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I believe it to be intellectually, emotionally and spiritually unhealthy to live your life in constant expectation of the "end times". It is far better to live your life in such a way as to make this a better world, not just today but into the far distant future.

Depends if you're a believer or not. If you're an unbeliever, you'd be wise to fear the wrath of the Lamb. And if you're a believer, end times wrath should move you to persuade others.

2Cor. 5:11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men;...​

At the very least you should fear for others.
 
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Do you mean "near" the same way the apostles meant "near" when they infallibly testified that they were "near" 1900+ years ago, or are you using a different meaning of the word than the apostles did?

I’m using “near” as in within the next 100 years.
 
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I don't know what exactly is going to happen, I know there will be a anti-christ, tribulations that I probably cannot imagine, things will go downhill.

This is why I hope for a pre-trib rapture, but with all the confusion I know I should probably look forward to what other interpretations are in case if there isn't a pre-trib rapture. Other than that I was hoping for it doesn't happen in my lifetime, but all this hope is just part of me trying to close my eyes in a sense.

Is everything really just around the corner? 5-10 years? Or do we probably have a lot of time left 100 years+. Jesus says we just won't know the exact day or hour, but with all the signs going on we can guestimate around how close we are.

No one knows. Ever since the Christ did the Church has been looking for His return. The end is only scary if you buy into many of the ideas floating around, I do not. I believe Revelation was not about the future but the past, it was for first century Christians who understood the symbolism. Do not be scared trust in God, life the Christian life and do not worry about the end.
 
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I don't know what exactly is going to happen, I know there will be a anti-christ, tribulations that I probably cannot imagine, things will go downhill.

This is why I hope for a pre-trib rapture, but with all the confusion I know I should probably look forward to what other interpretations are in case if there isn't a pre-trib rapture. Other than that I was hoping for it doesn't happen in my lifetime, but all this hope is just part of me trying to close my eyes in a sense.

Is everything really just around the corner? 5-10 years? Or do we probably have a lot of time left 100 years+. Jesus says we just won't know the exact day or hour, but with all the signs going on we can guestimate around how close we are.

There are other interpretations of what is considered "the end times". But you would need to have an open mind to investigate them. The partial Preterist view of the end times. Is a good place to start.

Meanwhile, one thing to keep in mind , there have been date setters since the first century so we should really hold true to Jesus Christ's words, He will come "as a thief in the night". So the ONLY thing we need to do, is keep our house in order.
 
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No one knows. Ever since the Christ did the Church has been looking for His return. The end is only scary if you buy into many of the ideas floating around, I do not. I believe Revelation was not about the future but the past, it was for first century Christians who understood the symbolism. Do not be scared trust in God, life the Christian life and do not worry about the end.
If that were the case then we would be living the kingdom life now. Does this world today look anything like what is described as the kingdom to you ? Where are no temptation, no rape, no murder, the lions laying down with lambs led by children etc etc ?
 
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No one knows. Ever since the Christ did the Church has been looking for His return. The end is only scary if you buy into many of the ideas floating around, I do not. I believe Revelation was not about the future but the past, it was for first century Christians who understood the symbolism. Do not be scared trust in God, life the Christian life and do not worry about the end.

Look how fear is used in Revelation.

Rev. 11:18 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come,
And the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints,
And those who fear Your name, small and great,
And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”

Rev. 14:7 saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”

Rev. 15:4 Who shall not fear You, O Lord, and glorify Your name?
For You alone are holy.
For all nations shall come and worship before You,
For Your judgments have been manifested.”

Rev. 19:5 Then a voice came from the throne, saying, “Praise our God, all you His servants and those who fear Him, both small and great!”
 
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Many of the Bible’s greatest prophecies culminate in the Return of Jesus. This will be the most wonderful event that the world has seen, but what precedes it will be very different – terrible disasters and tribulations will engulf every society. It will take great trust and faith in Gods power to hold steady until the end.

Luke 18:8 When the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?

God wants you to rely on Him, to trust Him completely. In the near future , when others are gripped by fear, uncertainty and confusion and have no idea of where to turn to for answers, God does not want His people to agonize over what may happen next.

Luke 21:18-19 Not a hair of your head will be lost. By standing firm you will win
yourselves life.


Revelation 13:10 ..... this calls for the endurance and faithfulness of Gods people.

Matthew 24:30-31 And then shall appear.... the son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. He shall send His angels with the sound of the great trumpet, and they shall gather His faithful people from the four corners of the earth and the heavens.
Note; the Lord's people are not gathered until Jesus Returns, which is after all that is prophesied to happen before that glorious Day.

Daniel 7:27 The kingly power and sovereignty of all the kingdoms under heaven will be given to the Holy people of the Most High. Their power will last forever and every realm will serve and obey them.
 
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Only one problem. Your version is different than Jesus version:

Luke 17:29
But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

Actually that is Luke's version.
 
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Show us a pre-trib resurrection of the just.
There is not a judging of the dead till Revelation 11:18.
time to - judge
reward -
destroy -the nations

Luke 14:14 shows that reward time is when the just rise.
The rapture cannot happen till after this announcement in Revelation 11:18.

I spent months and months studying the Rapture passages in scripture, consulted multiple scholarly commentaries and study Bibles, and took copious notes. To think that I can sum up the argument for a pre-Trib rapture in a short response on a thread is ridiculous. If you're interested in doing the studies yourself I'd be happy to point you to the resources I used.
 
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I don't know what exactly is going to happen, I know there will be a anti-christ, tribulations that I probably cannot imagine, things will go downhill.

This is why I hope for a pre-trib rapture, but with all the confusion I know I should probably look forward to what other interpretations are in case if there isn't a pre-trib rapture. Other than that I was hoping for it doesn't happen in my lifetime, but all this hope is just part of me trying to close my eyes in a sense.

Is everything really just around the corner? 5-10 years? Or do we probably have a lot of time left 100 years+. Jesus says we just won't know the exact day or hour, but with all the signs going on we can guestimate around how close we are.

With the way things are going, unless there's a major revival, I don't see this world going beyond another 20 years.
Shootings and various other forms of violent crime are a regular occurrence, not to mention the fact that we frequently hear about children committing such crimes. The ability to access knowledge(good and bad) via computers and other media is ubiquitous throughout most of the world.
We could sit here and make a laundry list of other things that 40-50+ years ago were unheard of.
Everything nowadays is about money, entertainment, self-pursuits, and if it feels good, do it. Christianity(not the feel-good social form) in general is seen as hate-speech and intolerant. The only safe haven from being ostracized is in the church itself and even that is gradually being taken away.

While I'm not into prognosticating when the end-times will come, I don't think its far fetched to believe that we are in the proper season where the end-times could begin at any time.
 
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Stick with Jesus....

Luke 21:
34
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
 
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Well.. take what Christ said.. try not to ADD to what is written.. well I mean when some speculate.. thats NOT whats written. Great to talk about ..but.. in the end.. thats not what it says...if that makes sense.

I look at it .. Jesus went back to make me place to live. He said if I go I will come back for you so where I am you will be. WHERE I go you know how I go you know.,

Then Pauls 1st letter was to those that thought Christ came and left already. Pauls told them.. no.. you will see Christ in the air you will see the dead rise and go up..but dont worry they wont go before us.. we well be changed and all go up to met Christ in the air to be with Him forever..... then we keep reading we find He/it that has power over the enemy/lawless one..gee who has more all power over the enemy? But when He/it it taken out of the way.. then and only then do we see the lawless one come on the stage and do lying wonders.. on and on.

And in that was "comfort one another with these words". See what I said is going to happen. No one on this earth can say it wont. Its written. What you focus on is what Christ said.. not what I say or anyone else.. you LISTEN for "what that really means.. what He is really trying to say" on and on. That is not truth.. not a lie but its speculation.

Are you seeing the signs Jesus talked about in Matt 24? We have since Christ left had these signs.. great storms huge earthquakes. But.. never have we had them ALL at once. As we do today.. and each year gets greater and greater.

So.. ME I focus on what Christ said.. He IS coming back for us.. He cant lie. I am NOT going to lsiten to someone from this earth.. that has ALL the same INFO I have...to them tell me.. NO whats REALLY going to happen or NO ALL that happens at the start.. no it happens in the middle no it happens at the end <---none of that is written. Whats written is CHRIST IS coming back for HIS own. We we see these things happening LOOK UP! YOUR REDEMPTION IS HERE! So.. KEEP YOUR EYES ON HIM! He is coming to get you..dont let anyone rob you of this truth. If HE said it HE will do it.. WHEN? I dont care.. it will ALWAYS be NOW
 
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Well actually I think you misread my post but you can think as you wish. What I said is the pre trib Is Not Found in Mat 24. And it isn't. Matthew 24 is not speaking about an event where believers before the great tribulation are caught up in the air. Are you saying it is speaking of that ?
Yes I'm saying part of Matt 24 is about the pretrib rapture. These verses are about the pretrib rapture.

Matt 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

I realize that you don't think the verses about Noah in Matt 24 are about a pretrib rapture.....because you believe that the flood destroyed the ones that are taken....as you can see in Luke 17.
Luke 17
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

However, there are things that should be considered. One these thing is that they were eating and drinking
until the day that Noah entered the ark. We know that Noah entered the ark 7 days before the flood. In other words destruction does not come until the flood comes. The flood does not come when Noah enters the ark.

Something else we should consider. Jesus says we can escape ALL THE THINGS THAT WILL COME TO PASS. That means that Noah enters the ark...BEFORE......this verse.

Matt 24
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

The church can escape all the things that will come to pass 7 days before the flood. The church will also not know when he is coming.

However, there are others that are told to lookup when they see these things begin to come to pass. They will know that there redemption is near. They will be raptured before the wrath of God. It will be like the days of Lot. The very day Lot left Sodom, destruction came. And notice that Lot went out from Sodom when destruction came.
 
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It's started already. The Jews have gathered in the homeland. I didn't even know that as it was before my time. I'm not sure about the one-world government, timelines, war, famines, a large percentage of populations wiped out, etc. Still waiting for the rebuilding of the temple.
 
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If that were the case then we would be living the kingdom life now. Does this world today look anything like what is described as the kingdom to you ? Where are no temptation, no rape, no murder, the lions laying down with lambs led by children etc etc ?

What?
 
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I spent months and months studying the Rapture passages in scripture, consulted multiple scholarly commentaries and study Bibles, and took copious notes. To think that I can sum up the argument for a pre-Trib rapture in a short response on a thread is ridiculous. If you're interested in doing the studies yourself I'd be happy to point you to the resources I used.
Interesting.
A case can be made for pre-trib rapture, even though the Bible does not state it.
But a case cannot be made for the reason why God would do such a thing.

In fact, because He has not previously 'raptured' anyone out of their terrible persecution before; examples are the millions of martyrs since Stephen, and even the 2 Witnesses to come are killed before being taken to heaven, then there is no justification for todays Church to be taken away from trials and testing. 1 Peter 4:12 says we WILL face testing.
So any so called; proof of a 'rapture to heaven', falls flat when no valid reason can be found for it.
Revelation 13:10 and Revelation 14:12 both plainly say we must endure until the end. We are promised protection during the wrath of the Lord; He requires our faith in His power for this. Acts 2:21, 2 Peter 2:9
 
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I don't know what exactly is going to happen, I know there will be a anti-christ, tribulations that I probably cannot imagine, things will go downhill.

This is why I hope for a pre-trib rapture, but with all the confusion I know I should probably look forward to what other interpretations are in case if there isn't a pre-trib rapture. Other than that I was hoping for it doesn't happen in my lifetime, but all this hope is just part of me trying to close my eyes in a sense.

Is everything really just around the corner? 5-10 years? Or do we probably have a lot of time left 100 years+. Jesus says we just won't know the exact day or hour, but with all the signs going on we can guestimate around how close we are.

I was told in a VISION, via a loud voice in 1986 that "The Man of Sin is here" that is all that was said, suffice it to say as a young Christian that bewildered me, I didn't know God was calling me to Prophecy, so I just like was.......OK What was that and ignored it. God I have come to understand usually affirms his intentions.......GET THIS....a week or two before Jimmy Swaggart fell from Grace I had another vision, I was in this HUGE AUDITORIUM, with like maybe 10 other people and he was preaching, to BASICALLY NOBODY !! That was God showing me he had lost his Ministry, at least at that time. So then I was like, oh my, that means the other VISION is true and he's in the world now !! I have only had like 4 or 5 visions in my life, it's a rarity.


I have been a believer for 18 years and spent that time not thinking much about the rapture due to the controversy surrounding its timing, however this past year I finally much in-depth study about it. Now I am totally confident in a pre-tribulation rapture, not because it makes me "feel better" or gives me a license to sin, as some argue, but because scripture is exceedingly clear about it.
Good job sister, it's VERY IMPORTANT because it sends one down wrong paths when misunderstood. Rev. 19 pretty much settles it, but it's throughout the scriptures.
 
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Well actually I think you misread my post but you can think as you wish. What I said is the pre trib Is Not Found in Mat 24. And it isn't. Matthew 24 is not speaking about an event where believers before the great tribulation are caught up in the air. Are you saying it is speaking of that ?
It is there, it is just not where it should be (between verses 14 and 15) because Jesus explained it only to Paul. It is seen in Matt. 24:36-51

I disagree. I believe that it is entirely ethical to expect exactly the same moral behaviour of homosexual people that we expect of heterosexual people. So the acceptance of homosexual marriage is the correct ethical and human rights decision. Moreover I do not regard the world to be any more immoral today than it has been in the past. In fact in many ways it is less immoral.

This is not Christian thinking in anywise. He who has that heart needs to take another look at himself, this is just way out there.
 
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