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If you believe the gospel, you have it. That is why you believe.And how does that new nature come about?
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If you believe the gospel, you have it. That is why you believe.And how does that new nature come about?
If you believe the gospel, you have it. That is why you believe.
For me, we do them by simply doing what God tells us to do, it's completely up to us whether we do or not.
Are you actually saying that if we do nothing, then God didn't do any works through us so in turn, we don't have to worry about it? That would be way to convenient for me.
Also, and very important, did you not notice how you changed the wording of the bible there? Can you please show me the following scripture, and prove me wrong:
Faith without the works of the Holy Spirit is dead. Faith without the fruit of the Holy Spirit is dead.
You are born again or you could not believe. More importantly, Christ died especially for you or you could not believe.So YOU have to DO something...
I don't think it works like that at all. When I was Luciferian, I was of the strange sort who believed the gospel and yet who chose to worship Lucifer for power and knowledge anyway. Believing it was true didn't save me. Instead, God turning my heart to repentance and changing me into a new creature saved me.If you believe the gospel, you have it. That is why you believe.
I'd rather take Paul's word for it.But if faith becomes a condition you must meet for salvation, the gospel becomes law and faith becomes a work.
Faith without works is dead, but faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, which God must provide before you can believe in any true sense.
When Deity talks about "Hating", you can still Love someone and hate them at the same time like we are to "hate our whole family, yet Love them also".God hates the wicked.
But faith/faithfulness is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. So we must have the Holy Spirit before faith/faithfulness exists in us.I'd rather take Paul's word for it.
Ephesians 2:8-9"Grace" is not a work, "faith" is not a work but they are required for salvation.
(8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
(9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Mark 11:22We are commanded to have faith.
(22) And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. We are commanded to live by faith. Evidently one can choose to not live by faith.
Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.Faith is distinct from the works of the law.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.How we obtain faith.
1 Corinthians 16:13 Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong.We are commanded to stand fast in the faith. Evidently one can refrain from standing fast in the faith.
1 Timothy 5:12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.Evidently one can cast off their faith.
But God hates the wicked in some pretty serious ways without the least love for them.When Deity talks about "Hating", you can still Love someone and hate them at the same time like we are to "hate our whole family, yet Love them also".
“for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.” (Philippians 2:13) (NASB95)The scripture I read is "Faith without works is dead" period. That is a provable thing, something we can all see, faith in action. Introducing the Holy Spirit into it as you have, leaves all open to doing nothing, and claiming it's the fault of the holy spirit.
Please answer this, are you saying whatever works we do is not of our free will but the Holy Spirit, and if we do nothing, then the Holy Spirit did nothing through us, and all is well?
I will answer...The scripture I read is "Faith without works is dead" period. That is a provable thing, something we can all see, faith in action. Introducing the Holy Spirit into it as you have, leaves all open to doing nothing, and claiming it's the fault of the holy spirit.
Please answer this, are you saying whatever works we do is not of our free will but the Holy Spirit, and if we do nothing, then the Holy Spirit did nothing through us, and all is well?
(8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
“for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.” (Philippians 2:13) (NASB95)
lease answer this, are you saying whatever works we do is not of our free will but the Holy Spirit, and if we do nothing, then the Holy Spirit did nothing through us, and all is well?
But faith/faithfulness is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. So we must have the Holy Spirit before faith/faithfulness exists in us.
I will answer...
If nothing is done through you to declare the glory of God, rest assured that you are not saved and in you is NOT the Holy Spirit. That is my view.
Those who are born again have good fruits, not of themselves but of God, who lives in them by way of the Holy Spirit, and because of Jesus Christ.
Please answer this, are you saying whatever works we do is not of our free will but the Holy Spirit, and if we do nothing, then the Holy Spirit did nothing through us, and all is well?
How does this not answer your question?You didn't answer the question, not even close:
But if you aren't going to answer directly, and do as I've seen others do here, and throw scripture out there that doesn't address it at all and call that an answer, fine. Just know I won't ask again, and your lack of an answer means you won't, and not that you have answered.
If salvation depends on a person'e free choice, the gospel becomes law and the choice becomes a work.