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And P.S. Stop any sex whatsoever with him. First of all, really it's not Biblical. 2nd, as someone said above, as long as he is getting sex, why get married with his attitude. There is an old saying, "Why buy the cow when you are getting the milk for free?
 
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No. He is NOT a good Christian. He sounds like a narcissist. They always turn any complaint around to the accuser; making them the bad guy and justifying themselves and their actions.

A good Christian would see their own sins and shortcomings when pointed out and repent.
I agree... he can't find the right church to call home and forgive me @TheChgz but he doesn't seem able to find a wife, either. He is getting what he wants without having to give all of himself in the process. 7 years.... it's time to put up or shut up... marry or leave!
 
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he convinced me to become a Christian. So I became one, and now I want to do right for Jesus. He is a good guy and is probably more devout than he looks on the outside. I think he is just a little misguided.

it sounds like you're in a tough position

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pray for guidance and knowledge and put this in God's hands
if the father of your child sees you reading the Bible, praying, and teaching your child, maybe he will step up to his role in leading and find a church to attend

2)
have you asked him why you two have not married yet?
does he fear marriage? did his parents divorce?
try to find out why he's reluctant without putting pressure on him
 
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Any 24 year old man who sleeps with a 16 year old girl was a creep from the start. I know that sounds harsh, but it's true. He took advantage of you back then, and he's still doing it now. I don't know what the law is where you live, but in most places in the U.S a 16 year old can't legally consent to sex. High school girls don't have the maturity to make that decision with a boy their own age, much less a grown man who should know not to fool around with a teenager. It sounds like it started with him wanting to have some fun with you and then it never stopped because no real commitment ocurred.
 
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We met when I was 16 and he was 24 (I'm now 24 and he 32). We pretty much fell in love at first sight. I didn't want to date him at first because of the age gap, but after a few months, it became too irresistible to refuse his advances. We were head over heels for each other. I wanted to save myself for marriage, but I gave into peer pressure when our classmates poked fun at us because we "hadn't done it yet".

Six months later, I found out I was pregnant. Even though we felt it was too soon, we saw it as a blessing. The night we found out, we were laying in bed and he whispered: "I suppose we should get married then". My reply was yes, even though I was hesitant. I expected us to tie the not before I gave birth and I felt it a little too soon. But I would rather do the right thing than wait.

Every time I tried to bring the subject up though, he would tell me to stop talking about it. The more I talked about it the more "stressed" he felt and "the less likely it was for him to do it". So I bit my tongue. As hard as it was for me, I stopped talking about it, assuming it would only be for a year. It was very hard for me, the longer it went on the more and more excitement built up.

Years later I hardly even think about it anymore. When I do I feel nothing but sadness. I want more than anything to just get married but he still acts the same when I bring it up. He says he will just surprise me one day and we will just do it. But I feel like I should just give up hope. I almost want to just find somebody else to marry! All I want is to be made an honest girl. It's tough.
it sounds like you're playing marriage without actually being marriage, so what motivation does he have to actually get married? spend a bunch of money so you can act the same way you been acting for years? Stop having sex, stop sleeping in the same room, stop playing marriage and see how quick he will get on a knee.
 
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I want more than anything to just get married but he still acts the same when I bring it up.
If after seven years he's still ambivalent about getting married, I'd guess that he's not interested. I realize this wouldn't work for everyone, but for me, if I wanted to get married, I would stop wasting my time pining away for someone who doesn't and start looking elsewhere.
 
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it sounds like you're playing marriage without actually being marriage, so what motivation does he have to actually get married? spend a bunch of money so you can act the same way you been acting for years? Stop having sex, stop sleeping in the same room, stop playing marriage and see how quick he will get on a knee.
The temptation to have sex would be strong, probably, if they are in the same home. I would say have him live elsewhere.
 
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The temptation to have sex would be strong, probably, if they are in the same home. I would say have him live elsewhere.
I understand some things may not be very feasible especially with shared incomes but separate homes is certainly going to motive a wedding.
 
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We met when I was 16 and he was 24 (I'm now 24 and he 32). We pretty much fell in love at first sight. I didn't want to date him at first because of the age gap, but after a few months, it became too irresistible to refuse his advances. We were head over heels for each other. I wanted to save myself for marriage, but I gave into peer pressure when our classmates poked fun at us because we "hadn't done it yet".

Are you still "doing it"? Have you just thrown all restraint aside and have sex whenever you like? Or are you living to honor God and so refuse to have any further sexual activity with your boyfriend before marriage? I can't imagine the fellow you describe as your boyfriend would put up with seven years of celibacy. Am I right?

Every time I tried to bring the subject up though, he would tell me to stop talking about it. The more I talked about it the more "stressed" he felt and "the less likely it was for him to do it". So I bit my tongue. As hard as it was for me, I stopped talking about it, assuming it would only be for a year. It was very hard for me, the longer it went on the more and more excitement built up.

Sorry to use a rough farming analogy, but if your boyfriend is "getting the milk for free," he has no need to "buy the cow." It seems your boyfriend - who is clearly a "taker" - has found himself a very willing "giver." You're going to find yourself one day drained of all you have to give and then, well, your boyfriend will find another "giver" to drain.

Years later I hardly even think about it anymore. When I do I feel nothing but sadness. I want more than anything to just get married but he still acts the same when I bring it up. He says he will just surprise me one day and we will just do it. But I feel like I should just give up hope. I almost want to just find somebody else to marry! All I want is to be made an honest girl. It's tough.

Well, your relationship certainly isn't following God's design. It's no surprise, then, that it's what it is. Frankly, I don't think your boyfriend is marriage material. After seven years of stalling, he's made it very clear that he doesn't really want to be married. Have you been living together all this time? Doing so caters to your boyfriend's desire to remain free of concrete marriage commitments while obtaining all the benefits of a marriage relationship. Why wouldn't he do so indefinitely, if he can? As I said, why buy the cow when you don't have to - or, it seems, even want to?

(P.S - I am not calling you a cow. It's just the nature of the farming analogy.)
 
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Dump him, focus on raising your child, tell him when he wants to get serious about marriage he knows where to find you. You may meet someone else, you may not; focus on your child.

I would caution a bit on that.

The worst thing you can teach your children, is that they are the center of the universe.
Also, once someone gets their mind into a child-centered mentality, this is why 2nd, 3rd and 4th marriages have a 60%-90% divorce rate. No marriage can survive if one person or the other, is in a child-centered mindset.

Just a caution. That's all.
 
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Seems the dynamic of the relationship isn't healthy, but I'm not going to suggest dumping him. You've been wanting to marry him, and you've started a family together, it wouldn't make sense to me if a girlfriend wanted to marry me, then dump me for not marrying her. I mean, did she really love me enough to want to marry me if she's going to discard me like that? That may be how he would process it, and you would be making yourself (more of) a single mother by getting him out of the picture.

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Take this with a grain of salt, but consider a sex strike until you get married. Sleep in different beds, even. That will force his hand to either marry you, or leave you. Don't make marrying you a hard option if you do this. Don't insist on renting a chapel and getting the families together. Let going to the courthouse and doing the bare minimum be enough. That is going to remove any legitimate barriers he may have to marrying you if the relationship is good (not that I'm saying it is good).

Before you do marry him though, you need to look at fundamental things that may have been overlooked in the relationship, like is he abusive or disrespectful or unreliable or irresponsible. Does he have problems staying employed or paying the bills? That sort of thing. Speaking of:

We have never attended a church together. He has explained it as such, he feels like he wants to find a good church with a pastor/priest he trusts. I have looked around locally for the best church I can find, but none of the options has satisfied him. He is the kind of person that talks about what he wants and how he wants it, and if anybody tries to get him to do anything else he shuts himself away. He has to do everything on his own terms or not at all.
Do you really want to be married to that for the rest of your life?
 
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Don't let me make him sound bad though. He is a good guy...
No my dear, he's not. Dump that chump.

And he talks about how "we are married in the eyes of God".
Oh please, that's a totally self-serving load of crap. What a douche - if he really thought that he'd have married you years ago.

Dump him.
 
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I would caution a bit on that.

The worst thing you can teach your children, is that they are the center of the universe.
Also, once someone gets their mind into a child-centered mentality, this is why 2nd, 3rd and 4th marriages have a 60%-90% divorce rate. No marriage can survive if one person or the other, is in a child-centered mindset.

Just a caution. That's all.


?AND that's not what I meant...... I meant that her child should come first over trying to find a man right now or continuing in sin with a man that won't marry her. Priorities . .....she is teaching her child about marriage and relationships and honoring God with how she responds to this situation .
 
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If I was you... I would:
First, tell him that you have decided that sex outside of marriage is not biblical. That you have decided to get back to biblical values and therefore, no more sex till marriage. You are not married in the eyes of God.

Second, If he doesn't like that, you will have to seek legal council to separate.

Third, Start going to church without him. Take your child and start this young person on a good habit of attending a place of worship and meeting other children with similar upbringing.

Fourth, and this is important... research the "Spirit of Jezebel". This is very very important as I believe you are living with someone who is under this influence.
 
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My advice is to tell him: Find a church and start attending and marry me NOW. If he does not, then leave him and find someone else.

(Except) for the (last sentence) good advice.

These two have already been yoked together since they had sex and a baby. I can think of no church that would recommend this lady to leave.

True, it is time for her to stand her ground in regards to marriage and hopefully going to church if not with him then without him.

He might tag along later to church?

These things happen often when we don't follow Gods advise. No sex before marriage.

This old guy has finally realized that for all sin there will be a price to pay.

I know because I am still paying for some from over 50 years ago.

Key is to repent and try my best not to sin today and add to the wreckage of my past.

M-Bob
 
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