Missy-
You will note that what I provided is not "Catholic," so that I won't be accussed of being a parrot.
You will note that what I provided is not "Catholic," so that I won't be accussed of being a parrot.
Upvote
0
Today at 02:16 PM Chrisopher Paul said this in Post #52
Sure Missy, read John 6. The Eucharist is all right there. "This IS my Body" etc...
And if you want a nice destruction of the lie put forth about Pagan practices:
http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_04_02_04.html
"In spite of having been pronounced dead even by intelligent skeptics, the thesis that Judaism and Christianity consist merely of stolen pagan myths and ideas continues to be promulgated by the uncritical and accepted by the gullible. Acharya S and her Christ Conspiracy are simply the latest recycling of the general thesis, but now, even Robert Price has promulgated aspects of it in his Deconstructing Jesus."
Specifically, this deal with the lie of Mithral influences:
http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_04_02_04_MMM.html
Yesterday at 08:32 PM Ruhama said this in Post #55
@Simchat and Missy -
Granted the Torah is more direct but my point was specifically: what is the standard by which we judge what is command and what isn't? By one standard, both may be commands. Or taken in the opposite extreme, both may be adopted from paganism. I take neither view, but what I'm saying is that it's easy to have a double standard with regard to the veracity of commandments.
Also... I'm wondering about the evidence Simchat posted - where was it again? I'm a skeptic whenever it comes to things like this and the bit about the Dionysian cult didn't convince me, so I'm wondering if I missed something.
Yesterday at 10:23 PM Lotuspetal_uk said this in Post #108
This has been a very interesting read! (head hurting with all the new info)
For the Messianic Gentiles: In light of what was originally written, can you clarify what you now do in terms of "communion" (although technically not communion if you know what I mean) during a sabbath service. I think (from what I read here) that Messianic Gentiles do not have communion per se but am unclear on what the Early Church did.
Would I be correct in thinking that Passover would be the only time in the year when Christ's return is remembered?
This information is so cool! A big light bulb switched on when reading this thread because as a Baptist I was taught that the bread and wine at communion was NOT Jesus' flesh and blood nor a spiritual representation of it. But that it was an act/command we carried out in remembrance of what Christ did until He returned. It's thus very interesting how customs have diversified with time, almost like the game 'Chinese whispers'.
It would be really great if we could get back to the original topic because this information is completely new to me and I would like to learn more.
God bless everyone!
The eating of Challah and drinking of wine on the Sabbath could be considered "communion" but I highly doubt Messianic Jews or Gentiles like to refer to it as that so it will not be confused with the concept of Christian communion. The early church observed what every other Jew did.. that is have challah and wine on the sabbath. This was not considered "communion" in the way that Christians experience it. It is part of the meal at dinner that one shares along with family and or family and friends. It is a communion in the sense of the fact that people are eating together and sharing the in the commandment to keep the sabbath holy. But Yeshua of course is not an issue at all in Orthodox Jewish tradition. In the Messianic belief of course Yeshua is a part of everything but he is not the reason why bread and wine are eaten on the sabbath by Messianics. So no, communion in the Christian sense isn't even a factor for the majority of Messianic believers.
But there are some Messianic congregations that do accept the Christian concept of "communion" but they put their own spin on it tying it with Judaism.. and this practice by these particular Messianics is not the norm at all.
In the Messianic community, Yeshua is remember constantly. It is not on a special holiday that he is remembered. He is the center of Messianic life and is honored and remember everyday. Hence the name "Messianic".
Missy