Which sacraments of other denominations do you accept?

Paidiske said:

I say that in the earliest church women were not barred from leadership and teaching roles, and that it took time for a settled three-fold order of ministry to develop. By the time that was more settled women were also being excluded; but that was not the earliest practice.

Actually Anglicans ordained our first woman as a priest in 1944, which is hardly late 20th century, although I take your point that it is relatively recent.

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Tangible said:

Lutherans generally agree that any baptism done using the Trinitarian formula is a valid baptism. Exceptions would be Mormon baptisms, for example, which are done using the words of the Trinitarian formula, but the doctrines behind the words are beyond the limits of orthodox Christianity.

Lutherans generally also agree that a church's Eucharist is valid if it confesses the real presence of the body and blood of Our Lord in the Sacrament. Altar fellowship is another matter with some Lutheran bodies requiring baptism or nothing, and others requiring full doctrinal agreement.

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Dan the deacon said:

Fortunately your group does not ordain females as priests. I believe this is purely Episcopalian. Not christian.

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Dan the deacon said:

I believe only Anglicans ordain women as priest am I correct on that point? I do know many evangelical groups do ordain pastors who are female bit that is nothing close to the priesthood.

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Paidiske said:

The question of how comparable being an Anglican priest is to being an evangelical pastor is interesting, and not simple. I'd argue that we both exercise a form of eldership (in NT terms) but that the specifics of that vary according to our denominational context.

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PloverWing said:

This could be an interesting conversation to have, perhaps as a separate thread, assuming we could conduct ourselves with respect towards one another. How do the different denominations view their clergy, and how do clergy in the different denominations view their own mission and ministries?

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PloverWing said:

Like seeking.IAM, I read this at first as saying that Episcopalians weren't Christians. I also heard the phrase "purely Episcopalian" to be saying that only Episcopalians have female clergy -- when, of course, there are many Protestant denominations that ordain women (Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, UCC, Baptists, etc. -- in each case, the non-conservative branches of these denominations).

But on re-reading, I connected it back to your earlier post:



So I think you're saying that the only Christian groups that ordains women and that also calls their clergy members "priests" are the Anglican groups in various countries. I think this is close to correct, though I understand that the Lutheran churches in the Porvoo Communion also have a threefold ministry of bishops/priests/deacons. (This includes the Churches of Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland, along with a few others.)

Looking back through the thread, I found this comment:



This could be an interesting conversation to have, perhaps as a separate thread, assuming we could conduct ourselves with respect towards one another. How do the different denominations view their clergy, and how do clergy in the different denominations view their own mission and ministries?

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seeking.IAM said:

I think the only difference between a female UMC Protestant pastor and a female Episcopalian Priest, for example, is the word chosen to name our clergy. Both are theologically trained and have gone through an ordination process. Is it not merely semantics?

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