possibly . but can yu make that judgment
I see a difference too, that was the point of my last post. BTW our old pastor happened to get 'baptized by the Spirit with tongues' while attending a Baptist divinity school....your denominational preference, as well as his, growing up.
But that was decades ago when God was pouring out the availability of his Spirit upon the whole body/church, and many in the "ungifted/unlearned" denominations received. Unfortunately IMO many still refused. But I do consider myself fortunate to have seen so many of them transformed in the 70's. Our old pastor also shared how he actually led his divinity school roommate to the Lord. Always made me wonder how many Baptist pastors 'got through' just thinking they were also 'saved' too? I'm not saying I think there's tons, just making a point. And also admitting that there is no perfect church period. When I first started coming to Christian Forums 15 years ago, I was amazed at all the terms I was truly ignorant of. Terms like Soteriology, Apologetics, Hamartioloy etc . Then it came to me one day.....and I just laughed, and said to myself; "I guess fundamentalists do speak in 'tongues'...kinda, sorta."
in your "opinion" ..what does it matter? what maters is that the believer then is born of the holy Spirit and goes on to live increasingly free from sin and increasingly engage in works of righteousness ..as out lined by the great commission .
they will do that .. but that does not automaticly mean everything else is of the devil . tell me how do you minister the gospel to people ? when they are hungry you feed them yes? if naked you clothe them yes ..
OK Alithis, remember we're 'getting along' now.
But I respectfully disagree, based upon......surprise.......scripture. 
im supporting obedience to the gospel and obedience of the faith
not every one i pray for gets healed . iv seen many many healings including that deaf girl from birth who now hears . shall i cease believing because "one" does not ? -OK Alithis, remember we're 'getting along' now.
2TI 4:20 Erastus abode at Corinth: but Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick.
If Paul said this guys was "sick" then I believe he was sick. I also think it is ridiculous to think that the apostles were Jesus Christ. They walked by faith, sometimes big faith sometimes not so big. They were no different than any other repentant, born again, water baptized, Spirit baptized believer today. A greater calling, for sure, but they weren't Jesus and they weren't "perfect" even as Paul confesses . I actually take comfort in knowing this fact. Otherwise, why even try to do what Paul above' admits didn't happen, when he prayed for Trophimus. And PLEASE don't post back and say the bible doesn't SAY Paul didn't try. I think it is pretty much confirmed by 'not already perfect' Paul.
PHI 3:12 Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect; but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. 13 Brethren, I do not consider that I have made it my own; but one thing I do, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let those of us who are MATURE be thus minded; and if in anything you are otherwise minded, God will reveal that also to you.
And as you may know, to be MATURE minded requires multiple baptisms according to scripture. And they don't even believe in one baptism they lack 'belief in', let alone 'faith for'. The baptism which we so richly do enjoy.
of course not .
