God in the Spiritual Realm, He seems to watch and learn how free-willed man’s actions play out, after ‘First Contact’, upon Creation.
What do you think?
I am interested to know how people see God's relationship with man. Do you see Adam as God's 'First Contact' with an intelligent, free willed, life form outside Himself.
Hello Msgr. Pope,
I think we should consider free willed Adam being God’s ‘First Contact’ with intelligent life, other than Himself.
Second Psalm puts Jesus’, ‘Eternally Begotten of God’, at Jesus’ Resurrection. If we consider Jesus being Eternally born into Omni-Presence to all physical time, past, present and future, upon His Resurrection, Jesus can go from His Resurrection, to bring all of Creation into existence, as Omni-Present to all physical time, Eternal, God. Spiritually, the physical Incarnation could have happened after Jesus’ Eternal birth to God the Father, upon His Resurrection into the Spiritual Realm.
The Book of Job indicates the saints, ‘Sons of God’, were present at Creation. It seems saints, becoming Eternally begotten of God, at the end of physical time, from then on, also live in Spiritual omni-presence to the whole of physical time, and can watch God bring Creation into existence.
JOB 38:7
Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who stretched out the measuring line for it? Into what were its pedestals sunk, and who laid the cornerstone, While the morning stars sang in chorus and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Why did God create man, Adam, and then recreate man, Adam and Eve? There seems to be a learning curve for God, once ‘First Contact’ is made and God discusses with man what needs to be done to correct the situation. God seems to cherish His relationship with man, in which the future is not yet laid out.
To us, presently existing in the physical time realm, God Exists in Omni-Presence to the whole of physical time. To our God in the Spiritual Realm, He seems to watch and learn how free-willed man’s actions play out, after ‘First Contact’, upon Creation.
What do you think?