Rome Is Mystery Babylon

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I can assure you that the Church which Jesus founded is not the harlot of Babylon. Has it occurred to you that Revelation is referring to pagan Rome, which martyred Peter and Paul? Or even Jerusalem, considering Jesus' words, "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!", and the fact that it was responsible for its own persecution of the Way? The harlot gets drunk on the blood of the saints, so whoever it is, it's certainly not the Church which these martyrs belonged to.

Paul and Peter were not members of the Roman Catholic Church as it did not even exist in their day. They were however murdered by Rome.
 
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It has more chance to be true then someone who has not studied for it thinks, but thank you for laughing with me my friend

I’ve studied this topic for 22 years. I am quite confident that I am correct and not your study Bible. Study Bibles are often incorrect on the subject of prophecy.
 
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I’ve studied this topic for 22 years. I am quite confident that I am correct and not your study Bible. Study Bibles are often incorrect on the subject of prophecy.

Yes you know better. I still stick with what my studybible says.
 
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I can assure you that the Church which Jesus founded is not the harlot of Babylon.

Jesus didn’t start the Roman Catholic Church. That Church didn’t start until after the time of Constantine in the 4th and 5th centuries.
 
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Jesus didn’t start the Roman Catholic Church. That Church didn’t start until after the time of Constantine in the 4th and 5th centuries.

Not really, they were accepted with Constantine but they were around for much longer. But nobody accepted them and they were persecuted. Have you ever read a theology book?
 
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Why then did Jesus never warn for Rome but warn for the love of money if Babylon has nothing to do with the materialistic world and the hunger for money? How many times has Jesus warned for Rome? How many times has Jesus warned for the love of money?
 
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I went to Bible College and have served as a Pastor, so yes I’ve done my fair share of reading.

Have you ever read a church history book?

I read a bit of history about it in theology book.

Why then did Jesus never warn for Rome but warn for the love of money if Babylon has nothing to do with the materialistic world and the hunger for money? How many times has Jesus warned for Rome? How many times has Jesus warned for the love of money?
 
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Jesus made it very clear: you can not have two masters: you can not serve God and the mammon.
There for it is easy to understand that Babylon has to do with money and materialistic world because for that world Jesus warned many times, to not enter.
We are called to be not a part of the world. What is this world? It is based on money and hunger for money and power. Babylon is not Rome alone. Babylon is the whole world. We are not warned to be not part of one part of the world, we are warned to not be a part of the whole world. Babylon is not Rome alone, it is the whole world. Like Gods Kingdom can be in our heart, Babylon can be in our heart also. Thats why there is written: Get out of her!
Jesus many times teached to be reborn and become a part of Gods Kingdom. To get out of the world as it is. He teached us to renew our thinking, because our thinking was on money not on God. There for it is easy to understand that Babylon is across the whole world just like Gods Kingdom is across the whole world. To not enter babylon is a state of mind. To not enter Babylon is to not hunger for money and power but for Gods will.
 
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I read a bit of history about it in theology book.

Why then did Jesus never warn for Rome but warn for the love of money if Babylon has nothing to do with the materialistic world and the hunger for money? How many times has Jesus warned for Rome? How many times has Jesus warned for the love of money?

Rome put Jesus to death. The disciples were expecting Jesus to bring an earthly kingdom and end the Roman Empire. Rome is more of a theme in the gospels than you may realize. Before Jesus ascension the disciples questioned him about the kingdom being taken from Rome and restored.
 
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Rome put Jesus to death. The disciples were expecting Jesus to bring an earthly kingdom and end the Roman Empire. Rome is more of a theme in the gospels than you may realize. Before Jesus ascension the disciples questioned him about the kingdom being taken from Rome and restored.
Its always easy to put the blame there where we have nothing to do with it. I understand my explanation is a bit harder to accept because it affects us all
 
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