“About Divine Healing and Health”

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That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the Prophet, saying, himself took our infirmities, and bare our sickness”—Matthew 8:17

Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and BE IN HEALTH, even as thy soul prospereth”—3John2

For the sake of this discuss, two scriptural texts from two Apostles (Matthew and John) have been provided. Because a matter must be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses. In the first opening text, Matthew by the Spirit tells us that Jesus’ healing acts in the preceding verses were a fulfilment of Isaiah’s prophecy concerning Jesus’ Atonement for our healing and health.

It says “himself took our infirmities, and bare our sickness”. And of course, if Jesus took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses, then our infirmities and sicknesses are gone.

Then for the second opening text from John, the scripture is also very straight-forward. John by the Spirit says “He wish above all things that we may prosper and be in health, even as our soul prospers”. The word ‘wish’ as used by John in the above scriptural quote, is from the Greek word, ‘euchomai’ meaning ‘to wish’. Which by implication means: to pray to God or to will.

And since these John wishes or prayers were motivated by the Holy Ghost, it means John was praying the topmost will of God for us believers. And amongst these topmost will of God that John prayed for, is health. So we can safely again assert that divine health (amongst others) is God’s topmost desire for his children.

With the above two scriptures, every believer can confidently trust God for their perfect health and healing at all times. And of course, this becomes the rule.

So Can a Believer Be Sick?

Having established from the two opening text above, that perfect health and healing is the believer’s heritage in Christ Jesus, the very next question that quickly comes to mind is ‘can a believer be sick?’ The answer to the above question is yes. A believer in Christ Jesus can be sick or challenged in his health. And that is why part of the health providence of Jesus is called ‘healing’. Of course, your health has to be challenged for you to get healed.

But in as much as a believer’s health can be challenged. The believer can by his faith in the healing atonement of Christ, as we have discussed earlier, deny the fact that he is sick. Even when the symptoms are very glaring…

When he does that, he is walking by faith and scriptural understanding. The believer who denies being sick even with symptoms of sickness, is not to be judged as a liar. Any more than the believer who confesses that he is righteous, even though he fails sometimes and repents would be called a liar.

To call a person talking by faith a liar, is to be judging from a very high level of spiritual parochialism.

When a believer is having a health challenge but says he is not sick or he is strong, he is simply speaking in line with the scripture that says, when I am weak, then am I strong (2 Corinthians 12:10).

The person may be lying on hospital bed and yet still maintain his confession of divine health, looking up to God for intervention. And of course, most of the time, God does intervene in response to such faith. Testimonies of such divine interventions abound so much to deny.

What About Those That Die Saying They Are Not Sick?

A major attack brought against divine healing is the fact that many a believer had said they are not sick. And even confessed they can never be sick. Yet they ended up dying with some ailments. People ask; is that not deception? Well, from scriptures their words and acts can never in any way be called deception.

The proper classification of their words and acts is simply faith. Now most of these folks that actually made such confessions actually enjoyed undeniable divine health and healing from God through their faith in God for years. Then eventually some of them couldn’t recover from their health challenges before their death. The reason for such occurrences can vary. Especially, it may be a call home time for them by God…

This may be the reason, for the exceptional overriding of their faith by God. And that does not in any way make their profession and earnestness of faith a deception like many call it.

Even when they die like that, they can also be counted as heroes of faith. Including those who refuse medication for the sake of their faith. Hebrews 11:35 tells us that some of the heroes of faith, were tortured, not accepting deliverance that they might obtain a better resurrection.

So to die in one’s earnest faith in God’s word, is never a deception; but rather, a righteous act in commitment to God’s faithfulness.

And like I always tell people, we have a better hope of a believer that dies in his earnest faith, than the ones who die in unbelief and doubt.

Yes, it’s true that many have died believing absolutely in God for their healing and health. But many more have died in unbelief and doubt.

What About The Unbelieving Believers?

Most of the attacks and criticism against those who believe in divine healing even unto death come from the group of believers who don’t believe in divine healing. Most of them once believed in divine healing and health. But like the folks with stony hearts in Jesus’ parable, when they faced some tribulations and persecution, concerning their faith in divine healing, they were offended.

Then consequently, they begin to bring up one baseless attack after the other against the healing gospel. They say, ‘Many believe in divine health and healing yet they get sick and die; so the healing and health doctrine is false’. And yet with the massive failure of medical science, they still have great confidence in it…

Even much more than God’s word. When they or someone gets any health challenge, it never occur to them to look up to God first for divine healing. Instead, they first run to the hospital. And when medical science eventually fails them, in self-justification, they claim the sickness is their thorn in the flesh.

They claim such things just to attract pity from people. Instead of repenting of their unbelief so God can heal them…

They say their ailments are thorns from God, yet they keep on investing a larger share of their income in medicine. But I find that absurd. If someone claims his ailment is God’s will, why then fight the ailment with much assiduousness with medicine?

Some even get off medical science to witchcraft science. Some run to self-help materials to help themselves. Some to hypnotherapy. While some others run to one of the many new-age healing practices for relief. A cousin of mine told me of how a sick Pastor died in the hand of a witch doctor while he went to him for treatment…

Instead of believing solely in the healing and health provision of God unto death. I have often told people. I live above sickness and diseases. Because Christ had taken them away from me. And I will keep on confessing that even if I am lying down on the basis of health challenge. And I will keep on with that confession even when I’m about to take my last breath on the basis of health challenge…

Anyone that wants to mock is very welcome. But I will believe and confess the Lord’s word unto death. I will never twist scriptures to align with my experiences or failures instead of the undiluted word of God.

In conclusion… God’s desire for all his children is perfect health and healing. And he had already sufficiently provided for it through the stripes of Jesus. As such, divine health and healing for every believer, is the rule. And that being so, for other reasons, the believers health can be challenged…

And of course, this becomes the exception to the rule of divine health. Then even when this exception occur in the life of a believer, the believer can resist the health challenge by faith and divine wisdom even unto death to the honour and glory of God.

Remain Blessed!

Emeke Odili.
 
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We can only account for ourselves...... Even if we hear someone else confess to be healthy, we know not what is in their hearts (we must confess with our mouths and believe in our hearts).....so we cant really say why they still died. There should be little exceptions to truth.

Therefore, we must continue to speak the truth in love.......which may, sometime, require us to hold our peace.....for there be many who are unable to bear it.....having lost love ones that they prayed for.....
 
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In conclusion… God’s desire for all his children is perfect health and healing. And he had already sufficiently provided for it through the stripes of Jesus. As such, divine health and healing for every believer, is the rule. And that being so, for other reasons, the believers health can be challenged…

Hello!
I know divine healing is the most sought after miracle for many Christians. I am not a cessationist and also believe if it is God's will, He will heal. However, to go beyond the "will of God" by turning His will into our will, may detour from the truth of faith and salvation. If we focus our walk with Christ based on our relentless search for "perfect health and healing", we have now turned away from the truth of sanctification through the work of the Holy Spirit, basically dealing with our sin. Keep in mind, it is not the will of the Father that we all be in perfect health physically but His will for us is to be presented perfect in Christ.

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That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the Prophet, saying, himself took our infirmities, and bare our sickness”—Matthew 8:17

Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and BE IN HEALTH, even as thy soul prospereth”—3John2

For the sake of this discuss, two scriptural texts from two Apostles (Matthew and John) have been provided. Because a matter must be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses. In the first opening text, Matthew by the Spirit tells us that Jesus’ healing acts in the preceding verses were a fulfilment of Isaiah’s prophecy concerning Jesus’ Atonement for our healing and health.

It says “himself took our infirmities, and bare our sickness”. And of course, if Jesus took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses, then our infirmities and sicknesses are gone.

Then for the second opening text from John, the scripture is also very straight-forward. John by the Spirit says “He wish above all things that we may prosper and be in health, even as our soul prospers”. The word ‘wish’ as used by John in the above scriptural quote, is from the Greek word, ‘euchomai’ meaning ‘to wish’. Which by implication means: to pray to God or to will.

And since these John wishes or prayers were motivated by the Holy Ghost, it means John was praying the topmost will of God for us believers. And amongst these topmost will of God that John prayed for, is health. So we can safely again assert that divine health (amongst others) is God’s topmost desire for his children.

With the above two scriptures, every believer can confidently trust God for their perfect health and healing at all times. And of course, this becomes the rule.

So Can a Believer Be Sick?

Having established from the two opening text above, that perfect health and healing is the believer’s heritage in Christ Jesus, the very next question that quickly comes to mind is ‘can a believer be sick?’ The answer to the above question is yes. A believer in Christ Jesus can be sick or challenged in his health. And that is why part of the health providence of Jesus is called ‘healing’. Of course, your health has to be challenged for you to get healed.

But in as much as a believer’s health can be challenged. The believer can by his faith in the healing atonement of Christ, as we have discussed earlier, deny the fact that he is sick. Even when the symptoms are very glaring…

When he does that, he is walking by faith and scriptural understanding. The believer who denies being sick even with symptoms of sickness, is not to be judged as a liar. Any more than the believer who confesses that he is righteous, even though he fails sometimes and repents would be called a liar.

To call a person talking by faith a liar, is to be judging from a very high level of spiritual parochialism.

When a believer is having a health challenge but says he is not sick or he is strong, he is simply speaking in line with the scripture that says, when I am weak, then am I strong (2 Corinthians 12:10).

The person may be lying on hospital bed and yet still maintain his confession of divine health, looking up to God for intervention. And of course, most of the time, God does intervene in response to such faith. Testimonies of such divine interventions abound so much to deny.

What About Those That Die Saying They Are Not Sick?

A major attack brought against divine healing is the fact that many a believer had said they are not sick. And even confessed they can never be sick. Yet they ended up dying with some ailments. People ask; is that not deception? Well, from scriptures their words and acts can never in any way be called deception.

The proper classification of their words and acts is simply faith. Now most of these folks that actually made such confessions actually enjoyed undeniable divine health and healing from God through their faith in God for years. Then eventually some of them couldn’t recover from their health challenges before their death. The reason for such occurrences can vary. Especially, it may be a call home time for them by God…

This may be the reason, for the exceptional overriding of their faith by God. And that does not in any way make their profession and earnestness of faith a deception like many call it.

Even when they die like that, they can also be counted as heroes of faith. Including those who refuse medication for the sake of their faith. Hebrews 11:35 tells us that some of the heroes of faith, were tortured, not accepting deliverance that they might obtain a better resurrection.

So to die in one’s earnest faith in God’s word, is never a deception; but rather, a righteous act in commitment to God’s faithfulness.

And like I always tell people, we have a better hope of a believer that dies in his earnest faith, than the ones who die in unbelief and doubt.

Yes, it’s true that many have died believing absolutely in God for their healing and health. But many more have died in unbelief and doubt.

What About The Unbelieving Believers?

Most of the attacks and criticism against those who believe in divine healing even unto death come from the group of believers who don’t believe in divine healing. Most of them once believed in divine healing and health. But like the folks with stony hearts in Jesus’ parable, when they faced some tribulations and persecution, concerning their faith in divine healing, they were offended.

Then consequently, they begin to bring up one baseless attack after the other against the healing gospel. They say, ‘Many believe in divine health and healing yet they get sick and die; so the healing and health doctrine is false’. And yet with the massive failure of medical science, they still have great confidence in it…

Even much more than God’s word. When they or someone gets any health challenge, it never occur to them to look up to God first for divine healing. Instead, they first run to the hospital. And when medical science eventually fails them, in self-justification, they claim the sickness is their thorn in the flesh.

They claim such things just to attract pity from people. Instead of repenting of their unbelief so God can heal them…

They say their ailments are thorns from God, yet they keep on investing a larger share of their income in medicine. But I find that absurd. If someone claims his ailment is God’s will, why then fight the ailment with much assiduousness with medicine?

Some even get off medical science to witchcraft science. Some run to self-help materials to help themselves. Some to hypnotherapy. While some others run to one of the many new-age healing practices for relief. A cousin of mine told me of how a sick Pastor died in the hand of a witch doctor while he went to him for treatment…

Instead of believing solely in the healing and health provision of God unto death. I have often told people. I live above sickness and diseases. Because Christ had taken them away from me. And I will keep on confessing that even if I am lying down on the basis of health challenge. And I will keep on with that confession even when I’m about to take my last breath on the basis of health challenge…

Anyone that wants to mock is very welcome. But I will believe and confess the Lord’s word unto death. I will never twist scriptures to align with my experiences or failures instead of the undiluted word of God.

In conclusion… God’s desire for all his children is perfect health and healing. And he had already sufficiently provided for it through the stripes of Jesus. As such, divine health and healing for every believer, is the rule. And that being so, for other reasons, the believers health can be challenged…

And of course, this becomes the exception to the rule of divine health. Then even when this exception occur in the life of a believer, the believer can resist the health challenge by faith and divine wisdom even unto death to the honour and glory of God.

Remain Blessed!

Emeke Odili.
The 3 John phrase was a common one used for that time, was expressing a general prayer that all is found well with you. but not a specific promise from God to be always healthy and wealthy!
And Pater expresses to us , agreeing with Isaiah, that Jesus main emphasis was in taking on our spiritual sin debt, and to save us from our sins!
 
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That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the Prophet, saying, himself took our infirmities, and bare our sickness”—Matthew 8:17

Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and BE IN HEALTH, even as thy soul prospereth”—3John2

For the sake of this discuss, two scriptural texts from two Apostles (Matthew and John) have been provided. Because a matter must be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses. In the first opening text, Matthew by the Spirit tells us that Jesus’ healing acts in the preceding verses were a fulfilment of Isaiah’s prophecy concerning Jesus’ Atonement for our healing and health.

No, they don't mention the atonement.
The context is - Jesus had just healed Peter's mother-in-law, and many sick people were being brought to the house so that he could heal them.
This verse from Isaiah prophesies that Jesus was going to have a healing ministry. When he came, and started healing, he fulfilled that prophecy.

Then for the second opening text from John, the scripture is also very straight-forward. John by the Spirit says “He wish above all things that we may prosper and be in health, even as our soul prospers”. The word ‘wish’ as used by John in the above scriptural quote, is from the Greek word, ‘euchomai’ meaning ‘to wish’. Which by implication means: to pray to God or to will.

No, he was greeting someone and saying that he wished, or hoped, that they would enjoy good health and be blessed physically as they were spiritually. It's a greeting ; I wish you well, or I pray that you are well.
It's not a promise that God will always give them good health, nor a word from God that they will never be sick.

And since these John wishes or prayers were motivated by the Holy Ghost, it means John was praying the topmost will of God for us believers.

No, it means that John was greeting a friend/church and hoping they were well.
We are not at liberty to assume it applies to us, nor that John is telling us that God will always bless and prosper us.
Sorry, but years of discussion on this forum tells me that these are proof texts of the Word of Faith movement - people trying to prove that prosperity is God's desire for us.

With the above two scriptures, every believer can confidently trust God for their perfect health and healing at all times.

No we can't.
People become ill and sometimes die; it's what happens. Paul preached the Gospel to the Galatians because he was sick, Galatians 4:13. Presumably he was too ill to travel to where he was going and stayed in Galatia. Epaphroditus was so ill that he nearly died, Philippians 2:27, and Trophimus got left behind by Paul because he wasn't well enough to travel, 2 Timothy 4:20.

But in as much as a believer’s health can be challenged. The believer can by his faith in the healing atonement of Christ, as we have discussed earlier, deny the fact that he is sick. Even when the symptoms are very glaring…

That's not faith; that's denial, and very dangerous.
There have been accounts of people who have died because they did just that. Jennifer Rees-Larcombe, an author, used to believe that, and when she became sick spent time denying, rebuking her symptoms and claiming healing. Yet she was still very ill with encephalitis and actually died in the hospital before being resuscitated.
She was miraculously healed years later - after she had learned that denying your symptoms was not going to make God take them away.
I have never believed this, and yet was still miraculously healed from M.E.

When he does that, he is walking by faith and scriptural understanding.

Sorry, I'm sure you mean well, but that is actually an unhelpful, and dangerous, teaching.
I have read about, and heard, people who've said they felt terrible guilt because if they had enough faith they would be healed. The implication is, you aren't healed because you don't have faith.
I have actually been told that, by people on these forums; I was told I wouldn't be healed because I did not have faith. What that meant was that I did not have faith in their teaching, and did not accept that denying my symptoms would bring healing from God. Yet they were wrong - God healed me anyway.

The believer who denies being sick even with symptoms of sickness, is not to be judged as a liar. Any more than the believer who confesses that he is righteous, even though he fails sometimes and repents would be called a liar.

To call a person talking by faith a liar, is to be judging from a very high level of spiritual parochialism.

I wouldn't say they were a liar - I might say, or think, that they were foolish.
When Jesus met blind men and lepers, he never said "you only think you have the symptoms of leprosy (or whatever); just deny them by faith." He once laid hands on a blind man whose sight was then partially restored - he never said "oh, you haven't got enough faith for full healing." He didn't tell anyone to rebuke or deny their symptoms.
And after the resurrection, the early church did the same. Nowhere did Peter and Paul say "have you got enough faith for healing?" or "rebuke your symptoms and claim healing". They simply healed - sometimes without even touching them, never mind talking about their faith.

I am pretty sure that if someone went to the doctor and said they had symptoms of fever/rash/stomach bug/racing heartbeat but they weren't ill; at the very least, the doctor would ask why they were there, taking up his time.

The person may be lying on hospital bed and yet still maintain his confession of divine health, looking up to God for intervention.

A person may be very sick physically, but be in great shape spiritually and praying and asking God for bodily healing - sure.

And of course, most of the time, God does intervene in response to such faith. Testimonies of such divine interventions abound so much to deny.

And sometimes he doesn't.
David Watson received prayer from many Christians - even John Wimber and friends, who flew to England to pray for, and anoint, him. He still died from the cancer that they were all rebuking.
John Wimber died some years later from a brain tumour. Lots of people have taught this over the years - a lot of them have now died.

What About Those That Die Saying They Are Not Sick?

A major attack brought against divine healing is the fact that many a believer had said they are not sick. And even confessed they can never be sick. Yet they ended up dying with some ailments.

Many, many Christians accept divine healing; that God has the power to heal physically and miraculously, and sometimes does.
What a lot of Christians object to is, I'm afraid, exactly what you are teaching - that the way to be healed is by denying your symptoms, which shows your faith.

The proper classification of their words and acts is simply faith. Now most of these folks that actually made such confessions actually enjoyed undeniable divine health and healing from God through their faith in God for years.

Some don't.
Some people are born blind or disabled, become Christians later on and learn to serve God with their disability.
Joni Eareckson has been paralysed since she was 17. She still is, despite, at first, denying it and declaring her healing by faith. But if she hadn't been in a wheelchair she could not have started a very powerful ministry to disabled people, assuring them that they are still loved and that God has not forgotten them. People listen to her when she preaches the Gospel. To the disabled, she is where they are and has been through what they are going through; to those who aren't, she is a marvellous inspiration and testimony to the fact that IN all circumstances, God is with us, loves us and we are more than conquerors.

Even when they die like that, they can also be counted as heroes of faith. Including those who refuse medication for the sake of their faith.

Sorry, but if I had friends who had died from their illness, rather than get a simple prescription which could have healed them, I'd be sad, and angry with them for leaving their families and friends to grieve - maybe for leaving children without a parent. I certainly would thank God for their great faith - they would have clearly been proved wrong.

Hebrews 11:35 tells us that some of the heroes of faith, were tortured, not accepting deliverance that they might obtain a better resurrection.

They were tortured for their faith and refusal to deny it - not because they had an illness they had to endure without treatment.


What About The Unbelieving Believers?

Most of the attacks and criticism against those who believe in divine healing even unto death come from the group of believers who don’t believe in divine healing.

Some come from believers who don't accept what you are teaching.


Even much more than God’s word. When they or someone gets any health challenge, it never occur to them to look up to God first for divine healing. Instead, they first run to the hospital.

How do you know?

Anyone that wants to mock is very welcome.

I'm not mocking - God does heal people, and sometimes, in his mercy, even those who believe what you are saying.
But I believe your interpretation of Scripture is wrong, which naturally leads to a wrong conclusion being drawn.
The 2 verses that you gave were both taken out of context and do not mean, or say, what you claim they mean, or say. And I will always stick up for anyone who is being told that they are not healed because they do not have enough faith. That statement nearly always produces fear and guilt in people, not faith and hope - and it is wrong, even unscriptural.

But I will believe and confess the Lord’s word unto death.

Great - just make sure you know what it is really saying first.
Otherwise you may be like the person who found the verses, "then Judas went and hanged himself", and "go and do likewise", and conclude that God's word is promoting suicide.


In conclusion… God’s desire for all his children is perfect health and healing.

God's will for his children is that they believe in Jesus and have eternal life, John 6:40.[/QUOTE]
 
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