How 'Gardening While Black' Almost Landed This Detroit Man in Jail

timewerx said:

I think it can be blamed on the mass media and entertainment.

They can indirectly set opinions in to people's minds and they have a tendency to be racially disproportionate in how they portray certain activities.

That is despite their claims of maintaining political correctness. You look at internet for example. Most ads for leisure and travel show whites, most ads for gardening show whites, most ads for humanitarian issues show blacks, most ads for science, research, and technology show whites, most ads for basketball and sometimes other sports show blacks, look for articles about fashion and beauty most will show whites.

That has to change and should have been done a long time ago already.

Click to expand...

Human sovereign agents need to take responsibility for themselves, and act like sovereign humans. If you want to murder someone, don't use a stereotype, demagoguery and circumstances to build a veil of handicap. If you dislike certain persons, don't let political correctness stop you from expressing yourself under the 1st Amendment: be yourself. Stop letting other adults tell you (in general) how to behave and live! Stop letting your adults minds be influenced by empty distractions and sensations!


(It is much easier said than done, though, because it would require transparency: which would mean people can express themselves without fear. Society broad-strokes punishments that do not fit the fickle paradigm.)

timewerx said:

That is despite their claims of maintaining political correctness. You look at internet for example. Most ads for leisure and travel show whites, most ads for gardening show whites, most ads for humanitarian issues show blacks, most ads for science, research, and technology show whites, most ads for basketball and sometimes other sports show blacks, look for articles about fashion and beauty most will show whites.

That has to change and should have been done a long time ago already.

Click to expand...

This archetype is also a primarily Western view; it isn't reality. Not saying any one "race" is better, but the statistically based demographically-influenced ads are not a reflection of reality (especially in terms of scientific reality).

Kaon said:

This archetype is also a primarily Western view; it isn't reality. Not saying any one "race" is better, but the statistically based demographically-influenced ads are not a reflection of reality (especially in terms of scientific reality).

Click to expand...

It might be true.

But the mass media and entertainment should not be reinforcing the negative side of society like always portraying Blacks as murderous gangsters and drug and gun runners like it's a cool thing for them. Big money is involved here so things are pretty serious and unfortunately, effective.

Ever heard of "destructive resonance"? A known phenomenon in engineering but is also reflective of the relationship between society and mass and entertainment media.

timewerx said:

It might be true.

But the mass media and entertainment should not be reinforcing the negative side of society like always portraying Blacks as murderous gangsters and drug and gun runners like it's a cool thing for them. Big money is involved here so things are pretty serious and unfortunately, effective.

Ever heard of "destructive resonance"? A known phenomenon in engineering but is also reflective of the relationship between society and mass and entertainment media.

Click to expand...

Indeed, but this isn't true before we get to any resonant "period." It is a gross lie. Americans especially treat their ethnically diverse as burdens, and stereotypes them as idiots and tragic cases. So far from the truth, but necessary to build the paradigm we have today.

The Western archetype that stereotypes non-white entities as animals and non-human (no matter the frequency of dog whistle) is nowhere near the resonance of truth. The acceptable (more resonant) archetypes justifies it as a fault of genetics ("that is just who they are") rather that distinguishing it as a gross myopia of humanity at best. This is why people who are raised by racists believe their racism is justified; it is never challenged as an existential plague, it is treated as a biological cold.

So, I wouldn't go so easy on any paradigm, and say that any of the "others (including Irish and Italians) are bad and evil animals" like the West has perpetuated. There is definitely an "ism" being exploited; there always has.

Either way, the media is a reflection of the population consciousness. The apathetic disgrace the media "had become" is a reflection of the people. That is why America is so easily exploited socially and financially right now. Just in time for collapse.

2Timothy2:15 said:

This just goes to show that you have no idea what the racial climate is here in the US all the way from Germany. Any guy who goes around painting black power colors on trees on on porches is not some meek victim to a couple girls....come on

Click to expand...

That's funny. You had entirely the opposite response to false charges being leveled against Brett Kavanaugh. Why the double standard?

Kavanaugh Accuser Admits She Never Met Him

2Timothy2:15 said:

Kavanaugh should sue her for character defamation. This stuff is the MO of the Dems.

Click to expand...

iluvatar5150 said:

That's funny. You had entirely the opposite response to false charges being leveled against Brett Kavanaugh. Why the double standard?

Click to expand...

Funny, the person who accused Kavanaugh came out as a complete liar. Actually if you are going to quote my comments about Kavanaugh then do so word for word and not out of context.

2Timothy2:15 said:

Funny, the person who accused Kavanaugh came out as a complete liar. Actually if you are going to quote my comments about Kavanaugh then do so word for word and not out of context.

Click to expand...

The women in this story were complete liars. They lied about him having a gun (when he only had a rake) and they lied about being told by a local principal that he was a pedophile. Other claims were likely lies, too, though these are the easiest to disprove (and the easiest for me to remember without revisiting the articles).

And I did quote you "word for word". That quote was the entirety of your post, and unless I missed it, the only post you made in that thread (so there was no context for me to miss). I also posted a link to it so that anyone can see the source of that quote.

So, again I ask you - why the double standard?

iluvatar5150 said:

The women in this story were complete liars. They lied about him having a gun (when he only had a rake) and they lied about being told by a local principal that he was a pedophile. Other claims were likely lies, too, though these are the easiest to disprove (and the easiest for me to remember without revisiting the articles).

And I did quote you "word for word". That quote was the entirety of your post, and unless I missed it, the only post you made in that thread (so there was no context for me to miss). I also posted a link to it so that anyone can see the source of that quote.

So, again I ask you - why the double standard?

Click to expand...

What the double standard is you are taking one sides word as gospel. How does that make me a double standard? I said there are two sides to the story, lies on both. First off the two cases are totally different. Second what was the actual charges brought in court and dismissed? You are taking a SINGLE article and hanging your hat on it like it is facts.


Third in the Kavanaugh case she admitted she lied out of her own mouth and she should be sued for defamation. Kavanaugh never lied or was proven that he did. That issue was investigated my multiple people and covered from multiple angles and never brought to criminal court. You think these two cases are the like? smh

2Timothy2:15 said:

What the double standard is you are taking one sides word as gospel. How does that make me a double standard? I said there are two sides to the story, lies on both.

Click to expand...

Yes, you said that without any evidence at all that Peeples (the black guy) lied. You expressed skepticism based, at least partly, on your impression that he painted "black power colors" on some trees and vacant porches: "Any guy who goes around painting black power colors on trees on on porches is not some meek victim to a couple girls....come on"

Second what was the actual charges brought in court and dismissed?

Click to expand...

Three counts of misdemeanor stalking.

You are taking a SINGLE article and hanging your hat on it like it is facts.

Click to expand...

No, I read the original Detroit Metro Times article, too.
Detroit judge tosses 'gardening while black' case brought by three white women

And I looked up the court docs (which don't provide much unfortunately)
https://dapps.36thdistrictcourt.org...D&CASE=1804488301&PTY=D01&FILENAME=D111270935

Third in the Kavanaugh case she admitted she lied out of her own mouth and she should be sued for defamation. Kavanaugh never lied or was proven that he did. That issue was investigated my multiple people and covered from multiple angles and never brought to criminal court. You think these two cases are the like? smh

Click to expand...

Peeple's case was investigated, too, and the prosecution couldn't bring any evidence to support their claims. In the Metro Times article, the judge was pretty clear about what she thought of the charges against him.

I have no idea what relevance Kavanaugh's lying (or not lying) has here. Is it because you think Peeple's is lying? If so, why would you assume that?

iluvatar5150 said:

So, again I ask you - why the double standard?

Click to expand...

Ehhh...maybe these old ladies are racist, maybe not. Bottom line...who cares?