Should Christians Carry Guns?

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OP: Sure, if they want to.
Not necessarily.

You may WANT to eat a cheese burger, but that doesnt mean you "should".

As for if a Christian should own a gun, that is between them and God.

If they are not convicted by the Spirit to not own one and their conscience is not bothered by owning a gun then there is no disobedience in owning one.

IF they are convicted to not own one and they ignore their conscience, then they have bigger things to worry about than someone breaking into their house because they are in willful disobedience to God.

It also depends on WHY they want a gun. IF they want a gun because they trust in the gun or themself to protect themself or their family then God is not pleased due to the fact their faith in "safery" is found by man made weapons over His protection.

Guns arent the problem, even Peter had a sword, but it must NOT be where our comfort comes from. So it is for each Christian to take the matter up with God and obey His response and others not to judge them for it... but IF they choose to disobey God there is a far greater risk of falling than not having a gun.
 
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Jesus placed himself between us and our assailant (God) on the cross leaving us an example to follow. None of us will die before our time, gun or no gun. So we should simply follow his example and be willing to take the bullet for someone else apart from using violence to combat violence.
 
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Dave, you can do that but you'd better not have a family. Your children will grow up hating Jesus for requiring you to die on purpose if you didn't have to.
But we do not see a single Christian in the NT using violence to defend themselves (except Peter whom Christ rebuked). They always removed themselves, loving their enemies rather than harming or killing them.
 
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carrying a gun shows a lack of Trust in the Messiah
That is judgement and your opinion.

Maybe the person simply enjoys target shooting which is neither sin nor a lack of faith that God can provide more than adequate protection.

Peter carried a sword, a weapon, yet he was NOT instructed to put it aside as he was with Christ. (Yes Jesus healed the ear, He simply said it was time)

It is for the individual to decide, not for us to judge their level of faith because they choose to carry.
 
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Jesus also instructed His disciples to carry a short sword or a dagger which is clearly a weapon (Luke 22:36).

What is going on in Matthew 26:52? What Jesus meant there is NOT to take their cause in arms as in an "armed rebellion". Otherwise, it would contradict Luke 22:36.

But for self-defense is okay. Therefore, you can carry a concealed weapon for self-defense purpose as you wish!

To put this in perspective, Jesus at one point, defended Himself from death. A crowd who wanted to push Him off a cliff to kill Him. He made Himself vanish in front of them. A ninja trick? We'll never know.

Christianity is NOT a "suicide" nor a "martyrdom" cult. NOT by far. You have an honorable right to defend yourself or even run away from danger. I can show a few more verses if you want.
1. No brother, he said nothing about defending oneself. This is what he was speaking of when he said:
35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.

36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

He that carried the purse and script was Judas(he was the only one with those things) he was speaking to what Judas would later do in turning him in
36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
John 12:4-6
4 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,
5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.

John 13:29
29 For some of them thought, because Judas had the bag, that Jesus had said unto him, Buy those things that we have need of against the feast; or, that he should give something to the poor.

When he told he that had not the sword to buy the sword he spoke of peter who would draw up the sword
36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: andhe that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Matt 26:51-54
51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.
52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
54 But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?

John 18:10-11
10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

This was said to them because all that was spoken of him must be fulfilled.

37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough."

He spoke of what needed to be fulfilled of him not of self defense.


2. Christ fled from people trying to kill him. It doesn't say he harmed anyone. We are all told to either flee death for die for Christ. We always have two options.

3. By the Law of Love we have a honorable right to flee for our lives and to die for Christ. Anything outside of that breaks God's Gospel of Peace.
 
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This is not an attempt to make anyone angry or stir up anything. This is a real question that I'm struggling with in my life right now. I just want to start a friendly debate/discussion and I also don't want to include politics in this.

That being said, I'm considering getting a permit to carry a concealed weapon. It's something that I've thought about for a long time now and it's been back on the front of my mind lately. I would want to train myself so I knew how to use the weapon and when using it, I would never want to kill anyone.

But my question is, is it wrong for a Christian to carry a gun? In Matthew 26:52, Jesus warns Peter that all who draw the sword will die by the sword. Does this mean that we shouldn't arm ourselves? I personally know a few Christians who live firmly by the second amendment and therefore have lots of guns for protection. Does God frown upon this?
It is wrong for a Christian to use a gun in violence, carrying a Gun however is not wrong. You have to consider the fact that if you have a gun a and a situation arises where someone is attacking you the gun will be there as a temptation to do harm to this man or woman thus bringing yourself to sin.

It is better to avoid this temptation altogether and not carry a gun, but again carrying one is not a sin(it being just a tool that could also be used for hunting or hammering if stuck in the wilderness) just using one in violence is. Having a gun invites temptation but if you trust yourself well enough not to use it to harm another man then go for it. But it is better to leave your guns at home if you have them.
 
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1. No brother, he said nothing about defending oneself. This is what he was speaking of when he said:
35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.

36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

He that carried the purse and script was Judas(he was the only one with those things) he was speaking to what Judas would later do in turning him in
36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
John 12:4-6
4 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,
5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.

John 13:29
29 For some of them thought, because Judas had the bag, that Jesus had said unto him, Buy those things that we have need of against the feast; or, that he should give something to the poor.

When he told he that had not the sword to buy the sword he spoke of peter who would draw up the sword
36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: andhe that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Matt 26:51-54
51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.
52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
54 But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?

John 18:10-11
10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

This was said to them because all that was spoken of him must be fulfilled.

37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough."

He spoke of what needed to be fulfilled of him not of self defense.


2. Christ fled from people trying to kill him. It doesn't say he harmed anyone. We are all told to either flee death for die for Christ. We always have two options.

3. By the Law of Love we have a honorable right to flee for our lives and to die for Christ. Anything outside of that breaks God's Gospel of Peace.
I hope everyone saying,"But Jesus said take a sword" as an excuse to carry guns, reads your post.
 
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But we do not see a single Christian in the NT using violence to defend themselves (except Peter whom Christ rebuked). They always removed themselves, loving their enemies rather than harming or killing them.
Peter is no example because it was time for Christ to go to the cross and no one could interfere with that. Not seeing it in the bible doesn't mean it didn't happen. A lot of things aren't seen in scripture but that doesn't turn them into commands or examples. Peter walked with the creator of the universe for 3 years and carried a sword and Jesus did not prohibit it. Even though you'd think he should have been as safe as anyone could get. Don't invent commands. If you are attacked will you say, "Excuse me, I must sell my home and move away now." Don't you have any responsibility toward those who depend on you? Love your family first! If you love the enemy first, you will ruin everything else.
 
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Peter is no example because it was time for Christ to go to the cross and no one could interfere with that. Not seeing it in the bible doesn't mean it didn't happen. A lot of things aren't seen in scripture but that doesn't turn them into commands or examples. Peter walked with the creator of the universe for 3 years and carried a sword and Jesus did not prohibit it. Even though you'd think he should have been as safe as anyone could get. Don't invent commands. If you are attacked will you say, "Excuse me, I must sell my home and move away now." Don't you have any responsibility toward those who depend on you? Love your family first! If you love the enemy first, you will ruin everything else.
Violence is not an option for the Christian. Peter's sword, one of two daggers, led the pharisees and Romans to arrest Jesus for insurrection. With out them, evidence would not exist to convict him.

sword = 6.33 μάχαιραa, ης f: a relatively short sword (or even dagger) used for cutting and stabbing—‘sword, dagger.’ ὡς ἐπὶ λῃστὴν ἐξήλθατε μετὰ μαχαιρῶν καὶ ξύλων συλλαβεῖν με ‘you did (not have to) come with swords and clubs to capture me as though I were an outlaw’ Mt 26:55.

Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 57). New York: United Bible Societies.
 
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That is judgement and your opinion.

Maybe the person simply enjoys target shooting which is neither sin nor a lack of faith that God can provide more than adequate protection.

Peter carried a sword, a weapon, yet he was NOT instructed to put it aside as he was with Christ. (Yes Jesus healed the ear, He simply said it was time)

It is for the individual to decide, not for us to judge their level of faith because they choose to carry.
It is not my opinion its what the bible tells us to do trust in him, those who don't trust sin
 
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When I was four years old, I was completing a puzzle on the front doorstep, when a police officer stepped over my puzzle to knock on our door. Our neighbors, apparently, had kept a gun in their house for protection. All of them knew where it was, and all of them treated it with the fear and respect that it deserved. That wasn't enough. A visitor found the gun that day and treated it like a toy. No one knew he even had the gun until a member of the family dropped dead. The member who bought the gun was vomiting blood after that, just from the stress. It's the problem of the law of unintended consequences.

Generally, I'm all in favor of the idea of being armed, but I don't carry for three reasons:
  1. I live in California. The law is against me.
  2. Though I'm not likely to use it wrongfully, out of anger, I am quite likely to forget to use it when I really need it.
  3. The law of unintended consequences. I can do everything right and still get convicted by a jury, shot by a nervous cop, or a variety of other things.
Weighing the likelihood of needing it against the likelihood of having it do more harm than good, I decided I was probably better off not having one...for now.
 
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But my question is, is it wrong for a Christian to carry a gun?
Is it wrong to be prepared to defend yourself and others against evil people? Of course not.

Is it wrong to not be prepared to defend yourself and others against evil people? Absolutely.
 
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I would say that it is best not to carry a gun, except in unusual circumstances, as accidents do happen.
They do but most of those "accidents" are actually people being careless. There are VERY few honest to goodness accidental discharges.
 
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Then why carry it?
Just in case it is NEEDED to solve a problem sometimes that is the only thing that works. It should always be a last resort, but that does not mean that there are never situtions that call for them.
 
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Be better if it was against the law to carry one.
nope because then the only people that would carry them would be those with no respect for the law and that would mean harm.
 
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‘He who lives by the sword dies by the sword’ has nothing to do with a person who would like some protection in the event they are cornered by a thug, or have a knife pulled on them. I would carry if my state allowed it.
I would carry, as well if my eyesight and motor skills allowed it. My state is not an issue.
 
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Just in case it is NEEDED to solve a problem sometimes that is the only thing that works. It should always be a last resort, but that does not mean that there are never situtions that call for them.
Amen! I’ll never forget what the teacher of my CCW class said:

“I would rather be judged by 12 than carried out by 6.”
 
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