Donald Trump Gave Russia Leverage Over His Presidency

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A foreign adversary has possessed potentially damaging information about the president

Shortly after President Donald Trump was inaugurated, he gave a combative press conference at which he was asked by a reporter, “I was just hoping that we could get a yes or no answer on these questions involving Russia. Can you say if you are aware that anyone who advised your campaign had contacts with Russia during the course of the election?”

In reply, Trump lied to the American public. “Russia is a ruse. I have nothing to do with Russia. Haven’t made a phone call to Russia in years. Don’t speak to people from Russia,” he said. “… I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”

That he lied has long been clear—all sorts of people with whom he dealt had extensive, well-documented dealings with Russia and Russians. But additional evidence that he lied was revealed Thursday during an appearance in federal court by his former attorney Michael Cohen, who admitted that he negotiated on Trump’s behalf to build a skyscraper in Moscow; that his efforts lasted until at least June 2016; that he briefed Trump and members of Trump’s family about the matter; and that he later lied to Congress, to avoid contradicting Trump’s political message.

Consider the implications. At the very beginning of Trump’s presidency, as soon as he lied in that press conference, Vladimir Putin and Russian intelligence possessed the ability to unmask Trump as a liar to the American public, revealing damaging information to Congress and the public about which they had previously been ignorant. BuzzFeed’s account of the negotiations involving a potential Trump Tower in Moscow hints at the wealth of documentary evidence that the Russians would possess to back up their claims.

As it would turn out, that was merely the beginning of their leverage. In September 2017, Donald Trump Jr. gave sworn Senate testimony that may be contradicted by Thursday’s revelations, raising the prospect that the Russians have been in possession of evidence suggesting that the president’s son may have committed a felony. And once Cohen lied to Congress about the matter, the Russians were in a position to expose the unlawful behavior of Trump’s personal attorney.
The Russian Leverage Over Donald Trump - The Atlantic
 

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Again, if Trump did something wrong he should be impeached, but given how people tend to have hated him since he got in office it would seem much of it is out and out hate. Particularly if this stuff was supposedly known months ago.
 
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Again, if Trump did something wrong he should be impeached, but given how people tend to have hated him since he got in office it would seem much of it is out and out hate. Particularly if this stuff was supposedly known months ago.
The many things he has done wrong are why many peoply feel antipathy for him.
 
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Again, if Trump did something wrong he should be impeached, but given how people tend to have hated him since he got in office it would seem much of it is out and out hate. Particularly if this stuff was supposedly known months ago.
A lot of this information did come out before the election but many people were ignoring it.
People have a tendency to not like lying and not trusting, or liking, people who lie unless they dislike the competition more. A veil follows before their eyes so that they can't see the truth.
 
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A foreign adversary has possessed potentially damaging information about the president

Shortly after President Donald Trump was inaugurated, he gave a combative press conference at which he was asked by a reporter, “I was just hoping that we could get a yes or no answer on these questions involving Russia. Can you say if you are aware that anyone who advised your campaign had contacts with Russia during the course of the election?”

In reply, Trump lied to the American public. “Russia is a ruse. I have nothing to do with Russia. Haven’t made a phone call to Russia in years. Don’t speak to people from Russia,” he said. “… I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”

That he lied has long been clear—all sorts of people with whom he dealt had extensive, well-documented dealings with Russia and Russians. But additional evidence that he lied was revealed Thursday during an appearance in federal court by his former attorney Michael Cohen, who admitted that he negotiated on Trump’s behalf to build a skyscraper in Moscow; that his efforts lasted until at least June 2016; that he briefed Trump and members of Trump’s family about the matter; and that he later lied to Congress, to avoid contradicting Trump’s political message.

Consider the implications. At the very beginning of Trump’s presidency, as soon as he lied in that press conference, Vladimir Putin and Russian intelligence possessed the ability to unmask Trump as a liar to the American public, revealing damaging information to Congress and the public about which they had previously been ignorant. BuzzFeed’s account of the negotiations involving a potential Trump Tower in Moscow hints at the wealth of documentary evidence that the Russians would possess to back up their claims.

As it would turn out, that was merely the beginning of their leverage. In September 2017, Donald Trump Jr. gave sworn Senate testimony that may be contradicted by Thursday’s revelations, raising the prospect that the Russians have been in possession of evidence suggesting that the president’s son may have committed a felony. And once Cohen lied to Congress about the matter, the Russians were in a position to expose the unlawful behavior of Trump’s personal attorney.
The Russian Leverage Over Donald Trump - The Atlantic

Fake news? Kake news? If something happened in the past is it still really ‘real’? Maybe all the hairspray made him say it? How can we absolutely really really prove it without going back in time but we can’t so it must be fake news. Is that too many characters for Twitter?
 
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Again, if Trump did something wrong he should be impeached, but given how people tend to have hated him since he got in office it would seem much of it is out and out hate. Particularly if this stuff was supposedly known months ago.

Why do you think it’s all hate? Why is it hateful to look into what the president has been up to? This whole ‘it’s all about hate’ business seems like a ruse to avoid dealing with the reality of the situation. Was Nixon only investigated because people ‘hated’ him? Are all branches of law enforcement engaged in the relentless application of hate by prosecuting criminals?
 
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if we are so worried about Russia how about looking into the whole subject of involvement over time and we can see what has been the Russian strategy and many have co-operated in this. In 1953 a book called the naked communist labeled 45 bullet point plan set out by the communist so turn America into a socialist country. These 45 points were read into the congressional record back then and they were not accomplished at the time written and now largely are. Communist goals in America

Today the UN is pushing for global government and has a document called the UN earth charter In 1994, Maurice Strong, the secretary general of the Earth Summit and chairman of the Earth Council, and Mikhail Gorbachev, president of Green Cross International, launched a new Earth Charter Initiative with support from the Dutch government. An Earth Charter Commission was formed in 1997 to oversee the project. Lets see if having the former soviet leader writing the guiding documents for global government might make one suspicious of the intent and direction global government is taking. Trump is a nationalist and is openly fighting the direction that the Soviets plan is directed to. His policies are not in line with Russian or globalist interest. There are many who are cooperating with this agenda.
 
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if we are so worried about Russia how about looking into the whole subject of involvement over time and we can see what has been the Russian strategy and many have co-operated in this. In 1953 a book called the naked communist labeled 45 bullet point plan set out by the communist so turn America into a socialist country. These 45 points were read into the congressional record back then and they were not accomplished at the time written and now largely are. Communist goals in America

Today the UN is pushing for global government and has a document called the UN earth charter In 1994, Maurice Strong, the secretary general of the Earth Summit and chairman of the Earth Council, and Mikhail Gorbachev, president of Green Cross International, launched a new Earth Charter Initiative with support from the Dutch government. An Earth Charter Commission was formed in 1997 to oversee the project. Lets see if having the former soviet leader writing the guiding documents for global government might make one suspicious of the intent and direction global government is taking. Trump is a nationalist and is openly fighting the direction that the Soviets plan is directed to. His policies are not in line with Russian or globalist interest. There are many who are cooperating with this agenda.

The division of the West is very much in line with Putin's agenda for a greater Russia, a mantle he's not the first to carry - you can look into the split in late Tsarist Russia between progressives who looked to a modernising Europe and those who believed in Russia's spiritual destiny, an deeply rooted belief that has taken many forms, not all religiously motivated, a split represented e.g. by Turgenev on the one side, and Dostoyevsky on the other. Bear in mind that Gorbachev was a key figure in the reform and eventual breakup of the Soviet Union. In fact there are too many things to write here that you don't seem to be taking into consideration.
 
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A foreign adversary has possessed potentially damaging information about the president

Shortly after President Donald Trump was inaugurated, he gave a combative press conference at which he was asked by a reporter, “I was just hoping that we could get a yes or no answer on these questions involving Russia. Can you say if you are aware that anyone who advised your campaign had contacts with Russia during the course of the election?”

In reply, Trump lied to the American public. “Russia is a ruse. I have nothing to do with Russia. Haven’t made a phone call to Russia in years. Don’t speak to people from Russia,” he said. “… I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”

That he lied has long been clear—all sorts of people with whom he dealt had extensive, well-documented dealings with Russia and Russians. But additional evidence that he lied was revealed Thursday during an appearance in federal court by his former attorney Michael Cohen, who admitted that he negotiated on Trump’s behalf to build a skyscraper in Moscow; that his efforts lasted until at least June 2016; that he briefed Trump and members of Trump’s family about the matter; and that he later lied to Congress, to avoid contradicting Trump’s political message.

Consider the implications. At the very beginning of Trump’s presidency, as soon as he lied in that press conference, Vladimir Putin and Russian intelligence possessed the ability to unmask Trump as a liar to the American public, revealing damaging information to Congress and the public about which they had previously been ignorant. BuzzFeed’s account of the negotiations involving a potential Trump Tower in Moscow hints at the wealth of documentary evidence that the Russians would possess to back up their claims.

As it would turn out, that was merely the beginning of their leverage. In September 2017, Donald Trump Jr. gave sworn Senate testimony that may be contradicted by Thursday’s revelations, raising the prospect that the Russians have been in possession of evidence suggesting that the president’s son may have committed a felony. And once Cohen lied to Congress about the matter, the Russians were in a position to expose the unlawful behavior of Trump’s personal attorney.
The Russian Leverage Over Donald Trump - The Atlantic
I would say this is the perfect example of fake news.
 
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The division of the West is very much in line with Putin's agenda for a greater Russia, a mantle he's not the first to carry - you can look into the split in late Tsarist Russia between progressives who looked to a modernising Europe and those who believed in Russia's spiritual destiny, an deeply rooted belief that has taken many forms, not all religiously motivated, a split represented e.g. by Turgenev on the one side, and Dostoyevsky on the other. Bear in mind that Gorbachev was a key figure in the reform and eventual breakup of the Soviet Union. In fact there are too many things to write here that you don't seem to be taking into consideration.
I see psalm 2 speaking of the nations taking counsel together against the LORD and His anointed and understand that the one world government is part of prophetic destiny. I agree the division of the US is planned but also argue that it took a long time to prep the nation to where it is split 50 50 on moral and philosophic grounds. The end game is what I can see coming and the end of the dollar era is going to be the catalyst for a great many things. I really am not involved so much on the political front except where it intersects the prophetic sense.

There are many historical people who have warned of the coming destiny of the world and predicted the destruction of the American economy by means of becoming a service based sector instead of a industrial one. Those guys who saw our factories being moved off shore were right. Now the US is the biggest debtor in the history of money and running over trillion dollar deficits. We are seeing the end of this era coming quickly.
 
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I see psalm 2 speaking of the nations taking counsel together against the LORD and His anointed and understand that the one world government is part of prophetic destiny. I agree the division of the US is planned but also argue that it took a long time to prep the nation to where it is split 50 50 on moral and philosophic grounds. The end game is what I can see coming and the end of the dollar era is going to be the catalyst for a great many things. I really am not involved so much on the political front except where it intersects the prophetic sense.

There are many historical people who have warned of the coming destiny of the world and predicted the destruction of the American economy by means of becoming a service based sector instead of a industrial one. Those guys who saw our factories being moved off shore were right. Now the US is the biggest debtor in the history of money and running over trillion dollar deficits. We are seeing the end of this era coming quickly.

Sorry I was going to type more but I had to do something, otherwise I would have finished that last post a bit better.
 
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We are seeing the end of this era coming quickly.

You could be right there, probably quickly in the biblical sense though I think, as in a long drawn out process. I don't have much in depth understanding of the prophecies you mention.
 
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A foreign adversary has possessed potentially damaging information about the president

Shortly after President Donald Trump was inaugurated, he gave a combative press conference at which he was asked by a reporter, “I was just hoping that we could get a yes or no answer on these questions involving Russia. Can you say if you are aware that anyone who advised your campaign had contacts with Russia during the course of the election?”

In reply, Trump lied to the American public. “Russia is a ruse. I have nothing to do with Russia. Haven’t made a phone call to Russia in years. Don’t speak to people from Russia,” he said. “… I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”

That he lied has long been clear—all sorts of people with whom he dealt had extensive, well-documented dealings with Russia and Russians. But additional evidence that he lied was revealed Thursday during an appearance in federal court by his former attorney Michael Cohen, who admitted that he negotiated on Trump’s behalf to build a skyscraper in Moscow; that his efforts lasted until at least June 2016; that he briefed Trump and members of Trump’s family about the matter; and that he later lied to Congress, to avoid contradicting Trump’s political message.

Consider the implications. At the very beginning of Trump’s presidency, as soon as he lied in that press conference, Vladimir Putin and Russian intelligence possessed the ability to unmask Trump as a liar to the American public, revealing damaging information to Congress and the public about which they had previously been ignorant. BuzzFeed’s account of the negotiations involving a potential Trump Tower in Moscow hints at the wealth of documentary evidence that the Russians would possess to back up their claims.

As it would turn out, that was merely the beginning of their leverage. In September 2017, Donald Trump Jr. gave sworn Senate testimony that may be contradicted by Thursday’s revelations, raising the prospect that the Russians have been in possession of evidence suggesting that the president’s son may have committed a felony. And once Cohen lied to Congress about the matter, the Russians were in a position to expose the unlawful behavior of Trump’s personal attorney.
The Russian Leverage Over Donald Trump - The Atlantic
The terms "Consider the implications" and "raising the prospect" are terms used when there are insufficient facts to prove that something is true. A Big Nothing Burger, all conjecture just like the reporting at CNN
 
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A lot of this information did come out before the election but many people were ignoring it.
People have a tendency to not like lying and not trusting, or liking, people who lie unless they dislike the competition more. A veil follows before their eyes so that they can't see the truth.
Or maybe it is just because lying by a political candidate is expected it certainly was not one sided
 
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Why do you think it’s all hate? Why is it hateful to look into what the president has been up to? This whole ‘it’s all about hate’ business seems like a ruse to avoid dealing with the reality of the situation. Was Nixon only investigated because people ‘hated’ him? Are all branches of law enforcement engaged in the relentless application of hate by prosecuting criminals?
no Nixon was investigate because there was a clear crime committed and he was investigated to see if he participated in that specific crime. In the case of Trump we have an investigation doing everything it can to find or invent a crime. "show me the man and I will show you the crime"
Lavrentiy Beria, head of Joseph Stalin's secret police
 
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Personally, if I were Putin, I would just go on TV and grin and give one soundbyte:

"Yes America, I got him elected and I own him".

Whether it's true or not, he wins.
And I would call that nothing more than Trump bashing
 
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The terms "Consider the implications" and "raising the prospect" are terms used when there are insufficient facts to prove that something is true. A Big Nothing Burger, all conjecture just like the reporting at CNN

Lying has consequences. By lying about his relationship with the Russians, Trump made himself vulnerable to them.
 
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