Creativity and Theft

jonrgrover · Nov 13, 2018

I can't seem to stop creating. I am a very creative person. Ideas pour out of me like water. And they are not part of my job. I spend a lot of time on my job creating instead of doing the work I've been assigned. I can't stand not creating. And I know this is theft. It is a sin. What do I do? The things I create could be valuable to millions of people. I have created major breakthroughs in my field. And yet I do not get to use most of these on my job (I do get to use a few). I just keep creating.

Should I look for a new job? If I do, I have Asperger's and I have done this many times and have never found a job that uses my creativity, so I keep stealing no matter what job I get. I could brain damage myself and stop creating, but that wouldn't do anyone any good. I think God created me to create and yet I don't see a way to do it without stealing. What do I do? What should I even pray for?

Kit Sigmon · Nov 13, 2018

Repent of stealing; when you are to be doing the job that you was hired to do.
You can use your break times for creative doings... after work you also have time you can be creative...not forgetting to be reading your Bible, praying and being a
godly witness etc.

jonrgrover · Nov 13, 2018

I have repented of stealing many times. I am unable to do the job I was hired to do because of my probable autism. Being on the job is part of what inspires me to create, so creating at home is sort of out of the picture. I get to see the needs people have when I am at work.

I think that out of my repentance, God has me on a path to discovering that part of my problem is that I am autistic and certain environments break my ability to do work. I think he also has me on a path to getting a firm diagnosis, and then use this diagnosis to find a job that supports a person with autism rather than breaking an autistic's ability to do work. My next appointment is with an autism diagnosis specialist on the 27th.

I repent and I repent and I repent, and then I get to work and the fear of action overwhelms me, and I can't bear to multi-task which both seem to be a symptoms of my condition, and then my creativity kicks in to replace the fear with joy and the joy of creation is sinful in this circumstance.

Dave-W · Nov 13, 2018

Does your current employer know of your creativity?

royal priest · Nov 13, 2018

Shark tank

Willie T · Nov 13, 2018

It's easy. On each payday, return the money you did not earn. Just lay it on their desk, and walk away.

Porpoise · Nov 13, 2018

Is it possible that being distracted while at work is not stealing? I can't imagine there are very many people who don't get distracted or let their minds wander.

eleos1954 · Nov 13, 2018

jonrgrover said:
I can't seem to stop creating. I am a very creative person. Ideas pour out of me like water. And they are not part of my job. I spend a lot of time on my job creating instead of doing the work I've been assigned. I can't stand not creating. And I know this is theft. It is a sin. What do I do? The things I create could be valuable to millions of people. I have created major breakthroughs in my field. And yet I do not get to use most of these on my job (I do get to use a few). I just keep creating.

Should I look for a new job? If I do, I have Asperger's and I have done this many times and have never found a job that uses my creativity, so I keep stealing no matter what job I get. I could brain damage myself and stop creating, but that wouldn't do anyone any good. I think God created me to create and yet I don't see a way to do it without stealing. What do I do? What should I even pray for?

Stealing isn't being creative and it certainly isn't of God. So your creations from stealing are worthless. Perhaps if you created without stealing you would have a better outcome. Repent and quit stealing. If you quit stealing that will do a whole lot of good.

Unofficial Reverand Alex · Nov 13, 2018

Hard to answer too much without knowing the details of your work; admit to God that you're just plain clueless, come to Him with the total dependence you're becoming aware of, and see what He does. You might be led somewhere great.

mama2one · Nov 13, 2018

my husband is similar
would be beneficial for his employer to use him more for what he can do but the company has changed

@jonrgrover
is there any flexibility with your employer for allowing you to be creative or moving to another position within company?

jonrgrover · Nov 13, 2018

Dave-W, I have learned through hard experience that telling employers of my creativity results in negative consequences. Generally I either get ignored, criticized, or shown the door. I have not told my current employer much. I have just gotten worn out trying. I am currently compiling a list of ideas I have had, have added to or considered while on this job. I'm up to about 80 mostly world changing ideas so far and I am nowhere near complete. It may be a very good thing to do to send him the list when it is complete. At least I will be being straight and upfront about it.

jonrgrover · Nov 13, 2018

@chirstine40, I'm sorry your husband is going through this. I know exactly what it is like. The company I work for is teeny tiny. It is unlikely that there is another position for me. However I do not know everything. Once I have my diagnosis and once I have compiled my list of ideas, I will have a much clearer idea of what to talk about with him. Thanks.

Kit Sigmon · Nov 13, 2018

jonrgrover said:
I have repented of stealing many times. I am unable to do the job I was hired to do because of my probable autism. Being on the job is part of what inspires me to create, so creating at home is sort of out of the picture. I get to see the needs people have when I am at work.

I think that out of my repentance, God has me on a path to discovering that part of my problem is that I am autistic and certain environments break my ability to do work. I think he also has me on a path to getting a firm diagnosis, and then use this diagnosis to find a job that supports a person with autism rather than breaking an autistic's ability to do work. My next appointment is with an autism diagnosis specialist on the 27th.

I repent and I repent and I repent, and then I get to work and the fear of action overwhelms me, and I can't bear to multi-task which both seem to be a symptoms of my condition, and then my creativity kicks in to replace the fear with joy and the joy of creation is sinful in this circumstance.

How you able to keep your job if you be unable to do it?

Just a thought...Have you given thoughts to designing things for those who
are disabled?
There lots of disabled people and many of them could use special equipment
and or help aids to assist them in doing their daily tasks.

bekkilyn · Nov 13, 2018

Sounds like you are in the wrong job and if it's a job that doesn't allow you to use your gifts most of the time, you will continue to have problems no matter how many times you repent. God gives us all a unique set of gifts and expects us to use them. Maybe a good career coach or counselor would be able to help you in matching your gifts with the right line of work where your creativity is actually valued and you therefore wouldn't spend much of your time being bored and tempted to steal. In many jobs, they will *say* they want their employees to be creative and use all the good-sounding corporate buzzwords, but it's just talk because they really just want worker bees who won't rock the status quo. Not the type of job you need to be in long-term.

jonrgrover · Nov 13, 2018

@eleos1954, I don't think my creations are worthless. What I stealingly-created on job A, I brought to job B; that from jobs A&B I brought to job C. That from jobs AB&C I brought to job D and so on. Right now when I am able to do good work for an employer, about half of it is from things I stealingly-created from dozens of previous employers. I get paid for things I stealingly-created on previous jobs that those employers did not use. Since I get paid for them, I suspect that my stealing-creations are worth something and not worthless. Or if they are worthless, then my employers don't really receive value for the value they receive.

That which I have stealingly-created is part of the way my mind works now. The way I view and work with technology is rooted in my stealingly-created theories, and the code which I write uses my stealingly-created techniques and breakthroughs. The only way to repent of my stealing-creations would be to brain damage myself, and never work as a programmer again. I don't know how to repent of the way my mind works without severe damage. Perhaps God could dissolve my mind's functionality and replace it with something else.

I would have to give up that which I have, that is valuable to people, and which I get paid for. I provide stealingly-created goods to the people I work for, and when they provide an environment I can function in with my autism, they are usually quite pleased. I'm not sure how I can repent of my mind's funcionality. I can however repent of continuing to stealingly-create on the job, and just rely on the programming techniques I have stealinly-created in the past. Or I can find a job where what I do is not stealing-creation, because creativity is something they actually want.

jonrgrover · Nov 13, 2018

@bekkilyn, Thanks. I'm pretty sure I am in the wrong job. I think I need a career coach. One who know how to place autistic people. I keep hoping to use my gifts for employers, and find that they do not want them. This is possibly because people with autism have a huge problem finding jobs. Only 20% are employed and many of those underemployed like me. God can make this happen if he wants to. I hope he wants to.

eleos1954 · Nov 13, 2018

jonrgrover said:
@eleos1954, I don't think my creations are worthless. What I stealingly-created on job A, I brought to job B; that from jobs A&B I brought to job C. That from jobs AB&C I brought to job D and so on. Right now when I am able to do good work for an employer, about half of it is from things I stealingly-created from dozens of previous employers. I get paid for things I stealingly-created on previous jobs that those employers did not use. Since I get paid for them, I suspect that my stealing-creations are worth something and not worthless. Or if they are worthless, then my employers don't really receive value for the value they receive.

That which I have stealingly-created is part of the way my mind works now. The way I view and work with technology is rooted in my stealingly-created theories, and the code which I write uses my stealingly-created techniques and breakthroughs. The only way to repent of my stealing-creations would be to brain damage myself, and never work as a programmer again. I don't know how to repent of the way my mind works without severe damage. Perhaps God could dissolve my mind's functionality and replace it with something else.

I would have to give up that which I have, that is valuable to people, and which I get paid for. I provide stealingly-created goods to the people I work for, and when they provide an environment I can function in with my autism, they are usually quite pleased. I'm not sure how I can repent of my mind's funcionality. I can however repent of continuing to stealingly-create on the job, and just rely on the programming techniques I have stealinly-created in the past. Or I can find a job where what I do is not stealing-creation, because creativity is something they actually want.

ok ... well then ... maybe what you are talking about really isn't "stealing". "Stealing" would be if 100% legally owned by a person(s)/entity. If you are using experience and knowledge gained (education on or off the job) techniques and/or improvements on same, then it's form is somehow changed or used in a different application and/or manner and that would not be stealing.

God Bless.

Hieronymus · Nov 13, 2018

Well, it depends on if you get our work done.
If there's spare time, be creative.
If there's not, don't.

Kit Sigmon · Nov 13, 2018

All be using ideas and things we have gathered from other sources...
there nothing new under the sun.
For example research ice cream...
The Food Timeline: history notes--ice cream

Halbhh · Nov 13, 2018

jonrgrover said:
I can't seem to stop creating. I am a very creative person. Ideas pour out of me like water. And they are not part of my job. I spend a lot of time on my job creating instead of doing the work I've been assigned. I can't stand not creating. And I know this is theft. It is a sin. What do I do? The things I create could be valuable to millions of people. I have created major breakthroughs in my field. And yet I do not get to use most of these on my job (I do get to use a few). I just keep creating.

Should I look for a new job? If I do, I have Asperger's and I have done this many times and have never found a job that uses my creativity, so I keep stealing no matter what job I get. I could brain damage myself and stop creating, but that wouldn't do anyone any good. I think God created me to create and yet I don't see a way to do it without stealing. What do I do? What should I even pray for?

No, imo it's not theft if you accomplish the tasks you are being paid to do to the normal extent your job pays you to do (to the level other able workers do), which usually is less than total time there for most jobs.

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