God and Time: Does God exist in all points in time?

SkyWriting · Nov 23, 2018

Oscarr said:
The evidence of Scripture shows fairly conclusively that God does not dwell at all points of time simultaneously. The concept is merely a science fantasy fable cooked up by some plonker philosopher who lacked basic language comprehension skills to be able to see clearly that the Bible shows God interacting with our past, present, and future, and that our past is His, our present is His, and our future will be His as well.

Sure, I can go over it again.
But I warn you, I don't preach much.
- plonker philosopher

This covers the duration for humans A to Z.

Revelation 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

Revelation 1:8
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 21:6
And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment.

Revelation 1:17
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last,

Isaiah 44:6
Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.

Revelation 1:18
And the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.

This covers the relationship between God and man's "time."

2 Peter 3:8
But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Ephesians 5:15-16
Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days are evil.

James 4:14
Yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes.

Ephesians 1:10
As a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

Mark 13:32
“But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Ecclesiastes 3:11
He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also, he has put eternity into man's heart, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.

Psalm 39:4-5
“O Lord, make me know my end and what is the measure of my days; let me know how fleeting I am! Behold, you have made my days a few handbreadths, and my lifetime is as nothing before you. Surely all mankind stands as a mere breath! Selah

This covers God knowing all about our timeline, beginning to end.

Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Ephesians 1:4
Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love

1 Peter 1:20
He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you

Isaiah 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’

1 Peter 1:2
According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you.

Revelation 13:8
And all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.

Romans 8:29-30
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Acts 2:23
This Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men.

Isaiah 41:4
Who has performed and done this, calling the generations from the beginning? I, the Lord, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Ephesians 1:5
He predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

Psalm 139:4
Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O Lord, you know it altogether.

Psalm 139:16
Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.

This covers how your past, present, and future, prayers have already been answered, you have only to Trust in what God has already answered.

Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Mark 11:24
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer,
believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

Matthew 6:7-8
7 “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.

8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

SkyWriting · Nov 23, 2018

Oscarr said:
It is more correct to say that the measurement of time is the property of the physical realm. I agree that time does not exist in eternity, but past, present, and future are absolutes and unchangeable and exist in eternity just the same as they exist in the physical realm. As I keep saying, God cannot exist if the past, present, and future were all the same in Heaven. The book of Revelation shows that there is a succession of events in Heaven, and that is outside of our physical realm, and Heaven is where the throne of God is. Unless the God on the throne in Heaven is just a cardboard replica and the real God is someone in some science fantasy dimension where past, present and future are all jumbled up.

There is no scripture regarding jumbled time. But since we measure time by it's decay, it should become clear, eventually, that God is not subject to time.

Matthew 6:7-8
7 “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.
8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Bible Highlighter · Nov 23, 2018

ToBeLoved said:
I was on topic.

It’s a holiday. Don’t be so rude.

I think I’ll stay on the thread. Kthxbai

I don't believe I was being rude. Your topic of discussion is about "What You said vs. what I said" type conversation. Your discussion was not about time really. Before you thought I was proposing that you believed time was a certain way. The most popular view is GOD is outside of time. I was offering the proposed popular opinion or theories to this in trying to explain how you see God contrary to my view on time. I was not actually saying that you actually did believe these proposed theories on time I said. I may have offered them as explanations to help understand your view. The discussion has turned into a did I say I believe that? When I was not saying you believed that particular belief as cold hard fact. I was discussing the problems behind the popular proposed ideas on time already presented by others. I was hoping that you would offer your own opinion on explaining things in regards to GOD and time. But you seem more focused on trying to see in error in something I said rather than participating in the discussion on GOD and time. I am hoping that will change. So I will ask you again: What is your view on GOD and time?

Bible Highlighter · Nov 23, 2018

SkyWriting said:
Our universe is real.

Then time is not an illusion because God time keeping for us as a part of the universe in the beginning (in Genesis chapter 1). He told us about "Day 1," "Day 2," etc. and He put the sun and the moon as markers to divide up the light from the dark and to signify a day. He created the seasons as a means of dividing up the year into increments of time. So time is not an illusion. God wanted us to measure these things from the very beginning.

Bible Highlighter · Nov 23, 2018

Blade said:
I think time is like a line... and He is out side.. so.. He is NOW in the past.. and HE is NOW and He is also NOW in the future. I heard one preacher say.. KNOWING it was not written and was only putting it out there.. that what GOD really show'd Moshe(Moses).. well if you really search it was not "Gods back side" ..any way this preacher said.. he believed that MAYBE what God show'd him was.. when Jesus went up and transfiguration? Where Moses stepped out? Well when Moses came back.. He had to have this head covered.. for he lit up like a light bulb.

Not saying I believe that ...but.. I do like it.. kinda really makes you THINK about TIME..where God is out side of time.

This suggests that the line (our linear time) exists physically in the future for GOD, even though we have not experienced the future yet (which is a contradiction). The question then remains is HOW does GOD experience time in the future with us, if we only exist in the present and we not having experienced the future yet? Are we living this life over again? Did GOD create another disposable parallel dimension of time (Whereby all future events have already happened)? Is it even possible for all future events to happen? Is not the future never ending and forever?

Bible Highlighter · Nov 23, 2018

SkyWriting said:
Our universe is real.

So then our bodies are not sitting somewhere else like in the Matrix, and we are really living out a real life and we are not living out a lie or an illusion (like those individuals in the Matrix).

SkyWriting · Nov 23, 2018

Jason0047 said:
So then our bodies are not sitting somewhere else like in the Matrix, and we are really living out a real life and we are not living out a lie or an illusion (like those individuals in the Matrix).

Not sure where you got that.
My DVD's are downstairs.

Bible Highlighter · Nov 23, 2018

SkyWriting said:
Sure, I can go over it again.
But I warn you, I don't preach much.
- plonker philosopher

This covers the duration for humans A to Z.

Revelation 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

Revelation 1:8
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 21:6
And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment.

Revelation 1:17
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last,

Isaiah 44:6
Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.

Revelation 1:18
And the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.

GOD being our "Alpha" or our "First" or our "Beginning" is in regards to our coming into this physical world (when we were conceived in our mother's womb). The "Omega" or the "Last" or the "End" is in regards to our death or physical end here on this Earth. GOD is the giver and taker of life. He is in control of life and death. The Alpha and the Omega. Scriptures says GOD will live with the saints for eternity on the New Earth. So there is not going to be an end for mankind with GOD alone just existing in Eternity's Future.

• Revelation 22:3 b, Revelation 22:5 b

"...and his servants shall serve him:" ... "and they shall reign for ever and ever."

• Daniel 7:14 ESV

"And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed."

• Isaiah 9:6-7

"...unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever."

You said:
This covers the relationship between God and man's "time."

2 Peter 3:8
But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

This is merely talking about GOD's perception of time and it does not mention how He is outside of time. It is saying that to GOD a day can be like a thousand years (Because GOD is doing so much even in one day on our Earth), and a thousand years can be like a day to Him because He has existed since Eternity's Past and 6,000 years is nothing by comparison to that.

You said:
Ephesians 5:15-16
Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days are evil.

James 4:14
Yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes.

These two verses only mentions our time; Nothing is said about how there is a version of time for God that is different than ours.

You said:
Ephesians 1:10
As a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

Time is only mentioned as being singular here. It is not saying there is a time in Heaven and a time on Earth that is different.

You said:
Mark 13:32
“But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure" (Isaiah 46:10).

So GOD declares the end those things that have not happened yet. So the hour of the coming of the Son of man is a future day that has not yet happened yet (Either for GOD or us). GOD is able to perfectly see this day happen in every detail, but it has not happened yet.

GOD declares something before it comes to pass.

"I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them." (Isaiah 48:5).

You said:
Ecclesiastes 3:11
He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also, he has put eternity into man's heart, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.

In this case, I think the following translations help to clarify this verse better in light of the context.

"He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end." (Ecclesiastes 3:11) (KJV).

"He has made every thing beautiful in his time: even the world he has given over to their will, in such a way that no man can attain to this work that God makes from the beginning to the end." (Ecclesiastes 3:11) (Jubilee Bible 2000).

"He hath made all things good in their time, and hath delivered the world to their consideration, so that man cannot flnd out the work which God hath made from the beginning to the end." (Ecclesiastes 3:11) (Douay-Rheims Bible).

You said:
Psalm 39:4-5
“O Lord, make me know my end and what is the measure of my days; let me know how fleeting I am! Behold, you have made my days a few handbreadths, and my lifetime is as nothing before you. Surely all mankind stands as a mere breath! Selah

Again, only the perception of time is mentioned here and it is not talking about how GOD has already experienced the future already.

You said:
This covers God knowing all about our timeline, beginning to end.

Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Ephesians 1:4
Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love

1 Peter 1:20
He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you

Isaiah 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’

1 Peter 1:2
According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you.

Revelation 13:8
And all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.

Romans 8:29-30
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Acts 2:23
This Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men.

Isaiah 41:4
Who has performed and done this, calling the generations from the beginning? I, the Lord, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Ephesians 1:5
He predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

Psalm 139:4
Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O Lord, you know it altogether.

Psalm 139:16
Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.

GOD knowing about our future does not equate with Him having to actually be in the future in order to know about it. In fact, again, Scripture says GOD declares the end before those things actually occur (See: Isaiah 46:10 and Isaiah 48:5).

You said:
This covers how your past, present, and future, prayers have already been answered, you have only to Trust in what God has already answered.

Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

The word "should" is in this verse. So this is not declaring it as fact that we will do these things. GOD has work prepared for us beforehand and that we SHOULD walk in them. So it is not a guarantee mentioned here. Also, this is not exactly talking about prayer here exclusively, either. It is talking about obeying the commands in the New Testament that come from Jesus Christ and His followers (according to His Word and the Spirit). It is talking about our "work for God" in general.

You said:
Mark 11:24
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer,
believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

I think this only applies if we are praying in seeking God's will. If we are truly listening to GOD, we will know what to pray for and what not to pray for.

Romans 8
26 "Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God."

Those who are not listening to God's voice and who are not seeking God's will can pray and believe their own desire all they want and that thing will not come to pass for them because they are not hearing or listening to God. Sometimes God says..."no" and sometimes God says.... "yes."

In any event, this verse does not mention how God is existing in some future time answering our prayers. This verse simply does not say that. Based on the whole of Scripture, we know God is simply aware of future events and or what men will think, say, or do, or pray.

You said:
Matthew 6:7-8
7 “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.

8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Just because God knows what we are going to pray, does not mean that He is existing in some future timeline.

Bible Highlighter · Nov 23, 2018

SkyWriting said:
Not sure where you got that.
My DVD's are downstairs.

You said before that time is an illusion. Time keeping is something we do as a part of this real world. Time keeping (Time) is something established by GOD in the very first page of Genesis 1 (i.e. Day 1, Day 2, seasons, etc.).

Presbyterian Continuist · Nov 23, 2018

SkyWriting said:
There is no scripture regarding jumbled time. But since we measure time by it's decay, it should become clear, eventually, that God is not subject to time.

Matthew 6:7-8
7 “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.
8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

What's that Scripture got to do with what we are discussing? It seems that you have tacked on some reference to try and prove some sort of point, but I have no idea what it is.

However, God is not subject to decay, so the point in your first sentence is fairly obscure as well.

Presbyterian Continuist · Nov 23, 2018

SkyWriting said:
Sure, I can go over it again.
But I warn you, I don't preach much.
- plonker philosopher

This covers the duration for humans A to Z.

Revelation 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

Revelation 1:8
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 21:6
And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment.

Revelation 1:17
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last,

Isaiah 44:6
Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.

Revelation 1:18
And the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.

This covers the relationship between God and man's "time."

2 Peter 3:8
But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Ephesians 5:15-16
Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days are evil.

James 4:14
Yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes.

Ephesians 1:10
As a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

Mark 13:32
“But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Ecclesiastes 3:11
He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also, he has put eternity into man's heart, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.

Psalm 39:4-5
“O Lord, make me know my end and what is the measure of my days; let me know how fleeting I am! Behold, you have made my days a few handbreadths, and my lifetime is as nothing before you. Surely all mankind stands as a mere breath! Selah

This covers God knowing all about our timeline, beginning to end.

Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Ephesians 1:4
Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love

1 Peter 1:20
He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you

Isaiah 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’

1 Peter 1:2
According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you.

Revelation 13:8
And all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.

Romans 8:29-30
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Acts 2:23
This Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men.

Isaiah 41:4
Who has performed and done this, calling the generations from the beginning? I, the Lord, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Ephesians 1:5
He predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

Psalm 139:4
Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O Lord, you know it altogether.

Psalm 139:16
Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.

This covers how your past, present, and future, prayers have already been answered, you have only to Trust in what God has already answered.

Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Mark 11:24
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer,
believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

Matthew 6:7-8
7 “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.

8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

What you have proved is that God has an awareness of past and future, because the Scripture speaks of the foreknowledge of God. And the 1000 years is as one day to God is because He doesn't measure time, so the duration of time means nothing to Him, because eternity for Him will never run out.

In actual fact, we will never be able to understand the full nature of character of God, because our minds are limited, so the debate about God and time will never be satisfactorily concluded because in reality, we don't actually know. We can only guess. If we read the Bible as it is written, God represents Himself to us as being aware of the past and has a foreknowledge of the future (because He has plans for the future which He intends to fulfill).

SkyWriting · Nov 23, 2018

Oscarr said:
What you have proved is that God has an awareness of past and future, because the Scripture speaks of the foreknowledge of God. And the 1000 years is as one day to God is because He doesn't measure time, so the duration of time means nothing to Him, because eternity for Him will never run out.

In actual fact, we will never be able to understand the full nature of character of God, because our minds are limited, so the debate about God and time will never be satisfactorily concluded because in reality, we don't actually know. We can only guess. If we read the Bible as it is written, God represents Himself to us as being aware of the past and has a foreknowledge of the future (because He has plans for the future which He intends to fulfill).

I never prove anything, so keep that in mind.

So you're half way to my position, which is fine with me.
God not being subject to time solves too many problems
for me to change back.

No scripture does not say God is not subject to time.
The writers of scripture expected Jesus to return
before they died...so.....they did not have a handle on it.

ToBeLoved · Nov 23, 2018

Jason0047 said:
I don't believe I was being rude. Your topic of discussion is about "What You said vs. what I said" type conversation. Your discussion was not about time really. Before you thought I was proposing that you believed time was a certain way. The most popular view is GOD is outside of time. I was offering the proposed popular opinion or theories to this in trying to explain how you see God contrary to my view on time. I was not actually saying that you actually did believe these proposed theories on time I said. I may have offered them as explanations to help understand your view. The discussion has turned into a did I say I believe that? When I was not saying you believed that particular belief as cold hard fact. I was discussing the problems behind the popular proposed ideas on time already presented by others. I was hoping that you would offer your own opinion on explaining things in regards to GOD and time. But you seem more focused on trying to see in error in something I said rather than participating in the discussion on GOD and time. I am hoping that will change. So I will ask you again: What is your view on GOD and time?

I’ve already talked at length about what I think.

Maybe you are so wrapped up in your own thoughts that you’re not reading or even contemplating what anyone else is writing.

My second point is that if people take the time to write and explain their viewpoints, it’s not well received when so often it is in error.

No one likes to have their views misrepresented when they have taken the time to post and explain themselves and instead of letting their posts stand as they are you seem to feel you have to
Speak for others. But that’s not true. No one is asking or seems to like this.

Bible Highlighter · Nov 23, 2018

ToBeLoved said:
I’ve already talked at length about what I think.

Maybe you are so wrapped up in your own thoughts that you’re not reading or even contemplating what anyone else is writing.

My second point is that if people take the time to write and explain their viewpoints, it’s not well received when so often it is in error.

No one likes to have their views misrepresented when they have taken the time to post and explain themselves and instead of letting their posts stand as they are you seem to feel you have to
Speak for others. But that’s not true. No one is asking or seems to like this.

Again, stop making it about me. That is not the discussion of this thread. If you want to discuss the topic, then please share your belief on “God and Time” with Scripture. So far, I have not seen you do that. Maybe I missed your post or posts. If so, then point me to the post #(s).

SkyWriting · Nov 24, 2018

ToBeLoved said:
No one likes to have their views misrepresented when they have taken the time to post and explain themselves and instead of letting their posts stand as they are you seem to feel you have to

The benefit of having views misrepresented is feedback. Feedback is very useful.
I love the opportunity to explain things in a different way.

ToBeLoved · Nov 24, 2018

Jason0047 said:
Again, stop making it about me. That is not the discussion of this thread. If you want to discuss the topic, then please share your belief on “God and Time” with Scripture. So far, I have not seen you do that. Maybe I missed your post or posts. If so, then point me to the post #(s).

It is if you are incorrectly summarizing beliefs. That puts the person being summarized in a position where they correct the inaccuracies.

Maybe if you stop doing that, you and others will enjoy the threads more

ToBeLoved · Nov 24, 2018

SkyWriting said:
The benefit of having views misrepresented is feedback. Feedback is very useful.
I love the opportunity to explain things in a different way.

It is ok sometimes but when an individual consistently does it it is not helpful

SkyWriting · Nov 24, 2018

ToBeLoved said:
It is ok sometimes but when an individual consistently does it it is not helpful

There are online blocking tools built into the forum
and other methods like ignoring posts mentally
that works even better.

Bible Highlighter · Nov 24, 2018

ToBeLoved said:
It is if you are incorrectly summarizing beliefs. That puts the person being summarized in a position where they correct the inaccuracies.

Maybe if you stop doing that, you and others will enjoy the threads more

Don't agree with you said here. Labeling or categorizing beliefs is not wrong. The Bible teaches a certain set of beliefs. To teach outside of that is to teach whatever one pleases. This is not what I believe is the ways of the teachings of God.

Anyways, your not appearing to get what I am trying to say and you don't agree with what I write, then I think it is best we do not converse then (At least on this topic anyways).

May God bless you.

mark kennedy · Nov 24, 2018

ToBeLoved said:
It is if you are incorrectly summarizing beliefs. That puts the person being summarized in a position where they correct the inaccuracies.

Maybe if you stop doing that, you and others will enjoy the threads more

Having fun with Jason I see, you got it, he is big on that.

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