What a world this would be in these laws were enforced.

visionary · Dec 8, 2018

These are the 24 Offenses that require the Death Penalties in scripture:
1. Murder: Exodus 21:12, Exodus 21:14 Lev 24:17-21
2. Smiting your parents: Exodus 21:15
3. Kidnapping: Exodus 21:16 Deuteronomy 24:7
4. Cursing of Parents: Exodus 21:17
5. Abortion or Birth Control: Lev 20: 1-5
6. Negligent Property liability resulting in death: Exodus 21:28-29
7. Daylight killing of a thief: Exodus 22:2-38
8. Witchcraft: Exodus 22:18
9. inappropriate behavior with animals: Exodus 22:19
10. Idolatry: Exodus 22:20
11. Breaking the Sabbath / Profaning the Holy Sabbath: Exodus: 35:2
12. Adultery: Lev: 20:10
13. Incest: Lev 20:11-12
14. Sodomy: Exodus: 20:13
15. Marrying Mother and Daughter: Lev: 20:14
16. Blasphemy/ Treason: refusal to obey Gods law: Lev: 24:16
17. False Prophesy: Duet 13:1-5
18. Do not revile the priest or judges/ contempt of court: Duet 17:12-13
19. False witness or Perjury in a capital crime: Duet: 19:15-21
20. Incorrigible Delinquency / Juvenile: Exodus 21:18-21
21. Whoredom: Duet: 22: 13-21
22. Rape: Duet: 22: 25-27
23. Usury: Ezekiel: 18: 5-14
24. Oppressing Widows or Fatherless child: Exodus: 22: 22-24

A_Thinker · Dec 8, 2018

Well ... there certainly wouldn't be very many people left ...

com7fy8 · Dec 8, 2018

visionary said:
5. Abortion or Birth Control: Lev 20: 1-5

Leviticus 20:1-5

This says it is a capital offense to offer children to Molech.

It does not spell out that those could include unborn children, at least in my translation.

Are you saying there is scripture or historic scholarship which says this means that ones offered unborn children, also?

Circumcised_Heart · Dec 8, 2018

visionary said:
These are the 24 Offenses that require the Death Penalties in scripture:
1. Murder: Exodus 21:12, Exodus 21:14 Lev 24:17-21
2. Smiting your parents: Exodus 21:15
3. Kidnapping: Exodus 21:16 Deuteronomy 24:7
4. Cursing of Parents: Exodus 21:17
5. Abortion or Birth Control: Lev 20: 1-5
6. Negligent Property liability resulting in death: Exodus 21:28-29
7. Daylight killing of a thief: Exodus 22:2-38
8. Witchcraft: Exodus 22:18
9. inappropriate behavior with animals: Exodus 22:19
10. Idolatry: Exodus 22:20
11. Breaking the Sabbath / Profaning the Holy Sabbath: Exodus: 35:2
12. Adultery: Lev: 20:10
13. Incest: Lev 20:11-12
14. Sodomy: Exodus: 20:13
15. Marrying Mother and Daughter: Lev: 20:14
16. Blasphemy/ Treason: refusal to obey Gods law: Lev: 24:16
17. False Prophesy: Duet 13:1-5
18. Do not revile the priest or judges/ contempt of court: Duet 17:12-13
19. False witness or Perjury in a capital crime: Duet: 19:15-21
20. Incorrigible Delinquency / Juvenile: Exodus 21:18-21
21. Whoredom: Duet: 22: 13-21
22. Rape: Duet: 22: 25-27
23. Usury: Ezekiel: 18: 5-14
24. Oppressing Widows or Fatherless child: Exodus: 22: 22-24

Where the bible referred to someone being "cut off from among his people", I believe that also meant death. So there are a few other offences not listed that could result in the death penalty.

SkyWriting · Dec 8, 2018

visionary said:
These are the 24 Offenses that require the Death Penalties in scripture:
1. Murder: Exodus 21:12, Exodus 21:14 Lev 24:17-21
2. Smiting your parents: Exodus 21:15
3. Kidnapping: Exodus 21:16 Deuteronomy 24:7
4. Cursing of Parents: Exodus 21:17
5. Abortion or Birth Control: Lev 20: 1-5
6. Negligent Property liability resulting in death: Exodus 21:28-29
7. Daylight killing of a thief: Exodus 22:2-38
8. Witchcraft: Exodus 22:18
9. inappropriate behavior with animals: Exodus 22:19
10. Idolatry: Exodus 22:20
11. Breaking the Sabbath / Profaning the Holy Sabbath: Exodus: 35:2
12. Adultery: Lev: 20:10
13. Incest: Lev 20:11-12
14. Sodomy: Exodus: 20:13
15. Marrying Mother and Daughter: Lev: 20:14
16. Blasphemy/ Treason: refusal to obey Gods law: Lev: 24:16
17. False Prophesy: Duet 13:1-5
18. Do not revile the priest or judges/ contempt of court: Duet 17:12-13
19. False witness or Perjury in a capital crime: Duet: 19:15-21
20. Incorrigible Delinquency / Juvenile: Exodus 21:18-21
21. Whoredom: Duet: 22: 13-21
22. Rape: Duet: 22: 25-27
23. Usury: Ezekiel: 18: 5-14
24. Oppressing Widows or Fatherless child: Exodus: 22: 22-24

God has replaced these old laws with local, human laws.
Believe it or not!

A_Thinker · Dec 8, 2018

Circumcised_Heart said:
Where the bible referred to someone being "cut off from among his people", I believe that also meant death.

Off the top of my head ... I don't think so.

This would be, moreso, what happened to Cain ...

visionary · Dec 8, 2018

This is a "what if" thread. I can see all your protests. Just for a moment, envision the changes it would make to society, to the state of personal behavior and how we treat those around us.

expos4ever · Dec 8, 2018

Circumcised_Heart said:
Where the bible referred to someone being "cut off from among his people", I believe that also meant death. So there are a few other offences not listed that could result in the death penalty.

I think being cut off from the people means simply to be booted out, not killed.

Sparagmos · Dec 8, 2018

visionary said:
This is a "what if" thread. I can see all your protests. Just for a moment, envision the changes it would make to society, to the state of personal behavior and how we treat those around us.

I think it would result in tremendous corruption where those in power could use bribery to avoid prosecution and the laws would be enforced with the less fortunate. And people living in absolute fear everyday that someone would find out that they or their children had broken the law. And suffering due to the loss of family members executed for crimes.

Dkh587 · Dec 8, 2018

expos4ever said:
I think being cut off from the people means simply to be booted out, not killed.

Do a search on BlueLetterBible.org for “cut off” and you can see that its another way of saying destroyed.

This shows the Strong’s definition of cut off
Genesis 1:1 (KJV)

The first time it’s used, God refers to the flood water and said:

Genesis 9:11
And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

The flood waters didn’t boot people out, the flood destroyed them.

visionary · Dec 8, 2018

Sparagmos said:
I think it would result in tremendous corruption where those in power could use bribery to avoid prosecution and the laws would be enforced with the less fortunate. And people living in absolute fear everyday that someone would find out that they or their children had broken the law. And suffering due to the loss of family members executed for crimes.

You don't think that this will be a deterrent. With today's corruption at top in place, I can see what you are saying and you don't need these laws enforced to have the current laws enforced only on the less fortunate, as we can see from Obama, Clintons, etc.

Sparagmos · Dec 8, 2018

visionary said:
You don't think that this will be a deterrent. With today's corruption at top in place, I can see what you are saying and you don't need these laws enforced to have the current laws enforced only on the less fortunate, as we can see from Obama, Clintons, etc.

Goodness no! It is unjust to kill someone for many of the offenses listed. When you assign the death penalty to crimes a majority of the population has or will commit in their lifetime, the people would revolt against the injustice. This would cause a revolution IMO.

visionary · Dec 8, 2018

Sparagmos said:
Goodness no! It is unjust to kill someone for many of the offenses listed. When you assign the death penalty to crimes a majority of the population has or will commit in their lifetime, the people would revolt against the injustice. This would cause a revolution IMO.

You can have a start date, from this time forward, thus allowing time for people to learn the offenses and its penalty and to prepare to live a new life without committing them.

Sparagmos · Dec 8, 2018

visionary said:
You can have a start date, from this time forward, thus allowing time for people to learn the offenses and its penalty and to prepare to live a new life without committing them.

You actually think it is just to kill someone for cursing their parents or committing adultry? I think every kid curses their parents at some point. And adulterer includes lust for someone you aren’t married to. Pretty much everyone is guilty of that. And this would mean putting all non-Christians to death. Forget trying to save them, let’s just send them straight to hell!

visionary · Dec 8, 2018

Sparagmos said:
You actually think it is just to kill someone for cursing their parents or committing adultry? I think every kid curses their parents at some point. And adulterer includes lust for someone you aren’t married to. Pretty much everyone is guilty of that. And this would mean putting all non-Christians to death. Forget trying to save them, let’s just send them straight to hell!

You do realize that during the millenium, the laws are that strict? That is the reason for the millenium, gives people a chance to live fully within the laws of God. If you are making excuses now, thinking that they can not be overcome, then you will also have difficulty believing that Yeshua is right when He said "Go and sin no more"

JackRT · Dec 8, 2018

Circumcised_Heart said:
Where the bible referred to someone being "cut off from among his people", I believe that also meant death. So there are a few other offences not listed that could result in the death penalty.

In many tribal cultures exile or banishment was frequently a worse penalty than death. The person became a pariah that no one would have anything to do with in any way whatsoever.

John Bowen · Dec 8, 2018

This would go against God's supreme law of free will . Which allows people to do what ever they want then face the results of their actions .The only way some people or society can learn is by hitting rock bottom. Like in WW2 the world had to see what happens when you take hate to the ultimate level against a particular people with the Holocaust .

visionary · Dec 8, 2018

John Bowen said:
This would go against God's supreme law of free will . Which allows people to do what ever they want then face the results of their actions .The only way some people or society can learn is by hitting rock bottom. Like in WW2 the world had to see what happens when you take hate to the ultimate level against a particular people with the Holocaust .

Explain... how do you get the idea that free will is God's supreme law?

John Bowen · Dec 8, 2018

Jesus demonstrated it to all of humanity by letting himself be crucified as he said " I could call on the Father and he would send angels " but that would have gone against the free will of the Jewish leaders who condemned him to death ." Resist not evil " he told us by doing that we allow the Christ to bring judgment on the evil doers and God will repay in kind so that " The meek shall inherit the earth ".Instead of what the devil wants people to do and fight evil which prolongs evil .

visionary · Dec 8, 2018

John Bowen said:
Jesus demonstrated it to all of humanity by letting himself be crucified as he said " I could call on the Father and he would send angels " but that would have gone against the free will of the Jewish leaders who condemned him to death ." Resist not evil " he told us by doing that we allow the Christ to bring judgment on the evil doers and God will repay in kind so that " The meek shall inherit the earth ".Instead of what the devil wants people to do and fight evil which prolongs evil .

Yet he gave government the power to rule and judge and execute the judgment.

What a world this would be in these laws were enforced.

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