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I have had this on my mind for a rather long time and I am looking for the opinions of other Christians.
I don't know the exact verses like other people, but the Bible says let no corrucpt talk come from your mouth, not to slander, not to curse someone..

Now, the next is in my opinion and I have had a lot of people look at me funny or just tell me I am wrong, but not proofing I am wrong.
I can slander, I can talk corrupt and I can curse someone, without once using a curse/swear word.
The Bible also now where to my knowledge tells us what words are bad to use.
So, my question is. Is it really a sin to swear or is it just a case of people find it wrong to swear. Who decided that we should say poo, instead of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. It was humans. Not God.
If I say "Damn You", is that not the same as saying "F... You".
Don,t those words only become sin once I used it to curse someone or slander them?
Please give me your honest opinion without crusifing me.
 

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I have had this on my mind for a rather long time and I am looking for the opinions of other Christians.
I don't know the exact verses like other people, but the Bible says let no corrucpt talk come from your mouth, not to slander, not to curse someone..

Now, the next is in my opinion and I have had a lot of people look at me funny or just tell me I am wrong, but not proofing I am wrong.
I can slander, I can talk corrupt and I can curse someone, without once using a curse/swear word.
The Bible also now where to my knowledge tells us what words are bad to use.
So, my question is. Is it really a sin to swear or is it just a case of people find it wrong to swear. Who decided that we should say poo, instead of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. It was humans. Not God.
If I say "Damn You", is that not the same as saying "F... You".
Don,t those words only become sin once I used it to curse someone or slander them?
Please give me your honest opinion without crusifing me.
This is a really cool post. Thank you for giving us an opportunity to think about new things.

Well, I know that whatever comes out of our mouths are syllables to God. It’s just sound, really no different than if a lizard were to hear or perceive our sound. What makes a word powerful is what is behind it. When a child swears, and they haven’t a clue as to what they’ve just said, is it the same? No, at that point the “word” that came out of the child’s mouth are syllables, or sound with pitch and perhaps meter. So it isn’t the tonal quality, it isn’t the pitch, it isn’t the length, it is what is in our hearts. Do we have a clear conscience.

We really are commanded to watch our mouths, so from the commandment aspect alone, we need to obey.

Another reason to watch our mouths is that we want to avoid millstones. They’re not fun, so Jesus makes it sound. Jesus said that to the one that leads any of His Chosen, any of His Elect astray by leading them into habitual sin, a millstone wrapped around our necks and thrown overboard would be better than what’s in store for us. Christ makes His point that we do have an impact on each other and that we’re clearly not to do so once having been instructed to do so. Consider yourself instructed. Haha

To conclude, a cool short study on Stumbling Blocks and Pitfalls brings a new light to how we hurt one another and what’s in store for us. I’m also submitting that when we cause another to sin, we hold responsibility for that sin. That’s how I live my life and I’m sure that God’s cool with it. J

Thanks again! Great job!
 
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I have had this on my mind for a rather long time and I am looking for the opinions of other Christians.
I don't know the exact verses like other people, but the Bible says let no corrucpt talk come from your mouth, not to slander, not to curse someone..

Now, the next is in my opinion and I have had a lot of people look at me funny or just tell me I am wrong, but not proofing I am wrong.
I can slander, I can talk corrupt and I can curse someone, without once using a curse/swear word.
The Bible also now where to my knowledge tells us what words are bad to use.
So, my question is. Is it really a sin to swear or is it just a case of people find it wrong to swear. Who decided that we should say poo, instead of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. It was humans. Not God.
If I say "Damn You", is that not the same as saying "F... You".
Don,t those words only become sin once I used it to curse someone or slander them?
Please give me your honest opinion without crusifing me.

What you are looking for is found in Colossians 3:8:

But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.

We could go on and on about the psychology of profanity, but suffice to say it doesn't come from a good part of the mind. The words used in biblical times would be different from the words we use today, but they communicate the same emotions, etc.
 
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Sounds fantastic. I'd love to hear your thoughts if you'd be willing to give them. :)

This should help:

In regard to a theory of profanity, it is an expression of emotion, especially of anger. However, the James-Lange and the Sutherland theories show that it is to be understood by the genetic method. By a process of selection, profanity chooses those forms of phonation best adapted to shock the opponent. Originally used in combat, at present it is used when well-being of the individual is threatened. It does not generate emotion but allays it. Profanity provides catharsis, helping one cope during intolerable periods of inner conflict, repression and readjustment. It is considered immoral due to the emphasis on inhibition and repression, and the religious connection between the sacred and the profane.

http://psycnet.apa.org/record/1926-02955-001
 
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This should help:

In regard to a theory of profanity, it is an expression of emotion, especially of anger. However, the James-Lange and the Sutherland theories show that it is to be understood by the genetic method. By a process of selection, profanity chooses those forms of phonation best adapted to shock the opponent. Originally used in combat, at present it is used when well-being of the individual is threatened. It does not generate emotion but allays it. Profanity provides catharsis, helping one cope during intolerable periods of inner conflict, repression and readjustment. It is considered immoral due to the emphasis on inhibition and repression, and the religious connection between the sacred and the profane.

http://psycnet.apa.org/record/1926-02955-001


To expand on that: there is experimental evidence that profanity may have an analgesic effect. When you smash your thumb with a hammer, letting fly with a few 4 letter words of Anglo-Saxon origin can actually provide pain relief. And such language may also increase strength and improve athletic performance.

Although, these effects are temporary. And the increase in pain tolerance lessens if the swearing is often repeated.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...-boost-strength-and-reduce-the-sensation-pain
 
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To expand on that: there is experimental evidence that profanity may have an analgesic effect. When you smash your thumb with a hammer, letting fly with a few 4 letter words of Anglo-Saxon origin can actually provide pain relief. And such language may also increase strength and improve athletic performance.

Although, these effects are temporary. And the increase in pain tolerance lessens if the swearing is often repeated.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...-boost-strength-and-reduce-the-sensation-pain
I always thought of Heaven as being a place where there are no hammers. Because, we all know what happens when one hits one's thumb with a hammer.:)
 
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I always thought of Heaven as being a place where there are no hammers. Because, we all know what happens when one hits one's thumb with a hammer.:)

According to the guy I met in cardiology yesterday... after the 2nd time throw it in the farm dam. Its a stupid hammer and you have lots more. We both had angiograms.
 
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I always thought of Heaven as being a place where there are no hammers. Because, we all know what happens when one hits one's thumb with a hammer.:)
But MC Hammer is a believer. He will be in heaven!

 
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I always thought of Heaven as being a place where there are no hammers. Because, we all know what happens when one hits one's thumb with a hammer.:)
Which is why it is always better to just screw it.
 
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What you are looking for is found in Colossians 3:8:

But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.

We could go on and on about the psychology of profanity, but suffice to say it doesn't come from a good part of the mind. The words used in biblical times would be different from the words we use today, but they communicate the same emotions, etc.
Col. 3:8 is a great verse. The question is, how is "filthy language" determined. My guess is that society decides what's filthy or not. It wasn't all that long ago when the word "suck", used in a certain context, was considered filthy (at least by me). Same with some other words. Like many other things I believe our language is becoming more coarse over time resulting in fewer "filthy" words.
 
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Col. 3:8 is a great verse. The question is, how is "filthy language" determined. My guess is that society decides what's filthy or not. It wasn't all that long ago when the word "suck", used in a certain context, was considered filthy (at least by me). Same with some other words. Like many other things I believe our language is becoming more coarse over time resulting in fewer "filthy" words.

I would say that it is the way the words are used also.

"You suck" is really not that nice at all.
"Don't suck that ball with the vacuum" would not be considered bad or filthy.

Also, implicated meanings, I would assume are filthy too, like...
"I'm turned up" implies bad behavior and filthy conduct
"I turned on the light" is not bad or filthy at all.
 
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I have had this on my mind for a rather long time and I am looking for the opinions of other Christians.
I don't know the exact verses like other people, but the Bible says let no corrucpt talk come from your mouth, not to slander, not to curse someone..

Now, the next is in my opinion and I have had a lot of people look at me funny or just tell me I am wrong, but not proofing I am wrong.
I can slander, I can talk corrupt and I can curse someone, without once using a curse/swear word.
The Bible also now where to my knowledge tells us what words are bad to use.
So, my question is. Is it really a sin to swear or is it just a case of people find it wrong to swear. Who decided that we should say poo, instead of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. It was humans. Not God.
If I say "Damn You", is that not the same as saying "F... You".
Don,t those words only become sin once I used it to curse someone or slander them?
Please give me your honest opinion without crusifing me.
I think you are absolutely correct. (As demonstrated in the way most forum administrations have chosen to use a program that removes certain words …. as it did in your post.), yet upholds many insulting and demeaning posts, as long as they carefully and cleverly remain within the bounds of "our rules" when they are crafted.
 
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I have had this on my mind for a rather long time and I am looking for the opinions of other Christians.
I don't know the exact verses like other people, but the Bible says let no corrucpt talk come from your mouth, not to slander, not to curse someone..

Now, the next is in my opinion and I have had a lot of people look at me funny or just tell me I am wrong, but not proofing I am wrong.
I can slander, I can talk corrupt and I can curse someone, without once using a curse/swear word.
The Bible also now where to my knowledge tells us what words are bad to use.
So, my question is. Is it really a sin to swear or is it just a case of people find it wrong to swear. Who decided that we should say poo, instead of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. It was humans. Not God.
If I say "Damn You", is that not the same as saying "F... You".
Don,t those words only become sin once I used it to curse someone or slander them?
Please give me your honest opinion without crusifing me.

You are correct in sentiment but the wording makes things confusing, though that is not entirely your fault. We, as a society, have been using the word swear to mean any use of a particular word that is seen as innately offensive. The biblical meaning of swear has nothing to do with that at all. As far as I can tell, the biblical swear is the same as taking an oath. Curse is similar. To curse today means to use an innately offensive word. In the bible it seems to mean to use words as means to bring harm upon another. Much like the proverbial witch cursing someone with a case of the hives. There may be words that the Jews, or the Hebrews, or the Israelites considered innately offensive but I do not know what they would be if there were such words ( though it was not permitted to speak the name of God that was not a matter of the name of God being innately offensive but of it being too sacred to pass profane lips) and I do not think that the proscription against cursing or swearing had anything to do with that sort of thing. The reason to avoid using the words that other people find innately offensive, even though that finding on their part is illogical and emotionally driven, is that it offends them and brings them discomfort. If we are to love our neighbor we ought not bring them discomfort unless that discomfort is in their best interest or, in the case of speech, in the interest of speaking the truth. Wanting to use a specific word for our own purposes when another word would express the truth about equally as well is not in the best interest of the one that is made uncomfortable by hearing it.
 
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I would say that it is the way the words are used also.

"You suck" is really not that nice at all.
"Don't suck that ball with the vacuum" would not be considered bad or filthy.

Also, implicated meanings, I would assume are filthy too, like...
"I'm turned up" implies bad behavior and filthy conduct
"I turned on the light" is not bad or filthy at all.
Reminds me of the "7 Words" routine by George Carlin.
 
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Reminds me of the "7 Words" routine by George Carlin.

Funnily enough he was able to say them( I believe it was actually 9 even though he said it was 7 as two were two word phrases and were not single words) on TV while saying he couldn't say them on TV. He must have meant Network TV and he could say many of them now over the airwaves but would have to refrain from quite a few that have become forbidden in the interim.
 
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In present day English most of our crude or "potty mouth" language dates to just following the Norman conquest of England in AD 1066. The Normans then attempted to suppress the Anglo-Saxon tongue in favour of French. A lot of perfectly normal A/S words for body parts and functions were preserved as subversive language to spite the Normans. Think here of "four letter words". They exist today serving much the same function in common speech. I make a very real distinction between crude language and cursing or swearing which carry strong religious connotations.
 
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Funnily enough he was able to say them( I believe it was actually 9 even though he said it was 7 as two were two word phrases and were not single words) on TV while saying he couldn't say them on TV.
That had to have been years later, after he first recorded the routine (1972??). And yes, a few years later he did revise the list to get rid of the compound words. I think it was in the revision he said some words had multiple meanings and could be used in some contexts and not others.
 
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I have had this on my mind for a rather long time and I am looking for the opinions of other Christians.
I don't know the exact verses like other people, but the Bible says let no corrucpt talk come from your mouth, not to slander, not to curse someone..

Now, the next is in my opinion and I have had a lot of people look at me funny or just tell me I am wrong, but not proofing I am wrong.
I can slander, I can talk corrupt and I can curse someone, without once using a curse/swear word.
The Bible also now where to my knowledge tells us what words are bad to use.
So, my question is. Is it really a sin to swear or is it just a case of people find it wrong to swear. Who decided that we should say poo, instead of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. It was humans. Not God.
If I say "Damn You", is that not the same as saying "F... You".
Don,t those words only become sin once I used it to curse someone or slander them?
Please give me your honest opinion without crusifing me.

Colossians 4:6

Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person.

Ephesians 4:29

Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

God Bless.
 
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