By this they will know you are my disciples through healing

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What did Jesus say

"By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another"
John 13:35

It is love and intimacy, care and support which is the foundation of the gospel.
Healing comes as a gift of the Spirit, and where the Spirit is so there will be healing.

But above healing is the Lords will.

asking God to fill you with the knowledge of his will through all spiritual wisdom and understanding.
col 1:9

Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Rom 12:2

The problem we have is in our hearts, in our passions, in our views and ways of judging others.

If the world could heal people, the world would not be any different than it is. Technology has removed many barriers and conquered many issues of our existence yet even with medicine it prolongs the way we live, it does not transform it.

But the cross, repentance, humbleness, brokenness and with an open heart letting love change us and mold us, knows no end into eternity and beyond.

Healing is a gift of love from God to man through us. But if we have not love in our hearts we are an empty vessel playing at religion. And if we put healing above love, we have just become false teachers, and leading people into the spectacular and the world of propoganda and exaguration.
 
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What did Jesus say

"By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another"
John 13:35

It is love and intimacy, care and support which is the foundation of the gospel.
Healing comes as a gift of the Spirit, and where the Spirit is so there will be healing.

But above healing is the Lords will.

asking God to fill you with the knowledge of his will through all spiritual wisdom and understanding.
col 1:9

Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Rom 12:2

The problem we have is in our hearts, in our passions, in our views and ways of judging others.

If the world could heal people, the world would not be any different than it is. Technology has removed many barriers and conquered many issues of our existence yet even with medicine it prolongs the way we live, it does not transform it.

But the cross, repentance, humbleness, brokenness and with an open heart letting love change us and mold us, knows no end into eternity and beyond.

Healing is a gift of love from God to man through us. But if we have not love in our hearts we are an empty vessel playing at religion. And if we put healing above love, we have just become false teachers, and leading people into the spectacular and the world of propoganda and exaguration.
Wise words.
Would you say that people who take medication are not the Lords disciple? Or are not loving?
I think his post was about our priorities, and it seems to have been written by someone who the Lord blessed by not healing him.

God's purpose in this age is to save us from sin and its effects. All disease, and discomfort for that matter, is the result of sin. We are to be resisting the effects of sin. Medication is a part of the good fight.

He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. (1 John 3:8, 1984 NIV)
 
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Wise words.

I think his post was about our priorities, and it seems to have been written by someone who the Lord blessed by not healing him.

God's purpose in this age is to save us from sin and its effects. All disease, and discomfort for that matter, is the result of sin. We are to be resisting the effects of sin. Medication is a part of the good fight.

He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. (1 John 3:8, 1984 NIV)
I dont believe illness is a result of sin. If that were true then Godless people would die more than christians but thats not the case.
 
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I dont believe illness is a result of sin. If that were true then Godless people would die more than christians but thats not the case.
The difference between Christians and non-Christians is in our hearts, our inner nature (spirits), not in our bodies.

Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. (2 Corinthians 4:16, 1984 NIV)

Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men’s hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God. (1 Corinthians 4:5, 1984 NIV)

What shall we conclude then? Are we any better ? Not at all! We have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under sin. As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; (Romans 3:9-10, 1984 NIV)
 
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Would you say that people who take medication are not the Lords disciple? Or are not loving?

This subject is a difficult one. It is difficult because people assume illness is something that has to be resolved. Some illnesses are the Lord calling us home. Some are periods of rest and change of focus. Some need medication and treating quietly. But all need prayer and lifting to the Lord.

Some need prayer for healing as the Lord leads. But the idea that the Lord heals all illness and that illness is always a statement from satan as an attack, is simply wrong.

I have seen 3 men of God, get cancer, and believe God is healing them, because they claim it by faith, some who believe the "break through" has happened and then they die.

Clearly God, God did not agree with them, and God did not give them the break through.
Illness comes as part of life, it is the continuous battle between our bodies and the environment in which we live. It is God who allows illness to effect us.

Seeking His will is important. We are under His will in all things, His grace, His love.

So everyone should seek medical truthful advice and take it, as Gods provision of support as we walk along the way.

I am as old as I am by His grace, and His grace alone. I serve His purposes, and if He calls me home, Amen, and if not, may I bless those I am with and who I share with.

With great sadness, the desire to stay on earth has become for some greater than the calling home He brings, and many people have been hurt and confused at the priority where rather than giving glory for a life spent with Him, it is a struggle to the last, as if death is defeat against His will.

If you had a choice, be with the Lord today or stay here with all its struggles and unknowns, which would you choose? If condemnation hangs on your mind, start resolving this, and learn to walk in the Spirit, Amen. Thankyou Jesus.
 
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