Could King David be raised up for the Jews decades before second coming of Jesus?

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This is the verse.
"But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them." (Jeremiah 30:9)

This will literally come to pass . There will be a man who rules over Israel and who is recognised as a type of King David, practically the same. However, he will not reign over Israel before Jesus returns but will however be recognised by some of the Jews and Christians as a great leader. This man also goes by many other names that the Bible prophesies about. He is also known as the Elijah to come - one of the two witnesses and he is also known as John the Baptist who is come.

Some of the Jews will see him as their King David and others as Elijah too - who many Jews are expecting too.

Towards the end of the tribulation He will be killed along with he other witness Moses and they will be resurrected before the whole World. After a short while Jesus will return at His second coming with these two men and the 144.000. Then Elijah and Moses will sit next to Jesus, Elijah at His right and Moses at His left and they will rule over Israel and the Earth for the 1000 year reign.

In my opinion this is a truly excellent response to this question!

I am truly impressed with what you have came to understand on this topic!
 
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You may be interested in Goggling the words....."Moshiach ben Yosef" or "Moshiach ben Ephrayim" or "Messiah son of Joseph."

The Yair Davidiy article on the subject is quite exceptional, especially in the light of the election of President Donald Trump.
 
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Now with both President Donald Trump and P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu basically in favour of a Jerusalem Third Temple this question becomes much more relevant again.
Yes it is coming soon.
 
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Yes it is coming soon.

Do you think that it could be in place before the year 2030, the 2000 year anniversary of the death, burial and resurrection of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.
 
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There is a prophecy that 2017 would be extremely significant in the restoration of the tribes of Israel.

I believe that then fifteen year old Israeli Natan who had a near death experience in 2015 should be seriously considered to sit on the throne of King David..... to keep it warm for him..... until he is fully raised up............ whatever it is that that means?!
 
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There is a prophecy that 2017 would be extremely significant in the restoration of the tribes of Israel.

I believe that then fifteen year old Israeli Natan who had a near death experience in 2015 should be seriously considered to sit on the throne of King David..... to keep it warm for him..... until he is fully raised up............ whatever it is that that means?!

Does it not depend on what one puts into the word "Throne",

It could just as well mean, "seat" as in "seat of justice"

Psalms 97:2b hints there is a greater meaning,
......Justice and mercy will be the Foundation of His throne.

When justice and mercy rules, there will be no need to wonder if or when He will come,

We will know.

Would reckon.
 
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Failed to find any reference to 2017 in that verse.

It is not exactly in that verse..... it is in the prophecy of Rabbi Judah ben Samuel for 2017........
and if the prophecy from Judah ben Samuel is correct / inspired... the some sort of significant move toward the fulfillment of that verse must happen this year........(and since this year is a bit different to most Christians and Jews who have a different calendar.... the year 2017 can be defined quite differently).......

Please pray about my suggestion that seventeen year old Israeli near death experiencer Natan be
considered for the office of regent....... for King David.... to sit on the Throne of King David in his stead.... .until David is full raised up!

"But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them." (Jeremiah 30:9)
 
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I'm not one for prophecies, personally...

Considering how we Christians and Jews treated people who term themselves "pagan" over the last four thousand years..... and especially over the last fifteen hundred years.......
I can't blame you for being less than thrilled with the trend for Christians and Jews to become more interested in "prophecy."


One of the brilliant acts of us Christians in Europe during the dark ages was to virtually wipe out house cats..... .which played a huge role in setting the stage for various plagues.


As I am sure you can guess.... we Christians did this because we felt that cats were useful as familiars to witches!

I am a Christian / Messianic Gentile and although it is indeed a small act.... I would like to state to you that i am really sorry for the millions of ways in which we Christians DID NOT learn from the example of ancient King Cyrus of Persia.... who was recognized as an "anointed king / Moshiach" by the Jewish people..... by Isaiah the Prophet..... and therefore by any Christians who would have a good understanding of Isaiah chapters 42 - 46!

King Cyrus not only decreed the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple but also gave freedom of religion in all 127 provinces of the Medo - Persian Empire.
 
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That's not exactly what we envision. We envision the movement towards world peace and the growth of the Baha'i community as parallel movements, not that everyone becoming Baha'i will bring about world peace. We refer to the former as the Lesser Peace. The emergence of a Baha'i Commonwealth would be the Most Great Peace, but that will likely take hundreds of years if not more.

What do you personally think of this moves by the Jerusalem Sanhedrin?

Will Ba'hai's be accepting this invitation?


Sanhedrin Invites 70 Nations to Hanukkah Dedication of Altar for the Third Temple
 
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I have yet to see anyone raised after having been dead for thousands of years. At best you might be able to clone the person if you come across some of their DNA. I understand that it's supposed to be "supernatural" but I haven't seen it done supernaturally either nor have I come across any real evidence of such a thing having taken place in the past. It doesn't seem very probable at all.

Maybe your talking reincarnation instead though? I don't think such a thing takes place but I can't rule it out all together. I would say it's rather improbable given what I do know about the relation of complex mind to a functioning brain though. How would ones experience of personal subjectivity go from one brain to another?

You and I can take a CD or DVD.... erase it.... and record a different movie or film on it.......

Could G-d make a duplicate of the soul of Elijah...... take away most memories..... and then put that duplicate and place it into the physical body of John the Baptist at birth?????????/

I think that G-d can do pretty much whatever G-d wishes......... I think that G-d technological capability is much greater than ours.


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But what went ye out to see? a man clothed in soft [raiment]? Behold, they that wear soft [raiment] are in king's houses.

9 But wherefore went ye out? to see a prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet.

10 This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Who shall prepare thy way before thee.

11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not arisen a greater than John the Baptist: yet he that is but little in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and men of violence take it by force.

13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

14 And if ye are willing to receive [it,] this is Elijah, that is to come.

15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
 
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Is this "Sanhedrin" accepted as such by the Chief Rabbinate? In any case, Baha'is are not a nation.

I do believe so...... and although the Bahai' community may not be a nation in one sense.... their being there could be quite important anyway.
 
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I do believe so...... and although the Bahai' community may not be a nation in one sense.... their being there could be quite important anyway.
Can you find a reference to this particular 'sanhedrin' in a non-evangelical Jewish or Israeli source like the Jerusalem Post?
 
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