Michelle Obama will never forgive Trump for promoting birther CT

cow451 said:

If?????? What is so hard about admitting that no logical reasoning exists to support the birther argument???

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i did not check it out myself - if your info is true then yes - if your info is not then no -

i don't have the time or interest to find out if it is true or not - it doesn't matter to me one way or the other - it only seems to matter to mo right now -

does it matter to you if he was or wasn't born in the usa or if his mother was an american citizen? - he did his 8 years as pres so what difference does it make to anything?

Truthfrees said:

well one time ice went to do its job a ca mayor notified all the illegals a day ahead and 50% got away

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That has nothing to do with this discussion about eVerify. Enforcing eVerify has nothing to do with capturing illegal immigrants; it is instead about denying them work in the United States. And it has been proven that if they can't earn money, they aren't going to bother coming -- and will even leave, the United States.

Truthfrees said:

how are you going to enforce e verify in a state that refuses? - a wall is a federal issue so it will work much better than state run agencies can do

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You have heard of the FBI? ICE? Both would be pretty useless if they could not enforce federal law in any of the states.

Truthfrees said:

israel has a fence and it helps tremendously - pretty easy to cross where there is no fence - pretty hard to cross where there is one

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That is nice. Of course, it helps that it is only 440 miles long, compared to the 2,000 mile long border that Trump's wall would need to cover -- much of it in rather desolate areas.

OTOH, again, the fact remains that a wall would not stop the majority of illegals from entering the country. They come in through legal means, such as on a tourist visa; or they are smuggled in, such as in trucks crossing the border; or they go around where a wall would be, in boats on the ocean; etc. And that doesn't count the numerous tunnels that have been built going under the wall -- largely used to help smuggle drugs.

Truthfrees said:

does it really matter? - it looks like a fence - except it's 30' tall

like who cares if a 30' tall construction that looks like a fence is a fence or a wall?

how silly do we have to get about attacking trump? - my goodness

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It's not silly. A wall is not a fence. Trump didn't promise a fence, he promised a concrete and rebar wall. There is a big difference between the costs of a fence and a wall. What they built there serves the exact same purpose as a wall, but is multitudes less expensive in terms of installation and upkeep.

So, I care if it's a fence or a wall. It is not silly to me. It is important. How silly do you have to get about defending Trump?

Truthfrees said:

where do you get your ideas that trump caused it?

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From Trump, himself.

What did you think would happen if you call someone an "enemy of the people" day in, day out, over and over again and hold large rallies where you work up the people into a frenzy over this threat of an enemy among us?

Honestly, Truthfrees... What good do you think was going to come from that?

And you never answered my previous question.

GoldenBoy89 said:

Let's start with Madonna being the MAGA bomber's source of inspiration.

Where did that come from? Where are you getting this information?

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Truthfrees said:

i did not check it out myself - if your info is true then yes - if your info is not then no -

i don't have the time or interest to find out if it is true or not - it doesn't matter to me one way or the other - it only seems to matter to mo right now -

does it matter to you if he was or wasn't born in the usa or if his mother was an american citizen? - he did his 8 years as pres so what difference does it make to anything?

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Not worth your time? Obviously not a big deal for you, LOL.

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GoldenBoy89 said:

From Trump, himself.

What did you think would happen if you call someone an "enemy of the people" day in, day out, over and over again and hold large rallies where you work up the people into a frenzy over this threat of an enemy among us?

Honestly, Truthfrees... What good do you think was going to come from that?

And you never answered my previous question.

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thank you for your answer - so it should be easy to understand that the crazy guy got his answers from madona herself

cow451 said:

Not worth your time? Obviously not a big deal for you, LOL.

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lol - that's exactly what i said - it's never been any deal to me - it is to mo

LoAmmi said:

It's not silly. A wall is not a fence. Trump didn't promise a fence, he promised a concrete and rebar wall. There is a big difference between the costs of a fence and a wall. What they built there serves the exact same purpose as a wall, but is multitudes less expensive in terms of installation and upkeep.

So, I care if it's a fence or a wall. It is not silly to me. It is important. How silly do you have to get about defending Trump?

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well nice to know you approve of what he built - so we should all be happy about it then

Truthfrees said:

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thank you for your answer - so it should be easy to understand that the crazy guy got his answers from madona herself

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Nope.

SimplyMe said:

That has nothing to do with this discussion about eVerify. Enforcing eVerify has nothing to do with capturing illegal immigrants; it is instead about denying them work in the United States. And it has been proven that if they can't earn money, they aren't going to bother coming -- and will even leave, the United States.

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well it obviously doesn't work - because none of them have left - they are still here

GoldenBoy89 said:

Nope.

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yep

Truthfrees said:

yep

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I don't see the connection at all. Maybe you can draw it out for me?

Truthfrees said:

well nice to know you approve of what he built - so we should all be happy about it then

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It's fine. But it is not a "concrete and rebar" wall. But Trump supporters keep saying it is a wall. I'm sorry, but it makes them sound delusional, especially after I spent the election cycle arguing for a fence and not a wall but being told, on here constantly, that a wall is necessary and a fence won't do.

Lady Bug said:

do we know this for an absolute fact?

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Hop over to Fox News comment section and you will see it repeated over and over.

I bet Michelle would forgive if Trump if he truly apologized.

But that's never gonna happen.

LoAmmi said:

Please show me where he said that different lands would need different solutions. I would like to see that.

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Trump: 'It's not a fence. It's a wall.' - CNNPolitics

Oh, wait. That's Trump saying exactly the opposite.

You know who really don't want a physical barrier along Southern border? Texans who live along the Rio Grande. Their communities and farms rely upon unfettered access to the Rio Grande as a water source. You can't build a wall in the middle of the river. You can't build a wall on the south side of the river, as that would be an illegal invasion of Mexico. If you're going to build a wall, the only place to build it would be on our side of the border, cutting Americans off from a vital resource.

But what's the suffering of a few hundred thousand American citizens when measured against the need to protect our whole nation from the made up threat of ISIS terrorists slipping across the border in a giant caravan?

LiberalChristian1980 said:

You know who really don't want a physical barrier along Southern border? Texans who live along the Rio Grande. Their communities and farms rely upon unfettered access to the Rio Grande as a water source. You can't build a wall in the middle of the river. You can't build a wall on the south side of the river, as that would be an illegal invasion of Mexico. If you're going to build a wall, the only place to build it would be on our side of the border, cutting Americans off from a vital resource.

But what's the suffering of a few hundred thousand American citizens when measured against the need to protect our whole nation from the made up threat of ISIS terrorists slipping across the border in a giant caravan?

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The Tohono O’odham Nation doesn't want the border wall on their tribal land either.

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