planned parenthood is the devil's dungeon

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However, there are things that can be done that will drastically reduce the abortion rate.
You mean like forced sterilization?

Would that not be considered a CONSERVATIVE agenda?
 
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You mean like forced sterilization?

Would that not be considered a CONSERVATIVE agenda?

No, I'm not speaking of forced sterilization. I'm thinking about sex education programs, availability of contraception, prenatal testing and counseling, postnatal testing and counseling --- all at no cost to the poor.
 
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No, I'm not speaking of forced sterilization. I'm thinking about sex education programs, availability of contraception, prenatal testing and counseling, postnatal testing and counseling --- all at no cost to the poor.
ok. I agree those are liberal things.
 
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i found this on the internet it's going viral:
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In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?”The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”

“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”

The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”

The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”

The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”

The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”

“Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”

The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”

The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”

Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”

To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.

May be this was one of the best explanations to the concept of GOD."
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I feel sorry for those who have to stand before the Lord on that Day of Judgement and the realization of what they have done comes crashing in on them. They will relive it for eternity.
Starting threads with vague accusations and then avoiding saying what exactly they're talking about? I mean, yeah, the OP is pointless but I wouldn't get overly dramatic about how bad it is.
 
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i found this on the internet it's going viral:View attachment 244792
In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?”The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”

“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”

The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”

The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”

The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”

The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”

“Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”

The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”

The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”

Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”

To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.

May be this was one of the best explanations to the concept of GOD."
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Kind of interesting, but both the believing and unbelieving baby get exactly the same ending (being born). Extending your analogy means that belief is irrelevant to the outcome.

Doesn't really capture the concept of GOD, at least not the Christian one.
 
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Just for the record...

Margaret Sanger's most significant achievement was not PP. Along with her cohort, Katharine McCormick, it was funding the research by Dr. Gregory Pincus (a Harvard-trained endocrine biologist who did the basic science) and Dr. John Rock (a Harvard OB-GYN who did the clinical studies) that led to Enovid in the mid 50s. The first effective oral contraceptive. Which has been revolutionary.

https://asu.edu/pages/enovid-first-hormonal-birth-control-pill
 
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Kind of interesting, but both the believing and unbelieving baby get exactly the same ending (being born)

Yeah, just like when we die. Except the difference is the believer knows where they are going and will not be surprised by it.
 
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Yeah, just like when we die. Except the difference is the believer knows where they are going and will not be surprised by it.

Mate, that bears no relevance to the conversation. I was talking about the baby analogy posted earlier.
 
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So was I, the fact that eludes you is my concern.

That makes no sense. In the analogy, both babies go to the same place, regardless of what they believe in....unless you are suggesting unbelievers go to heaven?
 
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In fact, Planned Parenthood may be the greatest anti-abortion activist of all time.
Nope. Its primary purpose is abortion.

It does a few other things simply to point to them with pride and say, "See how we help people!"
 
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Nope. Its primary purpose is abortion.

It does a few other things simply to point to them with pride and say, "See how we help people!"

You have that quite wrong. In fact the reverse is true.
 
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ok. I agree those are liberal things.
It's very amusing that perfectly reasonable courses of actions have been labeled as conservative or liberal and thus get rejected out of hand by a sizeable portion of your population out of ideological reasons.
 
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It's very amusing that perfectly reasonable courses of actions have been labeled as conservative or liberal and thus get rejected out of hand by a sizeable portion of your population out of ideological reasons.
Yeah, I agree.

While I am MOSTLY a conservative, I will not identify as such since conservative ideology includes many things I find abhorrent, like racism and patriarchy.
 
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