Americans are Not Sovereign on Immigration

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This is not really a partisan issue, although parties pretend it is to generate the appropriate talking points.

This is the matter of the unelected courts creating the law, sometimes in the dearth of Congressional resolve, but always in the face of executive order that tries to establish control.

It is very possible that the border in the south will become even more open as a result, in effect if not in ineffective law.

If Americans were sovereign, there might be some political solution, but as long as the courts decide, the law as interpreted by the courts cannot control the borders. Economic downturns slow the tide, but as long as the economy is better in the American temperate climes, the message of the caravan is clear enough. 'we are coming and you cannot stop us'.

We can argue that this will never happen, even as it is happening, but there is no reason to think that the status quo of millions entering relentlessly will not hold, as long as the poor Central Americans remain the same huge demographic that they now are.

The main difference between America and Mexicans is Mexicans. This is as true for North America as it is for Pakistan. Climate, access to natural resources, and ports, are similar in Pakistan and the American Pacific Northwest. There are huge markets in Asia near those ports too.
The difference between Oregon and Lahore is culture.

This is all to ask a question.

As America becomes more Mexican in culture, will the economic basis of America also become more Mexican? Will it become like Mexico is, and California is becoming, with a permanent underclass of underprivileged serving the wants and needs of a vastly wealthier upper class of 1%ers?
It doesn't take much of a pittance to be better than the Honduras economy after all, and the trajectory of all social programs is to be cut first, before privilege of the wealthy is cut.

The American Right used to hold the culture in America in the days of John Wayne. It was all about the world becoming American, and the Melting Pot. This did not control the immigration spigot to whatever the worst extremes of the Right (and racist Left too) may have wanted, but it did ensure the continuity of the American Ideal.
Post modernist Marxism loathes that American Ideal. They control the culture in America now, and Melting Pot is a quaint an idea as, well, John Wayne.

The lesson that the Marxist left learned from Venezuela was that America was the problem.

It logically follows then that if the American economic system is changed, the problem will be resolved. Ergo, a Mexican economy in America would be preferable for the Marxist intelligentsia in order to further that revolution.
This is not a problem for Marxists.

Half of the country is controlled by this cultural message put out by the post modernist left. That ought to be apparent by now with anyone with eyes.

Americans do not have sovereignty over their southern border. So, I don't blame Americans for not wanting to wonder what comes next, as Mexican culture becomes the under structure of many American states.
 
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Well I guess we can have unelected courts or we can have a president who does not understand the Constitution and separation of powers making decisions.
Anyway I live in California
California was part of Mexico until the US took it from Mexico. People who do not live here do not understand our culture. In many ways, Mexican culture is a perfectly good culture, with values of hospitality, respect for one's elders and strong family values. Yes, I think I do see more hospitality and taking the time to welcome people in California culture.
 
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This is the matter of the unelected courts creating the law, sometimes in the dearth of Congressional resolve, but always in the face of executive order that tries to establish control.

Provide an example of the courts creating the law as opposed to interpreting the law.

As for resolve, let's start with the government's utter failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform for the last couple of decades.
 
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As America becomes more Mexican in culture, will the economic basis of America also become more Mexican? Will it become like Mexico is, and California is becoming, with a permanent underclass of underprivileged serving the wants and needs of a vastly wealthier upper class of 1%ers?
It doesn't take much of a pittance to be better than the Honduras economy after all, and the trajectory of all social programs is to be cut first, before privilege of the wealthy is cut.

I submit the danger of a permanent underclass is not a result of migration, rather, it's a result of 40 years of conservative politics undermining the working class. There is a growing economic disparity in this country that transcends all cultures.
 
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I submit the danger of a permanent underclass is not a result of migration, rather, it's a result of 40 years of conservative politics undermining the working class. There is a growing economic disparity in this country that transcends all cultures.
A permanent underclass is thought to be a necessary and useful feature of corporate capitalism. The threat of demotion to that class is a tool to keep the working classes in line. Without it the workers would grow lazy and complacent.
 
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I submit the danger of a permanent underclass is not a result of migration, rather, it's a result of 40 years of conservative politics undermining the working class. There is a growing economic disparity in this country that transcends all cultures.

You got real funny definition of conservative politics.
 
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A permanent underclass is thought to be a necessary and useful feature of corporate capitalism. The threat of demotion to that class is a tool to keep the working classes in line. Without it the workers would grow lazy and complacent.

Or worse, uppity and demanding.
 
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