We’re Ready to Rebuild the Third Temple

Bible2+ · Nov 14, 2018

Yekcidmij said in post #134:

I think that "coming on the clouds" is a coming of judgment, which happened on Jerusalem and Israel in AD 66-73.

Matthew 24:30 refers to Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming, when He will appear in the clouds of the sky, the first heaven: "they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Matthew 24:30). And this will not occur until immediately after the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6). Matthew 24:30 will occur at the same time as the future Matthew 24:29 and Matthew 24:31.

The "sign of the Son of man" (Matthew 24:30a), if it is not the sign of the Cross, can be the appearance of Jesus Christ Himself (Luke 11:29-30) in the sky at His future, Second Coming, when "they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Matthew 24:30b). Before He lands on the earth (Zechariah 14:4, Acts 1:11-12), He could circle the globe in the sky so that everyone will be able to see His Second Coming with their own eyes, as Revelation 1:7 and Matthew 24:27,30b require. Or, most people could see His Second Coming via a live, breaking-news video feed to their smartphone, computer, or television. This is also the whole point of Matthew 24:23-31: If Jesus Christ's Second Coming is not obvious to everyone at the same time, then it is not really Jesus Christ. Another test is that the Church's physical resurrection, and then its gathering together (rapture) to hold a meeting in the sky with the returned Jesus, have to occur at the Second Coming of the real Jesus Christ (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17; 2 Thessalonians 2:1, Matthew 24:30-31; 1 Corinthians 15:21-23,51-53, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6).

Yekcidmij said in post #134:

[Re: Matthew 24:1-2]

I think you just have to consider the style of speaking and consider that it's an idiomatic expression or hyperbolic speaking and he's talking about the temple, not retaining walls.

Note that the Wailing Wall was an integral part of the second temple complex, and nothing requires hyperbole in Matthew 24:1-2.

Nige55 · Nov 14, 2018

Dave L said:
When does the times of the gentiles end? Since Christ abolished circumcision, aren't all physical Jews gentiles by default? Will the broken off be reunited to Israel only by faith in Christ? Doesn't this make Christ and believers Israel?

When does it end ? No idea, God decides that.
It's simpler than you're making out - Christ abolishing circumcision is only relevant to Jews that believe in him (hence there is no Jew or Gentile IN Christ). Of course the Jews don't follow this belief (as they've been temporarily hardened in part), meaning Jews and Gentiles today still adhere to the same definition as in biblical times (Jew, and non Jew). So no, physical Jews are not Gentiles at all.
That verse in Romans makes it abundantly clear that we're dealing with 2 separate groups. If the church is Israel, how can it be grafted back into what it already is ?

Dave L · Nov 14, 2018

Nige55 said:
When does it end ? No idea, God decides that.
It's simpler than you're making out - Christ abolishing circumcision is only relevant to Jews that believe in him (hence there is no Jew or Gentile IN Christ). Of course the Jews don't follow this belief (as they've been temporarily hardened in part), meaning Jews and Gentiles today still adhere to the same definition as in biblical times (Jew, and non Jew). So no, physical Jews are not Gentiles at all.
That verse in Romans makes it abundantly clear that we're dealing with 2 separate groups. If the church is Israel, how can it be grafted back into what it already is ?

Jesus tells us to preach to all nations [gentiles] and that he is with us in doing so until the end = the times of the gentiles remain until the end of the world.

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” (Matthew 24:14) (KJV 1900)

“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”” (Matthew 28:19–20) (NET)

The good news is, today's Jews are gentiles since Jesus abolished circumcision on the cross. Circumcision made one a physical Jew or member of Israel.

Dave L · Nov 14, 2018

Bible2+ said:
Regarding Romans 11:23-29, note that there the Gentiles are genetic Gentiles, the people addressed throughout Romans 11:13-31, who are not genetic Jews like the apostle Paul (Romans 11:1,14). Both individual, genetic Jewish Christians (natural branches) and individual genetic Gentile Christians (engrafted wild branches) are branches in the good olive tree of Israel (Romans 11:17,24). For when Gentiles become Christians, they "come in" (Romans 11:25) to be part of Israel (Romans 11:17,24, Ephesians 2:12,19, Galatians 3:29). The fruit of each individual branch would be the good works of each individual (Colossians 1:10). It is the genetic Jews who are "blind in part", meaning that some (in the sense of not all) of them are spiritually blind, while others are not (Romans 11:7-10). For "blindness in part is happened to Israel" (Romans 11:25), in its genetic sense (Romans 11:1,14), that is, genetic Jews (Acts 22:3). Also, in Romans 11:25-26, "Israel" includes elect, genetic Jews who are not yet Christians (Romans 11:28), but who will become Christians eventually (Romans 11:26).

When the apostle Paul says: "until the fulness (pleroma: G4138) of the Gentiles be come in" (Romans 11:25), he means until a full number of Gentile individuals have become Christians, which will not happen until near the end of the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, right before Jesus Christ's Second Coming (Romans 11:26), immediately after the Tribulation (Matthew 24:29-30); just as Luke 21:24 shows that "the times of the Gentiles" will not be "fulfilled (pleroo: G4137)" until the completion of the treading down of Jerusalem during the future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") (Revelation 11:2b, Revelation 13:5-18), during the second half of the future Tribulation.

Immediately after the future Tribulation, when the whole world will see the amazing return of Jesus Christ Himself from heaven (Matthew 24:29-30, Revelation 1:7), all of the still-living, unsaved, elect Jews will be ashamed, and weep, and become Christians, when they see Jesus, and realize that He truly is their salvation (Zechariah 12:10-14, Romans 11:26-29). And so they will all become part of the Church at that time, just as when Jews become Christians now they become part of the Church. For there are no Christians outside of the Church (Ephesians 4:4-6).

And the Jews who will become Christians at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming will all become part of the Church by receiving some measure of God's Holy Spirit, who is "the spirit of grace and of supplications" in Zechariah 12:10 (Hebrews 10:29c, Romans 8:26), just as Jewish Christians today become part of the Church by receiving some measure of the Holy Spirit. For it is by receiving some measure of the Holy Spirit that both Jewish and Gentile Christians become part of the Church (1 Corinthians 12:13).

Also, if the Jews who will become Christians at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming had been religious Jews, they will not continue to mistakenly try to keep the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law, because they will then be believers in the truth that on Jesus Christ's Cross, for both Jews and Gentiles (John 11:51-52) of all times, the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law was completely and forever abolished (Ephesians 2:15-16, Colossians 2:14-17; 2 Corinthians 3:6-18), disannulled (Hebrews 7:18), rendered obsolete (Hebrews 8:13, Galatians 3:2-25, Galatians 4:21 to 5:8), taken away and replaced (Hebrews 10:9) by the better hope (Hebrews 7:19), the better covenant (Hebrews 7:22, Hebrews 8:6-12), the second covenant (Hebrews 8:7, Hebrews 10:9), of Jesus' New Covenant law (Galatians 6:2, John 1:17, Matthew 26:28, Hebrews 12:24, Hebrews 9:15), so that the law was changed (Hebrews 7:12).

Also, the fullness of the Gentiles coming in during the future Tribulation does not mean that no Gentiles will be added to the Church during the subsequent Millennium, because they will be (Isaiah 66:19-20). For "fullness" does not have to mean "no more after that". For example, even after a cup has been filled with wine, more wine can be added to it, so that the "cup runneth over" (Psalms 23:5b). Also, it does not matter that the new Christians during the Millennium will be added to the Church/bride (of Ephesians 4:4-6, Ephesians 5:30-32) after the marriage of the Church to Jesus Christ occurred at His Second Coming (Revelation 19:7). For as many husbands have discovered, a bride can increase in size sometime after her wedding.

Your thesis assumes too much. If you begin with Jesus and his description of the kingdom being spiritual, it automatically rules out most of your theme. And if you redefine OT terms according to the NT, the rest blows away in the wind. Start at the beginning, with Jesus, and the rest takes care of itself.

Nige55 · Nov 14, 2018

Dave L said:
Jesus tells us to preach to all nations [gentiles] and that he is with us in doing so until the end = the times of the gentiles remain until the end of the world.

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” (Matthew 24:14) (KJV 1900)

“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”” (Matthew 28:19–20) (NET)

The good news is, today's Jews are gentiles since Jesus abolished circumcision on the cross. Circumcision made one a physical Jew or member of Israel.

In reference to your first statement - The gospel was of course given to the Jews first, so they were the first to preach to the nations = Jews to gentiles.
Regarding the timing - yes that could well indeed be the timing we will see, the fullness of the gentiles may well be at the end of the age.
Your final statement - I'll need to repeat this - there is no Jew or Gentile IN CHRIST, your statement would only be valid if ALL Jews believed that Yeshua is the Messiah. Even then, they would simply be Messianic Jews, as many believing Jews today identify themselves as.
Oh, and just remember to be aware of wording - "Circumcision made one a physical Jew or member of Israel" - There are a good many people who are circumcised, but who are certainly not Jewish or a member of Israel.

Dave L · Nov 14, 2018

Nige55 said:
In reference to your first statement - The gospel was of course given to the Jews first, so they were the first to preach to the nations = Jews to gentiles.
Regarding the timing - yes that could well indeed be the timing we will see, the fullness of the gentiles may well be at the end of the age.
Your final statement - I'll need to repeat this - there is no Jew or Gentile IN CHRIST, your statement would only be valid if ALL Jews believed that Yeshua is the Messiah. Even then, they would simply be Messianic Jews, as many believing Jews today identify themselves as.
Oh, and just remember to be aware of wording - "Circumcision made one a physical Jew or member of Israel" - There are a good many people who are circumcised, but who are certainly not Jewish or a member of Israel.

Once we understand the biblical role of circumcision, we can easily see that since Christ abolished it on the cross, the only biblical Israel is Jesus and believers in him.

Nige55 · Nov 14, 2018

Dave L said:
Once we understand the biblical role of circumcision, we can easily see that since Christ abolished it on the cross, the only biblical Israel is Jesus and believers in him.

He abolished it, but only believers in him believe that !! :doh:

A Jew will only understand this when they come to believe in him, and yet as I've mentioned in my last post, they still call themselves Messianic Jews.

The hardening of them UNTIL the time of the gentiles is complete reveals a change. That's when all of Israel will be saved. Once again, how can Israel be saved if it is already saved ?

Dave L · Nov 14, 2018

Nige55 said:
He abolished it, but only believers in him believe that !!
A Jew will only understand this when they come to believe in him, and yet as I've mentioned in my last post, they still call themselves Messianic Jews.

The hardening of them UNTIL the time of the gentiles is complete reveals a change. That's when all of Israel will be saved. Once again, how can Israel be saved if it is already saved ?

If Jesus abolished circumcision it no longer makes one a physical Jew or physical member of Israel. They've been cut off. Only to be reunited with biblical Israel through accepting Jesus as the Messiah.

Nige55 · Nov 14, 2018

Dave L said:
If Jesus abolished circumcision it no longer makes one a physical Jew or physical member of Israel. They've been cut off. Only to be reunited with biblical Israel through accepting Jesus as the Messiah.

That law, as with many of other Jewish Torah laws are no longer the route that God requires for them to come to him. We can agree that the only way for them to come to God is through Jesus, however that does not mean that we are now the Jews, or Israel. In Gods plan (as we read), Israel and the Jews have a key role to play in end times and prophecy, therefore God needs the Jews in their role until the plan has unfolded (that's why they are temporarily hardened). That would not be the case if we then replaced them.

Dave L · Nov 14, 2018

Nige55 said:
That law, as with many of other Jewish Torah laws are no longer the route that God requires for them to come to him. We can agree that the only way for them to come to God is through Jesus, however that does not mean that we are now the Jews, or Israel. In Gods plan (as we read), Israel and the Jews have a key role to play in end times and prophecy, therefore God needs the Jews in their role until the plan has unfolded (that's why they are temporarily hardened). That would not be the case if we then replaced them.

If any cannot be reunited with Israel unless they accept Christ (Romans 11), how are they biblical Israel and not gentiles today?

Nige55 · Nov 14, 2018

Dave L said:
If any cannot be reunited with Israel unless they accept Christ (Romans 11), how are they biblical Israel and not gentiles today?

Because all the way through Kings, when they turned from God, rejected him, worshipped false idols, - they were still biblical Israel. Turning from God did not stop them Being Jews, and the Israel & Jews of today will return to him again as is laid out in scripture.

Dave L · Nov 14, 2018

Nige55 said:
Because all the way through Kings, when they turned from God, rejected him, worshipped false idols, - they were still biblical Israel. Turning from God did not stop them Being Jews, and the Israel & Jews of today will return to him again as is laid out in scripture.

They were still circumcised.

Nige55 · Nov 14, 2018

Dave L said:
They were still circumcised.

I think you're tying to erase the Jew - Gentile identities too soon, only when the Jews and Israel come to believe in Yeshua will the time of the gentiles (non Jews, wouldn't make that distinction if it were not relevant) come to fulfilment. As long as Jews still don't believe that he is their Messiah, there will be Jews and Gentiles. You seem to be very hung up on the circumcision element.

Dave L · Nov 14, 2018

Nige55 said:
I think you're tying to erase the Jew - Gentile identities too soon, only when the Jews and Israel come to believe in Yeshua will the time of the gentiles (non Jews, wouldn't make that distinction if it were not relevant) come to fulfilment. As long as Jews still don't believe that he is their Messiah, there will be Jews and Gentiles. You seem to be very hung up on the circumcision element.

Circumcision made one Abraham's physical seed at a time when Ishmael was his only blood relative. But his household of foreigners became his covenant seed through circumcision. God removed the unbelievers by abolishing circumcision, leaving only the true seed of believers in tact. We are grafted into these by faith in Christ.

DennisTate · Nov 14, 2018

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Bible2+ · Nov 15, 2018

Dave L said in post #143:

The good news is, today's Jews are gentiles since Jesus abolished circumcision on the cross.

No, they are still genetic Jews, to whom the Gospel must be preached to first (Romans 1:16). See the "Romans 1:16" part of post #127 above.

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Dave L said in post #144:

If you begin with Jesus and his description of the kingdom being spiritual, it automatically rules out most of your theme.

Note that Jesus showed that the Kingdom will become also physical in our future (e.g. Luke 22:30). See the "Kingdom" part of post #99 above.

Dave L said in post #144:

Start at the beginning, with Jesus, and the rest takes care of itself.

Indeed, for He Himself is a Jew (John 4:9,22, Luke 2:21), and was sent first only to the Jews (Matthew 10:5-7).

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Dave L said in post #146:

Once we understand the biblical role of circumcision, we can easily see that since Christ abolished it on the cross, the only biblical Israel is Jesus and believers in him.

No, for there is still genetic Israel (Romans 11:1).

Romans 11:28 means that some non-Christians are the genetic descendants of Abraham (John 8:37, Acts 13:26, Romans 11:1, Acts 7:2, Acts 3:25). And some of these non-Christians are elect, and are beloved in part because of their genetic descent (Romans 11:28-29).

All genetic Jews are part of genetic Israel (Romans 9:3-5). But being part of the true, spiritual Israel, the true, spiritual seed of Abraham, the promised seed, is not based on genetics (Romans 9:6-24), but on God's election (Romans 9:11), which includes both some Jews and some Gentiles (Romans 9:24).

All Jewish and Gentile Christians are part of the true Israel (Ephesians 2:12,19, Romans 11:17,24, Revelation 21:9,12; 1 Peter 2:9-10, John 10:16), the seed of Abraham (Galatians 3:28-29, Romans 4:16-17), the promised seed, just as Isaac was (Galatians 4:28). And so all Jewish and Gentile Christians are heirs of all of the promises made by God to Israel (Ephesians 3:6, Ephesians 2:12,19, Galatians 3:29, Romans 15:27).

In Romans 9:8, by "the children of the flesh", the apostle Paul means genetic Jews, who are the genetic children of Abraham (Romans 11:1, Acts 13:26, John 8:37). And by "the children of God"/"the children of the promise", Paul means the elect, both some Jews and some Gentiles (Romans 9:24, Galatians 4:28). Romans 9:6-8 means that not all Jews are elect (John 8:37-47, John 10:26), and that some Gentiles are elect (Romans 9:24, John 10:16, John 11:52). Only a remnant of genetic Israel is elect (Romans 9:27), just as only a remnant of humanity in general is elect (chosen) (Matthew 22:14, Matthew 7:14).

Just as all Christians, whether Jews or Gentiles, are individual branches in the vine which is Jesus Christ (John 15:5), the only way to salvation (John 14:6, Acts 4:12), so all Christians, whether Jews or Gentiles, are individual branches in the good olive tree of Israel, the Jews' own tree (Romans 11:17,24, Jeremiah 11:16-17). For all Jewish Christians remain part of Israel (Romans 11:1) as the natural branches in the tree of Israel (Romans 11:24). And all Gentile Christians have been grafted as branches from a wild olive tree into the tree of Israel (Romans 11:17,24, Ephesians 2:12,19, Galatians 3:29), so that they can partake of the salvation of the New Covenant (Matthew 26:28; 1 Corinthians 11:25; 2 Corinthians 3:6, Hebrews 9:15), which God has made only with Israel (Jeremiah 31:31-34, John 4:22b). This does not mean that a wild branch becomes a natural branch, that a Gentile Christian becomes a genetic Jew, but means that Gentile Christians, even while remaining branches from a wild olive tree, even while remaining genetic Gentiles, are still grafted in to become part of the good olive tree of Israel (Romans 11:17,24).

Bible2+ · Nov 15, 2018

Nige55 said in post #147:

The hardening of them UNTIL the time of the gentiles is complete reveals a change. That's when all of Israel will be saved.

Amen.

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob . . .

Regarding "And so all Israel shall be saved", the original Greek word (houto: G3779) translated as "so" can be used in the sense of "then" (Acts 20:11b). For it can refer to "what precedes or follows" (Strong's Greek Dictionary). That is, the salvation of all of the surviving, elect genetic Jews in Romans 11:26 will follow the fullness of the Gentiles being come in, in Romans 11:25c, which will happen near the end of the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24.

Regarding "There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer", this refers to Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming, immediately after the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6), when all of the still-living, non-Christian, elect genetic Jews (Romans 11:28-29) will become Christians, when they see the physically returned Jesus in person and believe in Him (Zechariah 12:10-14, Zechariah 13:1,6, Isaiah 4:3-4, Romans 11:26).

jgr · Nov 15, 2018

Bible2+ said:
Amen.

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob . . .

Regarding "And so all Israel shall be saved", the original Greek word (houto: G3779) translated as "so" can be used in the sense of "then" (Acts 20:11b). For it can refer to "what precedes or follows" (Strong's Greek Dictionary). That is, the salvation of all of the surviving, elect genetic Jews in Romans 11:26 will follow the fullness of the Gentiles being come in, in Romans 11:25c, which will happen near the end of the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24.

Regarding "There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer", this refers to Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming, immediately after the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6), when all of the still-living, non-Christian, elect genetic Jews (Romans 11:28-29) will become Christians, when they see the physically returned Jesus in person and believe in Him (Zechariah 12:10-14, Zechariah 13:1,6, Isaiah 4:3-4, Romans 11:26).

Here is genetic Israel today.
Its DNA is in every person on the planet. Most of the sources below are from the Jewish community itself.
How will God distinguish?
As He always has.
By faith and obedience alone.
Trust and obey.
No other way.

Abraham lineage
DNA Tests Could Fulfill God’s Promise to Abraham by Revealing Millions of Jews. But How Jewish is Jewish Enough?
Israel in all of Us? Research finds 'Jewish genes' in unusual places
Arabs of Jewish Descent in Israel
Tracing the lost tribes to Jewish communities in Africa
Nigeria's Igbo Jews: 'Lost tribe' of Israel? - CNN
http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/...-africa-has-jewish-roots-genetic-tests-reveal
https://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/...her-claims-proof-of-tribe-of-Ephraim-in-India
https://www.jta.org/2013/05/23/life...bush-bani-israel-tribe-claims-jewish-heritage

Example of the mathematical confirmation of ancestral genetic ubiquity

NeedyFollower · Nov 15, 2018

Bible2+ said:
And you will succeed!

For Revelation 11:1-2, Matthew 24:15, Daniel 11:31,36, and 2 Thessalonians 2:4 require that there will be a third Jewish temple in the earthly Jerusalem during the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24. This third temple will coexist with the Church like the second temple did (Luke 24:53, Acts 2:46, Acts 22:17) and like the temple building in heaven does (Revelation 11:19). The third temple could be built on Jerusalem's Temple Mount by the ultra-Orthodox Jews after they (or great earthquakes) clear the site by destroying the Muslim Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque. Shortly after they build the temple, the future Antichrist could attack and defeat them, and a false Messiah leading them (Daniel 11:22).

Then the Antichrist could "cut" a peace treaty with them and their false "Messiah" (Daniel 9:26a, Daniel 11:23a), permitting them to keep the temple and to continue to (mistakenly) perform the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices in front of it for at least seven years (Daniel 9:27a), so long as they give up the outer court of the temple (Revelation 11:2a) to the Muslims so that the Muslims can rebuild the Al Aqsa Mosque on the southern end of the Temple Mount and resume worship there. The ultra-Orthodox Jews could grudgingly agree to this, if the only other option is for them to lose the temple entirely. They could then build a high wall between the temple and the mosque to keep the temple from being "defiled".

But then, only some 3.5 years after making the peace treaty, the Antichrist will break the treaty, attack the temple, stop the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices, place the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the Antichrist) in the holy place (the inner sanctum) of the temple (Daniel 9:27b, Daniel 11:31, Matthew 24:15), and then sit himself (at least one time) in the temple and proclaim himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). Thus could begin the Antichrist's literal, 3.5-year Luciferian (Satanic) worldwide reign of terror (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9; 2 Thessalonians 2:9).

At the very end of the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, the Antichrist (Daniel 11:45) and the world's armies will pillage Jerusalem, right before Jesus Christ's Second Coming (Zechariah 14:2-21). And at the Second Coming, there will be tremendous earth changes in the vicinity of Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:4-5). These events could result in all of Jerusalem's structures, including the third temple and the Wailing Wall (also called the Western Wall), being broken down so that not one stone will be left upon another (Luke 19:44, Matthew 24:2). Then the returned Jesus (Zechariah 14:4, Acts 1:11-12) will rebuild Jerusalem and make it the capital of the world (Zechariah 14:8-19, Micah 4:1-4). He will also build a fourth temple there (Zechariah 14:20-21, Zechariah 6:12-13). It will serve a similar function for the Church during the future Millennium (of Revelation 20:4-6) as the second temple served for the Church in the first century AD (Luke 24:53, Acts 2:46, Acts 22:17) and as the temple building in heaven (Revelation 11:19) serves for those in heaven (Revelation 7:15).

If the third temple has already been built ( I dwell in a temple not made by hands ) though the builders rejected the corner stone , then maybe a false messiah ...a false Jesus is already leading them .

NeedyFollower · Nov 15, 2018

The Gryphon said:
I personally believe the Anti-Christ/Islamic Messiah is alive as we speak. The "end time" prophecies are coming true at an increasing pace for those that care to take note of such things. I'm not sure if the Lord will return before I die as I turn 69 next month and am not in the best of health but it matters little if I live to hear His Trumpet call from earth or take part in the first Resurrection. I look forward to seeing my Lord fulfill His word upon His Second Coming!

There were and are many anti-christ . THE anti-christ may not even be an individual any more than Jacob ( Israel ) is an individual . Maybe there is an anti-body of Christ . The man of sin sitting in the temple as God may be nothing more than humanism which is present in and out of the churches ..Man as God .

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