IS THE LORD'S DAY REALLY SUNDAY OR GOD'S SABBATH DAY?

klutedavid · Nov 9, 2018

Danthemailman said:
Amen! Notice that the Greek word "sabbatismos" is used no where else in the Bible! Amazing that Sabbatarians would suggest that this is the word for "keeping the weekly Sabbath" when it is never used anywhere else, in spite of the many references to Jews keeping the weekly Sabbath in the NT.

W. E. Vine, Greek Dictionary on "Rest" shows the Sabbatarian argument to be wrong:

SABBATISMOS (4520), a Sabbath-keeping, is used in Hebrews 4:9, R.V., "a Sabbath rest," A.V. marg., "a keeping of a Sabbath" (akin to sabbatizoµ, to keep the Sabbath, used, e.g., in Ex. 16:30, not in the N.T.); here the Sabbath-keeping is the perpetual Sabbath rest to be enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in their fellowship with the Father and the Son, in contrast to the weekly Sabbath under the Law. Because this Sabbath rest is the rest of God Himself, 4:10, its full fruition is yet future, though believers now enter into it. In whatever way they enter into Divine rest, that which they enjoy is involved in an indissoluble relation with God.

I think LGW has a day of rest today?

He may be very busy when he returns, have you seen how many posts. That he needs to respond to.

klutedavid · Nov 9, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
Hello Brother David,

Now isnt' it funny that nothing you have posted above supports anything that you are trying to respond to in the post you are quoting from? What is it that you have provided above that you think responds to anything in the post you are trying to respond to?

Where have I ever said that the ROMANS CATHOLIC CHURCH controlled all aspects of God's Church (Those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW GOD's WORD)? Your trying to make arguments that I am not even talking about or saying (strawman).

Now if I am not even talking about what you are discussing than why try and claim that I am? Or why try and make arguments that no one is talking about? Please address the scriptures and the posts provided to you. It is good that you finally agree that that Roman Catholic Church traces it's history back to the Apostles this is all that I have been sharing with you.

God bless.

Your church claims that the Roman Catholic Church changed the Sabbath to Sunday. Don't believe me? Well read the following extract.

I saw that the Sabbath commandment was not nailed to the cross. If it was, the other nine commandments were; and we are at liberty to break them all, as well as to break the fourth. I saw that God had not changed the Sabbath, for He never changes. But the pope had changed it from the seventh to the first day of the week; for he was to change times and laws in Daniel 7:25. (Ellen G White, A word to the Little Flock, page 18, paragraph 3)

So what pope changed the Sabbath day to Sunday?

Was Ellen G White wrong?

Who in fact changed the Sabbath to Sunday?

Danthemailman · Nov 9, 2018

NeedyFollower said:
Brother ....I do hope you read the rest of the reply to Brother Solomon for Monday is also the Lord's Day ...as is Tuesday . Even the wicked belong to the Lord ....all things were made by Him and without Him was nothing made ...nothing. Every day belongs to Jesus ..But our hope is in Jesus Christ ...not in knowledge for knowledge puffs up but love edifies ...as Paul relates and we know to be true Galatians 6:14 .but God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified unto me and me unto the world . So may I place my salvation in knowing that Sunday is the Lord's Day ? No ..May I place my salvation in knowing that every day is the Lord's ? No ...May I place my salvation in knowing that this debate is most likely a snare of the enemy to stir up debate about things not necessary for salvation ? No ...my hope is in Jesus Christ . I trust yours is as well .

My hope is absolutely in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of my salvation (Romans 3:24-28) and is certainly not in worshiping God on a particular day as a "legalistic prescription" in order to obtain salvation. (Colossians 2:16-17)

Monna · Nov 9, 2018

LoveGodsWord said:
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Whether or not you are correct, it was a pattern that was established very early on...

Acts 20:7
On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them, intending to depart on the morrow; and he prolonged his speech until midnight.

1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that contributions need not be made when I come.

To me it is very reasonable to believe that when Paul travelled around on his missionary trips that he went "first to the Jews" meeting them in their synagogues on the 7th day of the week. But as time went on more and more non-Jews joined the church, and it is unlikely that they were welcome to worship in the synagogue. Converted Jews may well have wanted to continue to meet their ethnic community members - many Jewish believers did not really see Christianity as a distinct religion, as shown by many of Paul's letters - and so they could well have continued to respect the Jewish Sabbath, but joined their non-Jewish brothers and sisters on the following day "to break bread." Remember that it was on Sunday that Christ rose from the dead, and the resurrection was/is at the heart of the Christian faith, so it would be natural to select that particular day to celebrate the death and resurrection of their Lord.

If as you say, LoveGodsWord, this was a breach of the commandments of God, it is interesting that Paul never seems to have reprimanded the church for meeting on the first day of the week. Either he understood that Christ extended the meaning of "sabbath" to every day, or he consistently broke God's commandments and encouraged others to do the same.

ToServe · Nov 9, 2018

Literacy can be dispensed in many forms and when the early Church began to preach to people, the literacy methods used were not reading and writing, but were predominantly verbal recounts accompanied by prayer recitals that accounts to why the Orthodox Churches use Liturgy as the form of literacy to dispense the teachings of Jesus Christ in a way that requires the subjects to take part in the service in an intrinsically motivated manner. Literacy was not an intellectual exercise but rather it was owing to the receptiveness of a broken and contrite heart that presented itself in a Holy Communion on Sunday to commemorate the resurrection of our Lord and saviour, on the Lord's Day.

The Lord's Day is very explicitly declared when God made a stand for humanity and in a single day removed their sins and reconciled them back to him within the context of the Garden story as if nothing had been breached between God and humanity. That is why Jesus is called the Last Adam and we are by faith, underline faith brought into adoption through the Last Adam Jesus Christ.

The 'Type' Joshua was the High Priest

Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right side to accuse him. 2The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?” (Zechariah 3:1-2)

The 'Anti-Type' Jesus is the Kingly High Priest

“ ‘Listen, High Priest Joshua, you and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. See, the stone I have set in front of Joshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,’ says the Lord Almighty, ‘and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day.

“ ‘In that day each of you will invite your neighbor to sit under your vine and fig tree,’ declares the Lord Almighty.” (Zechariah 3:8-10)

in a single
אֶחָֽד׃ (’e·ḥāḏ)
Number - masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 259: 1) one (number) 1a) one (number) 1b) each, every1c) a certain 1d) an (indefinite article) 1e) only, once, once for all.

The stubbornness of attitude of defining the Lord's Day any other day than the single day on the Cross at Calvary is, in short, a failed attempt in vain to dismiss it as God's Rest Day. That Day on the Cross resets the sins of the Land as if Adam had not fallen and so that on that single day the Last Adam and his seeds through adoption were restored to the Garden of God. This reveals to us that God had once again restored them and allowed them to eat from the Tree of Life Jesus Christ and allowed them to enter his Rest Day just as Adam had before the Fall.

Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,

“So I declared on oath in my anger, ‘They (Old Covenant Israel) shall never enter my rest.’ ”

And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world. 4For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.” 5And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.” (Hebrews 4:3-5)

Hebrews writer is explicitly clear and concise in that believers enter God's Rest Day by faith in the completed works of Christ on the Cross. The reference to granting the believers access to God's rest is clearly conveyed through the 'Type' Garden story, that is "the finished works of God since the creation of the world". The "somewhere he has spoken about" is now indicative of the 'anti-type' Garden story projected in the future and pointing to the Cross at Calvary.

This deductive exegesis study yields the following rendering of the verses.

"On the Seventh Day, Jesus Christ rested from all his works" (Ani-Type)

It is finished!
It is truly finished!

What more can people do to offend God and his Christ and how much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? (Hebrews 10:29)

ToServe · Nov 9, 2018

I truly have come to believe that the Old Covenant sabbaths are the Abomination of Desolation.

I truly believe that God's Sabbath is Christ's Cross Day (Single Day) and is the Daily Sacrifice once and for all.

Our Kingly High Priest Jesus Christ offered The Daily with his own blood in the Holy of Holies, for all of us who believe , when Christ became that daily blood atonement once and for all.

Monk Brendan · Nov 9, 2018

klutedavid said:
Your church claims that the Roman Catholic Church changed the Sabbath to Sunday. Don't believe me? Well read the following extract.

I saw that the Sabbath commandment was not nailed to the cross. If it was, the other nine commandments were; and we are at liberty to break them all, as well as to break the fourth. I saw that God had not changed the Sabbath, for He never changes. But the pope had changed it from the seventh to the first day of the week; for he was to change times and laws in Daniel 7:25. (Ellen G White, A word to the Little Flock, page 18, paragraph 3)

So what pope changed the Sabbath day to Sunday?

Was Ellen G White wrong?

Who in fact changed the Sabbath to Sunday?

ALL of the pre-Reformation Eastern Churches, including those not under the jurisdiction of the Pope, or in any connection with him, have Sunday as the principal day of worship.

Just one of the many things EGW was wrong about.

Monk Brendan · Nov 9, 2018

klutedavid said:
Hello Monk Brendan.

This is not true, you say?

With the Edict of Thessalonica in 380 AD, Emperor Theodosius I, made Nicene Christianity the Empire's state religion. (wikipedia)

Why are you at odds with what wikipedia claims?

David, go back and read what I said. I said that Constantine did not make Christianity the State Religion.

I've noticed that wikipedia is NOT an accurate source for Church history.

nonaeroterraqueous · Nov 9, 2018

parousia70 said:
But their argument falls apart once we realize that no one could read written language until modern times....

That's actually not true. During the time of the Roman Empire literacy was common. It wasn't until the complete fall of the Roman Empire and the onset of the Dark Ages that illiteracy became widespread. That's why it was called the Dark Ages, because little history was recorded, because people were predominantly illiterate. The church was nearly the sole cause of bringing the world out of the Dark Ages, by teaching people to read. By the 1300s, Europe was back to being fairly literate again.

prodromos · Nov 9, 2018

klutedavid said:
Hello Monk Brendan.

This is not true, you say?

With the Edict of Thessalonica in 380 AD, Emperor Theodosius I, made Nicene Christianity the Empire's state religion. (wikipedia)

Why are you at odds with what wikipedia claims?

Emperor Theodosius who ruled from 379 to 395AD, is not Emperor Constantine who ruled until 337AD

klutedavid · Nov 9, 2018

Monk Brendan said:
David, go back and read what I said. I said that Constantine did not make Christianity the State Religion.

I've noticed that wikipedia is NOT an accurate source for Church history.

Sorry about that, I just reacted as usual to what I assumed was error.

I must say I have earned some respect for the eastern churches. They figure so largely in church history, but are drowned out by the Roman Catholic Church.

I agree with you about google and church history, a very western and at times Roman Catholic history.

klutedavid · Nov 9, 2018

prodromos said:
Emperor Theodosius who ruled from 379 to 395AD, is not Emperor Constantine who ruled until 337AD

Thanks, corrected that muddle.

prodromos · Nov 9, 2018

Just to add a detail, the Church in Armenia (Armenia is the first nation to accept Christianity as a whole) also worships primarily on Sunday, and they were never under the influence of Rome. It is a consistent historical fact that all the churches established by the seventy, from India to Greece and Western Europe all consider the 1st day of the week to be the Lord's Day and worship primarily on that day.
This is the apostolic witness.

Monk Brendan · Nov 10, 2018

prodromos said:
Just to add a detail, the Church in Armenia (Armenia is the first nation to accept Christianity as a whole) also worships primarily on Sunday, and they were never under the influence of Rome. It is a consistent historical fact that all the churches established by the seventy, from India to Greece and Western Europe all consider the 1st day of the week to be the Lord's Day and worship primarily on that day.
This is the apostolic witness.

prodromos, I've pointed that out to many SDA's.

Once I was taking to a life-long SDA about Eastern Church history. He said, "If what you're saying is true, what does this do to the Adventist interpretation of Bible prophecy?"

I replied, "You said this, not I. What I'm telling you can be verified in secular encyclopedias. I challenge you to see for yourself if what I'm saying is true. If you do, would you then be willing to RE-EVALUATE SDA interpretaion of Bible prophecy?"

After a moment of thought, he said, "No."

IOW, don't confuse him with facts; his mind is made up.

LoveGodsWord · Nov 10, 2018

prodromos said:
Just to add a detail, the Church in Armenia (Armenia is the first nation to accept Christianity as a whole) also worships primarily on Sunday, and they were never under the influence of Rome. It is a consistent historical fact that all the churches established by the seventy, from India to Greece and Western Europe all consider the 1st day of the week to be the Lord's Day and worship primarily on that day.
This is the apostolic witness.

It is not an apostolic witness at all. All through God's WORD from Genesis to JESUS and the APOSTLES to after the death of JESUS and to this very present day God has always had christians that have kept the Sabbath. The only apostolic witness is the bible and all of God's apostles kept God's 4th commandment SEVENTH DAY SABBATH according to God's WORD. This has continued all through time to this very present day.

HISTORY OF THE SABBATH AFTER THE DEATH OF JESUS

Sabbath Observance Through The Centuries - The First Century A.D.

INSTITUTION OF THE SABBATH
"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." (Genesis 2:1-3 )

JESUS
"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read." (Luke 4:16)

JESUS
"And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matthew 19:16,17)

JESUS
"But pray ye that your flight be not in winter, neither on the Sabbath day." (Matthew 24, 20).
NOTE: Jesus asked his disciples to pray that in the flight from the doomed city of Jerusalem they would not have to flee on the Sabbath day. This flight took place in 70 A.D. 40 years after the Jesus' crucfixion and we see here that Jesus fully expected His church to be observing His true seventh day Sabbath that He Himself proclaimed to be the Lord of.

JESUS' FOLLOWERS
"And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments and rested the Sabbath day according to the commandment." (Luke 23:56.) Did these women make a mistake and keep the wrong sabbath or was it that Christ NEVER EVER hinted that there would be a change forthcoming???

PAUL
"And Paul, as his manner was went in unto them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the Scriptures" (Acts 17:2) Did Christ fail to inform Paul on the road to Damascus that there's now a new sabbath? Or rather does the silence of Christ speak volumes against the papal sabbath???

PAUL AND THE GENTILES
"And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath. And the next Sabbath came almost the whole city together to hear the Word of God." Acts 13:42, 44.

Here we find Gentiles in a Gentile city gathering on the Sabbath. It was not a synagogue meeting in verse 44, for it says almost the whole city came together, verse 42 says they asked to hear the message the "next Sabbath."

And get this: The Bible does not say it is the "old Jewish Sabbath that was passed away," but the Spirit of God, writing the Book of Acts some 30 years after the crucifixion, calls it "the next Sabbath."

JOHN
"I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day." Rev.1:10 (Matthew 12:6; Mark 2:28, Isa.58:13, Ex.20:10, Clearly show the Sabbath to be the Lord's day).
The term "Lord's day" in reference to sunday came later. The Biblical meaning for Lord's day is the day that God calls "My holy day" and the day that Jesus said He is Lord of.

JOSEPHUS
"There is not any city of the Grecians, nor any of the Barbarians, nor any nation whatsoever, whither our custom of resting on the seventh day hath not come!" M'Clatchie, "Notes and Queries on China and Japan" (edited by Dennys), Vol 4, Nos 7, 8, p.100.

PHILO
Declares the seventh day to be a festival, not of this or of that city, but of the universe. M'Clatchie, "Notes and Queries," Vol. 4, 99

So we have incontrovertible proof that the observance of sunday was NOT practiced by the apostolic church of the first century. Although the poison of apostasy had already begun, it did not reach the ascendancy until the passage of a few more centuries.

The next installment will show the historical record of the early christians observing the true seventh day Sabbath in the second century A.D.

CONCLUSION: The only apostolic witness is the bible and all the APOSTLES kept the Sabbath and God's people have always kept the Sabbath all through time according to God's Word.

more to come...

LoveGodsWord · Nov 10, 2018

Sabbath Observance Through The Centuries - The Second Century A.D.

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EARLY CHRISTIANS - 2nd Century
"The primitive Christians had a great veneration for the Sabbath, and spent the day in devotion and sermons. And it is not to be doubted but they derived this practice from the Apostles themselves, as appears by several scriptures to the purpose." "Dialogues on the Lord's Day," p. 189. London: 1701, By Dr. T.H. Morer (A Church of England divine).

EARLY CHRISTIANS - 2nd Century
"...The Sabbath was a strong tie which united them with the life of the whole people, and in keeping the Sabbath holy they followed not only the example but also the command of Jesus." "Geschichte des Sonntags," pp.13, 14

EARLY CHRISTIANS - 2nd Century
"The Gentile Christians observed also the Sabbath," Gieseler's "Church History," Vol.1, ch. 2, par. 30, 93.

EARLY CHRISTIANS - 2nd Century
"The primitive Christians did keep the Sabbath of the Jews;...therefore the Christians, for a long time together, did keep their conventions upon the Sabbath, in which some portions of the law were read: and this continued till the time of the Laodicean council." "The Whole Works" of Jeremy Taylor, Vol. IX,p. 416 (R. Heber's Edition, Vol XII, p. 416).

EARLY CHRISTIANS - 2nd Century
"It is certain that the ancient Sabbath did remain and was observed (together with the celebration of the Lord's day) by the Christians of the East Church, above three hundred years after our Saviour's death." "A Learned Treatise of the Sabbath," p. 77

Note: By the "Lord's day" here the writer means Sunday and not the true Sabbath," which the Bible says is the Sabbath. This quotation shows Sunday coming into use in the early centuries soon after the death of the Apostles. It illustrates the apostasy that Paul the Apostle foretold of when he spoke about a great "falling away" from the Truth that would take place soon after his death.

"From the apostles' time until the council of Laodicea, which was about the year 364, the holy observance of the Jews' Sabbath continued, as may be proved out of many authors: yea, notwithstanding the decree of the council against it." "Sunday a Sabbath." John Ley, p.163. London: 1640.

CONCLUSION: The only apostolic witness is the bible and all the APOSTLES kept the Sabbath and God's people have always kept the Sabbath all through time according to God's Word.

more to come...

LoveGodsWord · Nov 10, 2018

Sabbath Observance Through The Centuries - The Third Century A.D.

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EGYPT (OXYRHYNCHUS PAPYRUS) (200-250 A.D.)
"Except ye make the sabbath a real sabbath (sabbatize the Sabbath," Greek), ye shall not see the Father." "The oxyrhynchus Papyri," pt,1, p.3, Logion 2, verso 4-11 (London Offices of the Egypt Exploration Fund, 1898).
EARLY CHRISTIANS-C 3rd
"Thou shalt observe the Sabbath, on account of Him who ceased from His work of creation, but ceased not from His work of providence: it is a rest for meditation of the law, not for idleness of the hands." "The Anti-Nicene Fathers," Vol 7,p. 413. From "Constitutions of the Holy Apostles," a document of the 3rd and 4th Centuries.

AFRICA (ALEXANDRIA) ORIGEN
"After the festival of the unceasing sacrifice (the crucifixion) is put the second festival of the Sabbath, and it is fitting for whoever is righteous among the saints to keep also the festival of the Sabbath. There remaineth therefore a sabbatismus, that is, a keeping of the Sabbath, to the people of God (Hebrews 4:9)." "Homily on Numbers 23," par.4, in Migne, "Patrologia Graeca," Vol. 12,cols. 749, 750.

PALESTINE TO INDIA (CHURCH OF THE EAST)
As early as A.D. 225 there existed large bishoprics or conferences of the Church of the East (Sabbath-keeping) stretching from Palestine to India. Mingana, "Early Spread of Christianity." Vol.10, p. 460.

INDIA (BUDDHIST CONTROVERSY), 220 A.D.)
The Kushan Dynasty of North India called a famous council of Buddhist priests at Vaisalia to bring uniformity among the Buddhist monks on the observance of their weekly Sabbath. Some had been so impressed by the writings of the Old Testament that they had begun to keep holy the Sabbath. Lloyd, "The Creed of Half Japan," p. 23.

EARLY CHRISTIANS
"The seventh-day Sabbath was...solemnised by Christ, the Apostles, and primitive Christians, till the Laodicean Council did in manner quite abolish the observations of it." "Dissertation on the Lord's Day," pp. 33, 34
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CONCLUSION: The only apostolic witness is the bible and all the APOSTLES kept the Sabbath and God's people have always kept the Sabbath all through time according to God's Word.

more to come...

LoveGodsWord · Nov 10, 2018

Sabbath Observance Through The Centuries - The Fourth Century A.D.

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ITALY AND EAST-C 4th
"It was the practice generally of the Easterne Churches; and some churches of the west...For in the Church of Millaine (Milan);...it seems the Saturday was held in a farre esteeme... Not that the Easterne Churches, or any of the rest which observed that day, were inclined to Iudaisme (Judaism); but that they came together on the Sabbath day, to worship Iesus (Jesus) Christ the Lord of the Sabbath." "History of the Sabbath" (original spelling retained), Part 2, par. 5, pp.73, 74. London: 1636. Dr. Heylyn.
ORIENT AND MOST OF WORLD
"The ancient Christians were very careful in the observance of Saturday, or the seventh day...It is plain that all the Oriental churches, and the greatest part of the world, observed the Sabbath as a festival...Athanasius likewise tells us that they held religious assembles on the Sabbath, not because they were infected with Judaism, but to worship Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath, Epiphanius says the same." "Antiquities of the Christian Church," Vol.II Book XX, chap. 3, sec.1, 66. 1137,1138.

ABYSSINIA
"In the last half of that century St. Ambrose of Milan stated officially that the Abyssinian bishop, Museus, had 'traveled almost everywhere in the country of the Seres' (China). For more than seventeen centuries the Abyssinian Church continued to sanctify Saturday as the holy day of the fourth commandment." Ambrose, DeMoribus, Brachmanorium Opera Ominia, 1132, found in Migne, Patrologia Latima, Vol.17, pp.1131,1132.

ARABIA, PERSIA, INDIA, CHINA
"Mingana proves that in 370 A.D. Abyssinian Christianity (a Sabbath keeping church) was so popular that its famous director, Musacus, travelled extensively in the East promoting the church in Arabia, Persia, India and China." "Truth Triumphanat,"p.308 (Footnote 27).

ITALY-MILAN
"Ambrose, the celebrated bishop of Milan, said that when he was in Milan he observed Saturday, but when in Rome observed Sunday. This gave rise to the proverb, 'When you are in Rome, do as Rome does.'" Heylyn, "The History of the Sabbath" (1612)

SPAIN-COUNCIL ELVIRA (A.D.305)
Canon 26 of the Council of Elvira reveals that the Church of Spain at that time kept Saturday, the seventh day. "As to fasting every Sabbath: Resolved, that the error be corrected of fasting every Sabbath." This resolution of the council is in direct opposition to the policy the church at Rome had inaugurated, that of commanding Sabbath as a fast day in order to humiliate it and make it repugnant to the people.

SPAIN
It is a point of further interest to note that in north-eastern Spain near the city of Barcelona is a city called Sabadell, in a district originaly inhabited. By a people called both "Valldenses" and Sabbatati."

PERSIA-A.D. 335-375 (40 YEARS PERSECUTION UNDER SHAPUR II)
The popular complaint against the Christians-"They despise our sungod, they have divine services on Saturday, they desecrate the sacred the earth by burying their dead in it." Truth Triumphant," p.170.

PERSIA-A.D.335-375
"They despise our sun-god. Did not Zorcaster, the sainted founder of our divine beliefs, institute Sunday one thousand years ago in honour of the sun and supplant the Sabbath of the Old Testament. Yet these Christians have divine services on Saturday." O'Leary, "The Syriac Church and Fathers," pp.83, 84.

COUNCIL LAODICEA-A.D.365
"Canon 16-On Saturday the Gospels and other portions of the Scripture shall be read aloud." "Canon 29-Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day; but the Lord's day they shall especially honor, and as being Christians, shall, if possible, do no work on that day." Hefele's "Councils," Vol. 2, b. 6.

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CONCLUSION: The only apostolic witness is the bible and all the APOSTLES kept the Sabbath and God's people have always kept the Sabbath all through time according to God's Word.

more to come...

LoveGodsWord · Nov 10, 2018

Sabbath Observance Through The Centuries - The Fifth Century A.D.

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THE WORLD
"For although almost all churches throughout the world celebrated the sacred mysteries (the Lord's Supper) on the Sabbath of every week, yet the Christians of Allexandria and at Rome, on account of some ancient tradition, refuse to do this." The footnote which accompanies the foregoing quotation explains the use of the word "Sabbath." It says: "That is, upon the Saturday. It should be observed, that Sunday is never called "the Sabbath' by the ancient Fathers and historians." Sacrates, "Ecclestical History," Book 5, chap. 22, p. 289.

CONSTANTINOPLE
"The people of Constantinople, and almost everywhere, assemble together on the Sabbath, as well as on the first day of the week, which custom is never observed at Rome or at Alexandria." Socrates, "Ecclesiastical History," Book 7, chap.19.

THE WORLD-AUGUSTINE, BISHOP OF HIPPO (NORTH AFRICA)
Augustine shows here that the Sabbath was observed in his day "in the greater part of the Christian world," and his testimony in this respect is all the more valuable because he himself was an earnest and consistent Sunday-keeper. See "Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers," 1st Series, Vol.1, pp. 353, 354.

POPE INNOCENT (402-417)
Pope Sylvester (314-335) was the first to order the churches to fast on Saturday, and Pope Innocent (402-417) made it a binding law in the churches that obeyed him, (In order to bring the Sabbath into disfavour.) "Innocentius did ordain the Saturday or Sabbath to be always fasted." Dr. Peter Heylyn, "History of the Sabbath, Part 2, p. 44.

THROUGH THE FIFTH CENTURY A.D.
Down even to the fifth century the observance of the Jewish Sabbath was continued in the Christian church. "Ancient Christianity Exemplified," Lyman Coleman, ch. 26, sec. 2, p. 527.

In Jerome's day (420 A.D.) the devoutest Christians did ordinary work on Sunday. "Treatise of the Sabbath Day," by Dr. White, Lord Bishop of Ely, p. 219.

FRANCE
"Wherefore, except Vespers and Nocturns, there are no public services among them in the day except on Saturday (Sabbath) and Sunday." John Cassian, A French monk, "Institutes," Book 3, ch. 2.

AFRICA
"Augustine deplored the fact that in two neighbouring churches in Africa one observes the seventh-day Sabbath, another fasted on it." Dr. Peter Heylyn, "The History of the Sabbath." p. 416.

SPAIN (400 A.D.)
"Ambrose sanctified the seventh day as the Sabbath (as he himself says). Ambrose had great influence in Spain, which was also observing the Saturday Sabbath." Truth Triumphant, p. 68.

SIDONIUS (SPEAKING OF KING THEODORIC OF THE GOTHS, A.D. 454-526)
"It is a fact that it was formerly the custom in the East to keep the Sabbath in the same manner as the Lord's day and to hold sacred assemblies: while on the other hand, the people of the West, contending for the Lord's day have neglected the celebration of the Sabbath." "Apollinaries Sidonli Epistolae," lib.1, 2; Migne, 57.

CHURCH OF THE EAST
"Mingana proves that in 410 Isaac, supreme director of the Church of the East, held a world council,-stimulated, some think, by the trip of Musacus,-attended by eastern delegates from forty grand metrop olitan divisions. In 411 he appointed a metropolitan director for China. These churches were sanctifying the seventh day."

EGYPT
"There are several cities and villages in Egypt where, contrary to the usage established elsewhere, the people meet together on Sabbath evenings, and, although they have dined previously, partake of the mysteries." Sozomen. "Ecclesiastical History Book 7, ch. 119

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CONCLUSION: The only apostolic witness is the bible and all the APOSTLES kept the Sabbath and God's people have always kept the Sabbath all through time according to God's Word.

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LoveGodsWord · Nov 10, 2018

Sabbath Observance Through The Centuries - The Sixth Century A.D.

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SCOTTISH CHURCH
"In this latter instance they seemed to have followed a custom of which we find traces in the early monastic church of Ireland by which they held Saturday to be the Sabbath on which they rested from all their labours." W.T. Skene, "Adamnan Llife of St. Columbs" 1874, p.96.

SCOTLAND, IRELAND
"We seem to see here an allusion to the custom, observed in the early monastic Church of Ireland, of keeping the day of rest on Saturday, or the Sabbath." "History of the Catholic Church in Scotland," Vol.1, p. 86, by Catholic histsorian Bellesheim.

SCOTLAND-COLULMBA
"Having continued his labours in Scotland thirty-four years, he clearly and openly foretold his death, and on Saturday, the month of June, said to his disciple Diermit: "This day is calleld the Sabbath, that is the rest day, and such will it truly be to me; for it will put an end to my labours.'" "Butler's Lives of the Saints," Vol.1, A.D. 597, art. "St. Columba" p. 762

COLUMBA (RE DR. BUTLER'S DESCRIPTION OF HIS DEATH)
The editor of the best biography of Colulmba says in a footnote: "Our Saturday. The custom to call the Lord's day Sabbath did not commence until a thousand years later." Adamnan's "Life of Columba" (Dublin, 1857), p. 230.

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CONCLUSION: The only apostolic witness is the bible and all the APOSTLES kept the Sabbath and God's people have always kept the Sabbath all through time according to God's Word.

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