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Born Again ChristianWhat's BAC mean?
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Born Again ChristianWhat's BAC mean?
Several people who say they hear from God
(I won't call them prophets/watchmen any more),
are saying that His "remnant" believers who have been practicing righteousness, who are faithful, sanctified unto holiness, etc. will be the first fruits taken up in a pre-trib rapture; and those left behind who do the blue will be divinely protected and provided for during the reign of the antichrist.
It's the old story ...
God is only pleased with those who do da blue!
Don't mean to make a joke of it.
What percentage of North American churches
are first century modeled churches? ... 1%
Again, I repeat that the 120 were born-again ...
BEFORE the staggering events on the day of pentecost.
In Acts 1:15 they are called disciples or believers.
In Acts 2:1 they are called "they" or believers.
... Depending on your Bible version ...
The NLT calls them "believers" in both verses,
which is what they were!
It’s way off topic now.Is this thread about the prophets and watchmen being warned , or is the warning coming from the prophets and watchmen to the called out ones ?
Acts 1:14 - The disciples were praying in the upper room.And I repeat, they believed in Jesus, but had not received the Spirit. It is the giving of the Spirit that makes one born of the Spirit - born again.
Acts 1:14 - The disciples were praying in the upper room.
Acts 1:15 - They were joined by others (total of 120).
NKJV calls the 120 disciples and brethren.
NLT calls the 120 believers and brothers.
And they all prayed for a replacement for Judas.
Both of my 2 pentecostal/charismatic commentaries
say the 120 were believers (i.e. having the Spirit)
... and they were praying and waiting for pentecost.
Acts 2:1, NLT "On the day of pentecost all the believers were meeting together in one place, etc."
It’s way off topic now.
You mean habitually sin without repentance, right?
Yes, and don't we say that believers are BACs?I'm not sure what your point is. You have to "believe" before you can be born again.
If it doesn’t get back on track I’m moving on.Yes, rabbit trails, but seemed appropriate at the time...
It’s way off topic now.
Personally I’d start a new thread. This one is off on tangents. With your own the scope can be controlled and people are not having mini conversations.I have a topic " or what could be seen as a warning " to share . Is anyone interested ?
Yes, and don't we say that believers are BACs?
Of course, really only God knows who are sheep and
who are goats, etc.
If a person says he is a believer and prays with other believers, can't we accept him/her as being a believer?
None of these believers had time to see if everyone
had been demonstrating fruit, which proves who true believers are.
Then, how about if there were only 5 believers
who were actually born-again? These 5 had received
the first Spirit baptism, waiting for the second.
That would be quite a sight ...
120 non-BACs praying for the pentecostal blessing!
If you checked my chart, you would easily see that the "power" has to do with the baptism with the Holy Spirit, and ditto for "the promise", and "the gift", and the Spirit falling "upon".You seem to be confusing post-falling of the Spirit (now), with pre-falling of the Spirit and say those before the falling of the Spirit, did, in fact, have the Holy Spirit. But Jesus said to wait for the power. So, they were powerless Spirit-filled believers?
The spiritual power you talk about has nothing to do with any person.If you checked my chart, you would easily see that the "power" has to do with the baptism with the Holy Spirit, and ditto for "the promise", and "the gift", and the Spirit falling "upon".
BACs have very little "power" compared to those having the second Spirit baptism. Only these are Spirit-filled (shown in the chart also).
The power Jesus was talking about was spiritual power for evangelizing ... with SWMs confirming the gospel.
Hope this helps someone!
BACs have very little "power" compared to those having the second Spirit baptism.
If you checked my chart, you would easily see that the "power" has to do with the baptism with the Holy Spirit, and ditto for "the promise", and "the gift", and the Spirit falling "upon".
No one was "born again" until Pentecost. They couldn't be born again until they received the Spirit which didn't come till Acts chapter 2.