Evolution according to Scotty Kilmer--has Masters degree in--common sense

Shemjaza said:

I'm predicting some combination of:
"you people are deceived",
"Evolution is just so people can sin"
"I know science and these important people agree with me."
Also
"You are all atheists"

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Quite presumptuous I must say.
I would refrain from predicting if I were you.

ItIsFinished! said:

You make a valid point.
Usually I use the term falsehood rather then lie.

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Now you need to demonstrate that it's a falsehood rather than merely assrting it.

USincognito said:

An "I know you are, but what am I" retort does not demonstrate that you understand evolution or what a scientific theory is.

As far as bona fides go, I've been a member of CF (and participating in the Crevo debate) for more for more YEARS than you have WEEKS. My chops are well established among the regulars.

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Your pride shines brightly.
Thank you for the ridiculous capitalization of the words years and weeks.
Doesn't prove squat dilly doo.
And I am not impressed in the least about your chops or how well established you are among the regulars.
If you adhere to the falsehoods of evolution you do not impress me one bit friend.
Carry on.

USincognito said:

Now you need to demonstrate that it's a falsehood rather than merely assrting it.

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No.
You need to prove it isn't.
Please demonstrate the truth of evolution.
After all , isnt there billions of years to provide such evidence???

Aman777 said:

I notice that you didn't have a Kangaroo post a reply to me. How long do you think it will take that animal to evolve the intelligence necessary to reply? Answer: Never, since mindless nature does not evolve superior intelligence in any animal. It's proof that evolution is a made up, false notion of people who have rejected God's Truth.

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Are you for real? You think that human level intelligence is the criteria for evolution?

Once again you show you have no idea what you are talking about.

ItIsFinished! said:

Your pride shines brightly.
Thank you for the ridiculous capitalization of the words years and weeks.
Doesn't prove squat dilly doo.
And I am not impressed in the least about your chops or how well established you are among the regulars.
If you adhere to the falsehoods of evolution you do not impress me one bit friend.
Carry on.

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Why are you still talking about me instead of demonstraing that you understand evolution (well enough to have an opinion about it) and that you understand what a scientific theory is?

USincognito said:

Why are you still talking about me instead of demonstraing that you understand evolution (well enough to have an opinion about it) and that you understand what a scientific theory is?

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I'm just responding to the talking .
I understand the theory of evolution to be very, very, very weak.
Why?
Because it doesn't exist in reality.
It is a falsehood.
Absolutely no credible evidence to support the falsehoods of evolution on any scale .
I do not adhere to an opinion about the ridiculous evolution theory , but rather disregard it as garbage .
Because that is exactly what it is.
And don't flatter yourself which you seem to do , because it isn't about you , but rather the absolutely ridiculous falsehoods that accompany the evolution theory.

ItIsFinished! said:

No.

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Petulance isn't a virtue.

You need to prove it isn't.

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Why do so many Creationists have such trouble with this? You have made the assertion the evolution, the keystone to our understanding of biology is "ridiculous" and a falsehood so it is up to you to support those assertions.

Please demonstrate the truth of evolution.

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A. Where did you get the cockamamie notion that science deals in "truth" which is in the wheelhouse of philosophy?
B. As I explained previously you're 15 years too late to the party. We've been discussing the evidence for evolution this whole time. Your ignorance of that evidence is your problem, not ours.
C. I do have a thread I'll bump and tag you in. We'll see if there's anything behind your bluff and bluster.

After all , isnt there billions of years to provide such evidence???

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No. But there is billions of years worth of evidence that has been provided.

Speedwell said:

Why does it have to be a lie (an intentional falsehood) rather than just wrong? Who's lying and why?

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The ToE is a lie because today's evolutionists have been told the Truth and rejected it:

2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world (kosmos) that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (totally utterly destroyed)

To be willingly ignorant is to have been told and to to reject the Truth. Until the evolution lie was proclaimed, it was descent with modification within kinds. Today's scientists are willingly ignorant that Adam's firmament/Heaven was totally destroyed in the flood. Do you believe that or are you one of the Scoffers of the last days?

Aman777 said:

False, since Adam, the first Human was made BEFORE any other living creature, before plants, herbs, rain and trees. Genesis 2:4-7 The last universal common ancestor was created from WATER Genesis 1:21 but Humans were made from the Dust. Try again?

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I haven’t heard that view before - even if you take the genesis account to be a literal description, Adam comes last.

Kylie said:

Are you for real? You think that human level intelligence is the criteria for evolution?

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No. Evolution is a man made concept. It exists only in the minds of those who have FAITH in it instead of what God told us. Evolution is mindless, has no intelligence and no power to do anything. It's a false assumption of misguided mankind.

Kylie said:

Once again you show you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Is that your latest excuse for not being able to refute me Scripturally, scientifically or historically? Of course it is. God bless you

Tom Farebrother said:

I haven’t heard that view before - even if you take the genesis account to be a literal description, Adam comes last.

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Only if you read the outline of the Bible shown in Genesis chapter one. From Genesis 2:4 until the end of Revelation, we find the details of chapter one. Genesis 2:4-9 shows that Adam was made the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants, herbs, rain and trees. The trees, which GREW on the 3rd Day Genesis 1:12 were made AFTER Adam was made.

Adam was "created" by God the Trinity, or born again Spiritually in Christ on the present 6th Day/Age Genesis 1:27 Genesis 5:1-2 John 14:16 which is the Day of Salvation, according to the Lord. 2Co 6:2 Adam AND Eve were created in Christ at the SAME time on the present 6th Day AND Eve was not made until the 6th Day. Gen 2:22

USincognito said:

Petulance isn't a virtue.



Why do so many Creationists have such trouble with this? You have made the assertion the evolution, the keystone to our understanding of biology is "ridiculous" and a falsehood so it is up to you to support those assertions.



A. Where did you get the cockamamie notion that science deals in "truth" which is in the wheelhouse of philosophy?
B. As I explained previously you're 15 years too late to the party. We've been discussing the evidence for evolution this whole time. Your ignorance of that evidence is your problem, not ours.
C. I do have a thread I'll bump and tag you in. We'll see if there's anything behind your bluff and bluster.


No. But there is billions of years worth of evidence that has been provided.

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Thanks for your unneeded alphabet letters and the dead end that arrives at the falsehoods of evolution.
No party , therefore not late.
Use the 15 years for something substantial.
No evidence, therefore NO ignorance.
Evolution is a MYTH.
And , a very sad desperate one at that.
And , where did I ever state that science deals with truth?
Where?
Oh, and there is absolutely no billions of years of evidence.
That is quite absurd.

Aman777 said:

Only if you read the outline of the Bible shown in Genesis chapter one. From Genesis 2:4 until the end of Revelation, we find the details of chapter one. Genesis 2:4-9 shows that Adam was made the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants, herbs, rain and trees. The trees, which GREW on the 3rd Day Genesis 1:12 were made AFTER Adam was made.

Adam was "created" by God the Trinity, or born again Spiritually in Christ on the present 6th Day/Age Genesis 1:27 Genesis 5:1-2 John 14:16 which is the Day of Salvation, according to the Lord. 2Co 6:2 Adam AND Eve were created in Christ at the SAME time on the present 6th Day AND Eve was not made until the 6th Day. Gen 2:22

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Not sure if that follows - ‘then’ in verse 7 seems to connect up the story of Adam with the summary of all that went before, in verses 4-6, a summary of chapter 1.

Tom Farebrother said:

Not sure if that follows - ‘then’ in verse 7 seems to connect up the story of Adam with the summary of all that went before, in verses 4-6, a summary of chapter 1.

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Sure it does. Adam was made from the dust by Lord God/Jesus. Genesis 2:7 Adam is one of HIS kinds. Adam was later "created" eternally by God the Trinity (Elohim) or THEIR kinds. Genesis 1:27 Adam/mankind is STILL being created eternally by God the Trinity.

ItIsFinished! said:

I'm just responding to the talking .

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Substance free bloviation is hardly a response.

I understand the theory of evolution to be very, very, very weak.
Why?
Because it doesn't exist in reality.
It is a falsehood.
Absolutely no credible evidence to support the falsehoods of evolution on any scale .
I do not adhere to an opinion about the ridiculous evolution theory , but rather disregard it as garbage .
Because that is exactly what it is.
And don't flatter yourself which you seem to do , because it isn't about you , but rather the absolutely ridiculous falsehoods that accompany the evolution theory.

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This is all substance free blather.

You need demonstrate that you actually understand evolution enough in your own words to have an opinion, much less an informed one, about it.
1. Explain in your own words what evolution is.
2. Explain in your own words what a scientific theory is.
Bonus points - explain, scientifically the following:
Why are moles more closely related to bats and cats than to marsupial moles?
Why do all Haplorhine primates share a broken GULO gene?
Why do cetaceans have a broken Shh/Hand2 gene pathway and briefly develop hind limbs in utero?
Why are marsupials found extant only in Australia and the Americas and fossilized in Antarctica?

ItIsFinished! said:

Thanks for your unneeded alphabet letters and the dead end that arrives at the falsehoods of evolution.

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Since you have exhibited zero understanding of evolution what makes you sure there are any falsehoods? And why do bluff and bluster Creationists always allude to things instead of simply stating them. If you think there are falsehoods, list them.

No evidence, therefore NO ignorance.
Evolution is a MYTH.
And , a very sad desperate one at that.

Oh, and there is absolutely no billions of years of evidence.
That is quite absurd.

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More bluster and vacuous rheteric. You need to actually address the evidence. Hand waving and shouting "Nuh uh!" isn't enough

ItIsFinished! said:

I'm just responding to the talking .
I understand the theory of evolution to be very, very, very weak.
Why?

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Okay, great -- tell us why you understand that it's weak.

ItIsFinished! said:

Because it doesn't exist in reality.
It is a falsehood.

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That's not an explanation. That's just a restatement of your claim.

ItIsFinished! said:

Absolutely no credible evidence to support the falsehoods of evolution on any scale .

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Okay, such a sweeping claim means you must be thoroughly familiar with absolutely all of the alleged evidence for evolution, and have evaluated it all. (Assuming you actually know what you're talking about, as you say you do, that is.) So now would be a good time to explain why some specific pieces of evidence fail to support evolution. One of my favorite pieces is the transition-transversion ratio for single base differences between humans and chimpanzees. Evolution tells us what that ratio must be, and empirical data shows that the prediction is correct. What alternative explanation have you come up with for this piece of evidence?

ItIsFinished! said:

I'm just responding to the talking .
I understand the theory of evolution to be very, very, very weak.
Why?
Because it doesn't exist in reality.
It is a falsehood.
Absolutely no credible evidence to support the falsehoods of evolution on any scale .
I do not adhere to an opinion about the ridiculous evolution theory , but rather disregard it as garbage .
Because that is exactly what it is.
And don't flatter yourself which you seem to do , because it isn't about you , but rather the absolutely ridiculous falsehoods that accompany the evolution theory.

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I can see that you follow the Wendy Wright school of debate.

Its not healthy to engage in rational argument with people who've decided in advance that their theological commitments will trump any contrary observations or reasoning.