Secular Science Thinks Billions Of Planets Have Sentient Life. So Why Haven't They/We Made Contact?

Aman777 · Dec 4, 2018

Aman:>>They erroneously assume that there are many kinds when there are only two kinds in Genesis. One kind is Their kind or the kind which is created ETERNALLY by the Trinity. The other kind is His kind or the kind which is subject to death and which was created temporarily by Jesus/Lord God.

The Barbarian said:
That's a spiritual definition. And it might well be true; although God doesn't say for sure that animals don't have immortal souls, there is good reason for believing that they don't. On the other hand, we are physically one kind with the other living things of this world.

Genesis 1:21 shows that God the Trinity created "every living creature that moveth" from water. Science shows that LUCA, from which all things on Earth descended, came forth from water. This happened on the 5th Day, which was 3.8 billion years ago, in man's time. Scripture and Science AGREE that all creatures came forth from water exactly as God told us more than 3k years ago. Since God the Trinity "created" them, they are destined to be in God's perfect Heaven. They are THEIR kinds.
Meet Luca, the Ancestor of All Living Things - The New York Times
Meet Luca, the Ancestor of All Living Things

Aman:>>If one knows the difference, it becomes obvious that Humans (descendants of Adam) or HIS kinds are NOT the same as the sons of God (prehistoric people) who are THEIR kinds. IOW, Humans did NOT evolve from prehistoric people whose origin was in Water. Humans were made by the Hands of Jesus from the dust Genesis 2:4-7 long BEFORE any other living creature.

The Barbarian said:
That's an ingenious notion, but I don't think it works very well, considering we are genetically related to all other living things on Earth. Unless God just rigged it to look like we were descended from other organisms.

That is because our Human blood was contaminated by the blood of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who descended from WATER. (LUCA) What the 7.4 billion living descendants of Adam (Humans) have which separates them from ALL other living creatures, is that Adam was made with the superior intelligence of God. Genesis 3:22

God didn't rig anything. Noah's grandsons married and produced children with the million or so prehistoric women who were already here when the Ark arrived 11k years ago. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE Since Noah's grandsons did NOT have ANY other Humans to marry, this also fulfills the prophecy of Genesis 6:4. God's Truth is the Truth in every way. Amen?

Aman777 · Dec 4, 2018

The Barbarian said:
Show us those.

Sure. I just posted one which shows that God told us more than 3k years ago that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from Water exactly as Science discovered 2 years ago. Meet Luca, the Ancestor of All Living Things

Another is that Genesis shows that the beginning of our universe was on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4 along with other Universes/Heavens. The first universe (Adam's) was made on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:8 What is interesting is that there is a time period between the time of the Big Bang and the lighting of the FIRST Stars on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 Science discovered this year, that it was some 180 million years between the BB and the FIRST Stars lighting up. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/.../first-stars-universe-big-bang-edges-space-scie...Feb 28, 2018 -

I have many more and NO one has ever been able to refute these Truths which could only have been authored by God, more than 3k years ago. It's empirical (testable) evidence of the literal God. Amen?

FrumiousBandersnatch · Dec 5, 2018

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
You surely can't be that naive. For those that take it seriously, there's a booming market for luxury bunkers and even bunker towns. There may be some who don't care because they won't be around, and others who think their little contribution is negligible and someone else will do something to stop it.

I missed out the ecologically aware ones that will buy carbon credits to cover their emissions.

DogmaHunter · Dec 5, 2018

jamesbond007 said:
Creation scientists usually try not to assume

That is absolutely HILARIOUS, because their entire "job" consists of drawing the bullseye around the arrow.

Their entire basis of their beliefs, is nothing but assumption. Faith-based assumption, even.

Case in point: their websites have a "testament of faith": they start from the bible and any evidence or data that doesn't agree with their bible, is automatically labeled incorrect.

Their entire "job" is to assume things, to pretend to have the answers before even asking the questions.

Also, there's no such thing as "creaiton scientists". These people don't do science. They do religion and try to disguise it in a cheap lab coat.

Obviously, you and atheist scientists have no qualms about making plenty of assumptions haha.

What assumptions?
And what about all the theistic scientists that have no problems with mainstream science and who actively contribute to it?

The fact is that that purely based on the scientific work itself, you can't actually tell if the author is an atheist or a theist.

It is the truth based on Genesis and what was believed by scientists before the 1850s.

1. genesis is religion
2. there's a reason why they stopped believing it. That reason is scientific progress.

Creation scientists founded the scientific method and modern science.

LOL!

You do not sound like you know what science is.

Says the guy who appeals to religion while pretending that is science.

What I learned was science was about arguments.

Wrong. Science is about data and explanatory models that explain said data and predict more data.

As I've stated many times, the secular or atheist scientists have seized power and have eliminated God, the supernatural and the Bible from science.

It's like you are completely unaware of scientists who are also theists.

Ever heared of Francis Collins? You can read what he thinks about evolution in my signature. He's a pretty devout christian.

So, the evidence is no aliens, but something in the atheist religion makes you have faith that it's the opposite.

This has been explained and corrected so many times, I wonder how you still dare to repeat it. Aren't you embarassed to keep repeating the same falsehoods, even after they have been corrcted multiple times already?

What do you hope to accomplish with this dishonest strawman?

ps: also, if you apply this logic to aliens, you should also apply it to gods. So by your very own logic, the evidence is "no gods". You may begin your special pleading and double standards argument now.

You and anything living would die instantly out in space.

Instantly, ha?
So how did Armstrong and the others survive their trip to the moon? How do astronauts survive weeks, months even, in the ISS?

Even the heartiest bacteria cannot survive space as we have ascertained in this thread.

Ever heared of extremofiles?

jamesbond007 · Dec 5, 2018

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
They survived long enough to produce viable offspring on their return.

But they wouldn't survive either out in space. They returned to earth which is my point. There's no place like home said Dorothy.

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
The creatures survived the cosmic radiation, Van Allen belt radiation, and as much of the solar wind as they were exposed to.

Nope. The evidence is on Mars or the other planets without a magnetic field. I'm not sure if we can survive on the moon for that long. That's why I'm interested in the Russians, Chinese and other countries planning to go to the moon to set up refueling stations. A gigantic 7-11 on the moon for weary space travelers.

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
A planet with similar conditions to those of the early Earth would be a likely candidate. But there's no reason yet to rule out life that is different from life on Earth.

There are no other. We've gone over this with fine tuning facts. It seems you end up going in circles which means you are lost.

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
You're wrong about that as far as I'm concerned.

So you are one who admits Earth is special? That it's not mediocre in terms of life sustainability? To the contrary, it was suppose to be perfect at one time. To exist forever. Now, we live in entropy.

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
You're wrong about that too. As I understand it, the chances of runaway global warming of the kind that happened on Venus is remote (and even on Venus, microbial life could live in the cloud tops). But the disruption resulting from unrestricted global warming could potentially kill billions, destroy ecosystems, and seriously threaten current civilisations.

How can microbial life live on the cloud tops? Please explain.

Where else has runaway CO2 killed? To the contrary, plants and dinosaurs thrived in it.

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
You surely can't be that naive. For those that take it seriously, there's a booming market for luxury bunkers and even bunker towns. There may be some who don't care because they won't be around, and others who think their little contribution is negligible and someone else will do something to stop it.

Those people are the suckers who will go for the luxury space stations. You aren't addressing my question as people do not take global warming seriously. Just admit that is the reason why you want to live on other planets. It's tied to the aliens mentality. If aliens can live out there on another planet, then so can we.

jamesbond007 · Dec 5, 2018

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
It's not unusual on these forums for believers to deny the evidence they're presented with.

Don't be silly; I said I think there's high probability of life elsewhere in the universe. That doesn't mean I have evidence of aliens.

I have to laugh at this. Isn't it you and the atheist scientists who are denying the evidence? I rebutted what little evidence that you presented.

Who has the mountain of observable evidence? There have been no aliens. Not even a microbe. Space is not conducive to life. The fine tuning facts made atheist scientists make up the multiverses.

Basically, you have no evidence of aliens because God did not create aliens. He created the Earth and its inhabitants. Now, we have to understand why he stretches the universe? I think he was upset that we do not believe. This is because he was there and we weren't. No person can be as faithful as Job. “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone — while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?" Job 38: 4-7

"It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in." Isaiah 40:22

Put this in your pipe and smoke it. God told us that the universe was flat and like a scroll, i.e. it has a boundary and curls (up?) at the edges. Isn't that what we find with our high powered telescopes? Yet, the atheist scientists believe that it goes on forever and there is no boundaries. We've discovered the universe is flat. Science backs up the Bible.

Furthermore, creation scientists think we should use plasma in space in order to travel at high rates of speed, so we will be able to speed about the stars.

The Barbarian · Dec 5, 2018

Aman777 said:
Sure. I just posted one which shows that God told us more than 3k years ago that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from Water exactly as Science discovered 2 years ago. Meet Luca, the Ancestor of All Living Things

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/science/last-universal-ancestor.html

Except that Genesis says birds came from the air and beasts from the earth. Now, it's becoming increasingly clear that living things came from all three, but birds didn't pop out of the air.

Another is that Genesis shows that the beginning of our universe was on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/gen/2/4/s_2004

Doesn't say that. Water was already there at the beginning. So that's out. Genesis is highly figurative, and speaks to us of categories of creation, not a temporal sequence.

Aman777 · Dec 5, 2018

The Barbarian said:
Except that Genesis says birds came from the air and beasts from the earth. Now, it's becoming increasingly clear that living things came from all three, but birds didn't pop out of the air.

I use the KJV because it is the less altered.

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

God the Trinity created and brought forth from WATER, every living creature that moves, including winged fowls which were created to match the fowl made by Jesus or His kind and which were named by Adam. Genesis 2:19 Remember this post?

Aman777 said:
They erroneously assume that there are many kinds when there are only two kinds in Genesis. One kind is Their kind or the kind which is created ETERNALLY by the Trinity. The other kind is His kind or the kind which is subject to death and which was created temporarily by Jesus/Lord God.

Without knowing the difference between kinds leaves one in the darkness when it comes to understanding Genesis. What this verse tells us is that God the Trinity created the beasts of the field and birds, which are destined to live eternally in Heaven, even though Jesus made them temporarily from the dust of the ground to be the common ancestors of others creatures of His kind.

Aman777 said:
Another is that Genesis shows that the beginning of our universe was on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4

The Barbarian said:
Doesn't say that. Water was already there at the beginning. So that's out. Genesis is highly figurative, and speaks to us of categories of creation, not a temporal sequence.

Such thinking is what keeps people following the theology of ancient men. Here is the verse I posted:

Gen 2:4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Lord God is YHWH/Jesus. God the Trinity made one Heaven on the 2nd Day. Genesis 1:8 The above verse is speaking of other HeavenS (plural) which were made on the 3rd Day, by Jesus, on the SAME Day Adam's Earth was made. Genesis 1:10

Lord Jesus made two temporary Heavens. He made our Universe/Heaven and He also made Adam's world. Remember that Jesus always creates Temporarily which means that both Heavens Jesus made are subject to death and total destruction.

Adam's world was totally dissolved in the waters of a flood. 2 Peter 3:6
The present world will be totally dissolved in Fire. 2 Peter 3:10

Are you beginning to see the difference between the invisible Spirit of God the Trinity and the only God ever formed physically, YHWH/Jesus? Jhn 1:3 All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.

FrumiousBandersnatch · Dec 5, 2018

jamesbond007 said:
But they wouldn't survive either out in space. They returned to earth which is my point. There's no place like home said Dorothy.

I wasn't suggesting that life can survive indefinitely in space, if that's what you thought.

There are no other. We've gone over this with fine tuning facts.

Life is fine-tuned to Earth conditions (and has itself changed them). Very few organisms alive today could survive in the conditions that early organisms thrived in.

Nope. The evidence is on Mars or the other planets without a magnetic field.

Many Earth organisms could live quite happily on Mars - but, as I said previously, not on the surface.

So you are one who admits Earth is special? That it's not mediocre in terms of life sustainability?

It's special in being the only planet in the solar system to support such rich and varied ecosystems, special in that it's the only place for light years that's habitable for life as we know it - but that doesn't mean it's the only planet that can support life as we know it, or the only one that supports life of any sort. It's not possible to say that - especially as we've found a surprising number of planets that are likely to have liquid water, the key requirement for life as we know it.

To the contrary, it was suppose to be perfect at one time. To exist forever. Now, we live in entropy.

Entropy has been increasing, overall, since the big bang. Steep entropy gradients facilitate the emergence of complexity and life itself. We couldn't survive without them.

How can microbial life live on the cloud tops? Please explain.

Several studies of the Venusian atmosphere have suggested that the lower cloud layers (not the tops, my mistake) would be suitable for microbial life, because of the moderate temperatures and pressures and sulphuric acid aerosols. For example, here's a recent study considering how we might detect such life.

Where else has runaway CO2 killed? To the contrary, plants and dinosaurs thrived in it.

Plants and dinosaurs didn't experience a runaway greenhouse effect, just a higher concentration than today's (and a lower solar input).

Those people are the suckers who will go for the luxury space stations.

I doubt we'll be able to build luxury space stations if global warming isn't addressed.

You aren't addressing my question as people do not take global warming seriously.

What question - why people don't take it seriously? presumably, because they don't care, or don't believe the science.

Just admit that is the reason why you want to live on other planets.

I don't want to live on other planets. It may be a last-ditch means of preventing human extinction, but in terms of human survival, I think we should ensure this planet stays habitable as long as possible.

If aliens can live out there on another planet, then so can we.

We could live on other planets, such as Mars, but it would be a struggle requiring habitats with an artificial environment. We have no chance of getting to other Earth-like planets in the foreseeable future. Any aliens 'out there' will have evolved on whatever planet they're on, which may not be habitable for us, so it doesn't follow that if they can live there we can too.

Aman777 · Dec 5, 2018

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
We could live on other planets, such as Mars, but it would be a struggle requiring habitats with an artificial environment. We have no chance of getting to other Earth-like planets in the foreseeable future.

Not so, since Jesus will return before then. Can you tell us what Humans, with perfect bodies, will do for the thousand years, Rev 20:6 of the reign of Jesus on this Earth? Answer: we will travel this universe by using our ability to move from one Galaxy to another by speaking it into being. It's God's perfect transportation system.
Mar 11:23 Amen?

jamesbond007 · Dec 5, 2018

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
I wasn't suggesting that life can survive indefinitely in space, if that's what you thought.

Life is fine-tuned to Earth conditions (and has itself changed them). Very few organisms alive today could survive in the conditions that early organisms thrived in.

Many Earth organisms could live quite happily on Mars - but, as I said previously, not on the surface.

It's special in being the only planet in the solar system to support such rich and varied ecosystems, special in that it's the only place for light years that's habitable for life as we know it - but that doesn't mean it's the only planet that can support life as we know it, or the only one that supports life of any sort. It's not possible to say that - especially as we've found a surprising number of planets that are likely to have liquid water, the key requirement for life as we know it.

Entropy has been increasing, overall, since the big bang. Steep entropy gradients facilitate the emergence of complexity and life itself. We couldn't survive without them.

Several studies of the Venusian atmosphere have suggested that the lower cloud layers (not the tops, my mistake) would be suitable for microbial life, because of the moderate temperatures and pressures and sulphuric acid aerosols. For example, here's a recent study considering how we might detect such life.

Plants and dinosaurs didn't experience a runaway greenhouse effect, just a higher concentration than today's (and a lower solar input).

I doubt we'll be able to build luxury space stations if global warming isn't addressed.

What question - why people don't take it seriously? presumably, because they don't care, or don't believe the science.

I don't want to live on other planets. It may be a last-ditch means of preventing human extinction, but in terms of human survival, I think we should ensure this planet stays habitable as long as possible.

We could live on other planets, such as Mars, but it would be a struggle requiring habitats with an artificial environment. We have no chance of getting to other Earth-like planets in the foreseeable future. Any aliens 'out there' will have evolved on whatever planet they're on, which may not be habitable for us, so it doesn't follow that if they can live there we can too.

Too much misconception here to rebut. So let's stick with the first one that relates to the topic. Tardigrades, other bacteria and microbes cannot survive in space nor can they live beneath the surface in space. We know from exploring Mars.

So what have I been leading to and trying to get you and the other atheists and atheist scientists here to realize? First, we have no aliens. Then we find that no life can exist in space and beneath the surface due to solar wind. It means no panspermia. The things that atheist scientists hypothesize and theorize about space is not true. These scientists spend their whole lives on something and come up with nothing. Look what happened to Stephen Hawking. He's the guy I learned the Big Bang Theory from. He had the Nobel Prize in the bag for Hawking Radiation. He had the "C" and the "T" and had to spell cat. However, he could not put together how cosmic inflation could happen. He theorized it started with a single point of singularity in quantum mechanics. Let's give him the "near" infinite temperature and density for singularity. Then comes the microsecond after the huge expansion starts. This is the microsecond after his Big Bang. What happened? Classical physics or God got in his way. Not only that, cosmic inflation is impossible. He died trying to show the origins of the universe and failed. His last words were "We live in the Matrix." (which is probably right, but are you taking the red or blue pill?) Science can be a cruel mistress. All this time, you've been believing in pseudoscience.

Stephen Hawking's Last Words: We Live In 'The Matrix'?

jamesbond007 · Dec 5, 2018

I just want to add this. I'm not saying quantum mechanics or quantum physics is pseudoscience. I'm saying what Stephen Hawking was trying to show in his last paper is pseudoscience. He was trying to create the universe from nothing. He was trying to play God. What else was his last paper trying to do?

Before his last days, I think he sat in lectures on multiverses from several famous atheist scientists. Those guys covered other universes from nothing eh?

FrumiousBandersnatch · Dec 5, 2018

jamesbond007 said:
I have to laugh at this. Isn't it you and the atheist scientists who are denying the evidence? I rebutted what little evidence that you presented.

Denial is not rebuttal.

Who has the mountain of observable evidence? There have been no aliens. Not even a microbe. Space is not conducive to life.

Who claimed any of that?

The fine tuning facts made atheist scientists make up the multiverses.

No. Multiverses are predictions of current theories.

... creation scientists think we should use plasma in space in order to travel at high rates of speed, so we will be able to speed about the stars.

Seems far-fetched. Citation?

FrumiousBandersnatch · Dec 5, 2018

jamesbond007 said:
Tardigrades, other bacteria and microbes cannot survive in space nor can they live beneath the surface in space. We know from exploring Mars.

As I said before, "Tardigrades (aka 'water bears') have been shown to survive at least 10 days in space, bacteria have been shown to survive in space for over a year and a half, and Apollo 12 found that Streptococcus mitis had survived for three years on Surveyor 3 on the moon". The highlighted text provides links to the evidence that supports this.

We haven't explored for evidence of life below the Martian surface, so we don't know if there is any.

Then we find that no life can exist in space and beneath the surface due to solar wind. It means no panspermia.

Some Earth organisms can survive fairly extended periods in space (see above). The induced magnetosphere of Mars protects it from the solar wind. A short distance below the surface is also protected from solar radiation.

I'm not a fan of panspermia, but examination of meteorites from Mars suggests that the conditions inside some would be survivable for hardy Earth organisms, so transfer (cross-contamination) between planets in the solar system is possible (sometimes called 'transpermia').

The things that atheist scientists hypothesize and theorize about space is not true.

Unsupported assertion.

FrumiousBandersnatch · Dec 5, 2018

jamesbond007 said:
I'm saying what Stephen Hawking was trying to show in his last paper is pseudoscience. He was trying to create the universe from nothing. He was trying to play God. What else was his last paper trying to do?

His last paper was a technical paper on black holes and the information paradox; nothing to do with creating the universe :doh:

jamesbond007 · Dec 7, 2018

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
Denial is not rebuttal.

Correct. It was you and atheists who denied the evidence. Thus, no rebuttal means I get a point haha.

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
Who claimed any of that?

Me. You were left behind.

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
No. Multiverses are predictions of current theories.

So they say, but it became popular "after" the fine tuning facts. Moreover, things do not just materialize out of nothing as the William Lane Craig vid demonstrated. Otherwise, materialize a Gino's supreme pizza and a sugar Coke for me. I'm hungry.

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
Seems far-fetched. Citation?

Your ignorance of space travel is showing.

Plasma propulsion engine - Wikipedia

jamesbond007 · Dec 7, 2018

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
As I said before, "Tardigrades (aka 'water bears') have been shown to survive at least 10 days in space, bacteria have been shown to survive in space for over a year and a half, and Apollo 12 found that Streptococcus mitis had survived for three years on Surveyor 3 on the moon". The highlighted text provides links to the evidence that supports this.

We haven't explored for evidence of life below the Martian surface, so we don't know if there is any.

It doesn't matter if they lived for three years in a Surveyor 3 environment. They ended up dead, not surviving on the moon which is space. How long would they have lived on Earth?

Stop trying to explain something you are ignorant about.

Martian soil - Wikipedia

Researchers find evidence of lake beneath the surface of Mars, new study says

jamesbond007 · Dec 7, 2018

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
His last paper was a technical paper on black holes and the information paradox; nothing to do with creating the universe

More wrongness. Sheesh. His partner submitted that. He was already dead. I already provide my link.

I'll assume that since you could not rebut the more critical piece on Hawking regarding cosmic inflation (I gave him the near infinite temp and density of singularity) that I scored more points than you.

jamesbond007 · Dec 7, 2018

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
I'm not a fan of panspermia, but examination of meteorites from Mars suggests that the conditions inside some would be survivable for hardy Earth organisms, so transfer (cross-contamination) between planets in the solar system is possible (sometimes called 'transpermia').

Nope. The meteorite from Mars could have been anything. Too small to show a chain. No panspermia means there was no way for life to start from Earth, for example. Instead of trying just to contradict and failing to rebut the points I bring up, why don't you bring up your own evidence. Is it because there isn't any evidence?

Neogaia777 · Dec 7, 2018

God might have made it that before they get so far, or at a point of getting so far, then intervening on each one, and then they may have been told about the "prime directive" or whatever, so to speak maybe...?

Maybe they all went "somewhere else"...? At some point and maybe that was the point of making all of this or it/them (us)...?

As Agent Smith might say, were no different from a virus, or cancer or disease, right now, and until that changes... I don't think we or anyone else before us was able to truly change it without Divine Intervention as some point...

Then again, they might have all died before ever truly being able to travel to the stars discover other planets like earth or earth-like and get to them with people, ect, they might have all died or killed themselves or their planets somehow, or their planets ability to sustain life, or something else, before getting very far beyond their own solar systems, maybe... they're nature(s) didn't change so it was "unsustainable" kind of thing, and unstable and died out in the end maybe...? "For dust thou art and to dust shall thou return" kind of thing maybe...?

Earth like planets could still be rather rare also, and so far apart that, even if they did make it some in the universe/galaxy they still died out...

But then maybe not maybe they went somewhere else or evolved to a point of going somewhere else or the Divine Intervention kind of thing, maybe by some much, much higher being and forms of life much greater than that of mere humans or aliens, or physical fleshly beings, and they take you where they are or transfer you to where they exist, or something like that maybe...? Prime directive exists there in some form maybe...? In accord and relation to this kind of reality and/or existence, from there maybe...?

God Bless!

Secular Science Thinks Billions Of Planets Have Sentient Life. So Why Haven't They/We Made Contact?

Why haven't we made contact with aliens?

There has been no contact, but they are out there

Aliens are part of science-fiction

God did not create aliens

Other (please give reason(s))

I don't know

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