Friend told me God personally told him to use KJV only

JohnB445 said:

He doesn't like the new versions and told me it has no power. I have digested God's word fine with the ESV and get conviction from it when I read verses condemning my sins.

Even though he claims to have put his trust in Christ can I really trust everything he says? He has also told me that God told him personally there will be a pre-tribe rapture.

Maybe he is just assuming God told him these things? I'm careful when people claim God spoke to them in regards to doctrine.

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Anyone can say God told them to do something, when they were merely prompted by their own belief. It's like the young man sweet on a girl called Grace, so he went to the Bible and the verse jumped out at him, "Grace be to you and peace from our Lord Jesus Christ." So he believed that Grace was God's woman for him. It was a shock and an embarrassment for him when Grace did not reciprocate!

I heard of the leader of a Gospel singing group who invited people to send in their song tapes to see if they were good enough to be part of the group. He said that some gave him a tape and said, "God told me to give you this." After listening to the tape, he realized why God told the person to give him the tape, because God didn't want it Himself!

Theological and doctrinal prejudice does tricks in people's minds, and they think they are hearing from God when it is the voice of their prejudice

Well, a former friend who fought depression for many years once told me that he quit taking his meds because God wanted him to do so. The next day his wife phoned me to report that he was back in the psych ward for the third time in 15 years.

JohnB445 said:

He doesn't like the new versions and told me it has no power. I have digested God's word fine with the ESV and get conviction from it when I read verses condemning my sins.

Even though he claims to have put his trust in Christ can I really trust everything he says? He has also told me that God told him personally there will be a pre-trib rapture.

Maybe he is just assuming God told him these things? I'm careful when people claim God spoke to them in regards to doctrine.

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The thing with such people who say that God personally spoke to them and told them thus and thus, is that they disallowed any scrutinizing of what God allegedly told them. Essentially they're claiming to be prophets and what God told them should be added to scripture.

One reason people do that might be because their position is so weak and would fall apart if subject to scrutiny and so they end up lying to the Holy Spirit by making such false confessions.

bcbsr said:

The thing with such people who say that God personally spoke to them and told them thus and thus, is that they disallowed any scrutinizing of what God allegedly told them. Essentially they're claiming to be prophets and what God told them should be added to scripture.

One reason people do that might be because their position is so weak and would fall apart if subject to scrutiny and so they end up lying to the Holy Spirit by making such false confessions.

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Excellent point! I think if God is truly speaking to you, it will be clearly in correlation with Scripture. Something you heard taught recently or read in your devotions and then is suddenly applicable to a real life situation you find yourself in.

What I want to know is whether God spoke to him in the King's English?

JohnB445 said:

Maybe he is just assuming God told him these things?

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If he's a good friend humour him, and remember God spent far more time warning people in the OT then telling them what book to read.

JohnB445 said:

He doesn't like the new versions and told me it has no power. I have digested God's word fine with the ESV and get conviction from it when I read verses condemning my sins.

Even though he claims to have put his trust in Christ can I really trust everything he says? He has also told me that God told him personally there will be a pre-trib rapture.

Maybe he is just assuming God told him these things? I'm careful when people claim God spoke to them in regards to doctrine.

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Well, I use the KJV, but not that God told me, but by much evidence by Bible scholars. We need to realize that man is very prone to errors, so no version is perfect ---as we see in the increasing restlessness of men to keep changing Bible wordings to make it sound like modern language ways. One can write me if they would like to see some papers on that. I like to use the SCOFIELD STUDY EDITION OF KJV which keeps the original KJV wording, but has excellent commentaries and margin references to show where errors have occurred. Write to www.bibletruthpublishers.com for some choices. To "...each his own".

Why must we be limited to only one translation? We really don't have to just pick one.

bekkilyn said:

Why must we be limited to only one translation? We really don't have to just pick one.

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True! We can pick anything we choose if we desire.

Nvm

Concretecamper :seriously?????????
I am totally offended by that comment.

Nvm

concretecamper said:

Why? Most Christians see that it subtracted from the Word of God.

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Why? Well for a start as I use the KJV you would class me as a heretic.
Anyway its not worth any further comment so I am out of here, actually thinking probably for good.

Heavenhome said:

Why? Well for a start as I use the KJV you would class me as a heretic.
Anyway its not worth any further comment so I am out of here, actually thinking probably for good.

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I would never class you as heretical.

bcbsr said:

The thing with such people who say that God personally spoke to them and told them thus and thus, is that they disallowed any scrutinizing of what God allegedly told them. Essentially they're claiming to be prophets and what God told them should be added to scripture.

One reason people do that might be because their position is so weak and would fall apart if subject to scrutiny and so they end up lying to the Holy Spirit by making such false confessions.

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A guy could be prophet or a loss!

Messerve said:

Excellent point! I think if God is truly speaking to you, it will be clearly in correlation with Scripture. Something you heard taught recently or read in your devotions and then is suddenly applicable to a real life situation you find yourself in.

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I think that God has said all He has to say to mankind in the pages of the Bible. There is no fresh revelation apart from it. When He does speak to us in our hearts, it is not new revelation, but reminders of what He has already said to us in the Bible - except that He applies it to our particular situations.

When He talks to me during our fellowship and discussions, it is usually to remind me of a confirming verse or passage in the Bible, or if He wants to give me wisdom in a situation, He will direct me to a passage in Scripture that shows how a Bible character dealt with a situation that confronted him or her.

When Abraham spoke to the rich man in hell who asked that someone go back from the dead to warn his brothers not to come to this terrible place, he said, "They have the law and the prophets [in other words, the Bible]; if they won't believe that then they won't believe even if someone did come back from the dead". It is the same with revelation. Because there is all the revelation we need in the Bible, there is no point in God giving new revelation if we don't believe the revelation that is already written for us.

prodromos said:

What I want to know is whether God spoke to him in the King's English?

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Can't see the point in speaking in any other language which he may not understand!

1watchman said:

Well, I use the KJV, but not that God told me, but by much evidence by Bible scholars. We need to realize that man is very prone to errors, so no version is perfect ---as we see in the increasing restlessness of men to keep changing Bible wordings to make it sound like modern language ways. One can write me if they would like to see some papers on that. I like to use the SCOFIELD STUDY EDITION OF KJV which keeps the original KJV wording, but has excellent commentaries and margin references to show where errors have occurred. Write to www.bibletruthpublishers.com for some choices. To "...each his own".

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The point is, if one wants to say that modern translations are not as accurate as the KJV, that our translations are from the original Hebrew and Greek, so wordings can be changed because of the translation process. Especially Greek, where there can be a range of meaning for a Greek word.

In actual fact the KJV was taken mainly from Jerome's Latin Vulgate, and this makes a translation from a translation.

The New American Standard Bible and the Amplified Bible are taken directly from the Greek manuscripts available to us, therefore they are more accurate because they are just one translation from the Greek instead of a translation from a translation.

The RSV is just the KJV modernised and has more errors (like saying that Mary was a "young woman" instead of a virgin).

The New KJV is just the KJV modernised, but without the changed words of the RSV.

bekkilyn said:

Why must we be limited to only one translation? We really don't have to just pick one.

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Using Biblehub is very useful because you can see the same verse in all the translations and see how they are changed and how they are not changed. When I quote Scripture in my writing, I choose the one that best suits what I am saying. But the changes are more cosmetic than anything, and do not substantively change the important information in each case.