All have sinned and fallen short..
Okay. Well, believers definitely sinned as a part of their old life. I believe that is what it is talking about here because Romans 3 is talking about “Initial Salvation” in the fact that God's grace is available for both Jews and Gentiles. However, if you believe Romans 3:10 and Romans 3:23 are talking about the believer's current present walk with God, then you must also believe Romans 3:11 is saying that believers today have no understanding and they do not seek after God, too. Do you believe that all Christians today have no understanding and do not seek after God?
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if we say we have no.. HAVE NO sin we deceive our selfs and the TRUTH is NOT in us.Now.. that was not talking to the world but believers.
1 John 1:8 is a warning to the brethren about a false belief from the Gnostics who were trying to seduce the brethren with false doctrine (See 1 John 2:26). 1 John 1:8 is saying not to deny the existence of sin or deny the penalty of sin. Christian Scientists think sin is an illusion, so 1 John 1:8 would be a warning to them. The OSAS proponent believes sin exists physically but yet they deny the existence of sin or they deny the penalty of sin on a spiritual level because they believe Jesus paid the price for their future sin. This is the most logical way to read this verse because to go by the OSAS interpretation on 1 John 1:8 is to cause a contraction with a normal reading on 1 John 2:4; For 1 John 2:4 says that if a person says they know the Lord and they do not keep His commandments, they are a liar and the truth is not in them. The solution to dealing with sin is not ignoring it's existence like 1 John 1:8 says, but it is to confess one's sins (1 John 1:9). Yet, you believe confessing sin does not forgive sin in relation to salvation. Forgiveness from God is salvation! If one interprets 1 John 1:8 in your way, you would have to be constantly confessing 24/7 (with no real change in one's life).
You said:
Look at this way.. the children out side my house are not mine. Now my kids...will never lose my love for them. Nothing can take them from me.. they are forever mine. They still goof up.. still miss it.. can still hurt me.
You mean, these hypothetical children of yours commit minor transgressions and you love them enough to keep them in your home. But lets say these hypothetical children commit murder and rape all of a sudden and or they abuse other children who are younger then them. What then? Do you want to invite them in your home with your own kids whereby they can do harm to them? I thee nay! Unless you don't care about your own children's welfare. Don't do it. That is what we are talking about here. Major grievous sin and not minor transgressions or hidden small little faults of character.
You said:
We STILL live in a sinful world. And SIN in this world has a price. Meaning.. the COST the WAGES for the SIN we do in this world.. will cause sickness and all the way to death in this world. Yet this SIN is why He died.. if we confess our sins.. He is faithful to forgive us and cleans us from ALL unrighteousness.
No. You are not reading 1 John 1:9 correctly. You are eliminating the last half of the verse that says to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness. Confessing sin is a way to help you to overcome your sin. 1 John 1:7 is the context. It says if we walk in the light as He is in the light the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin. So you have to walk. Walk in the light to have Jesus cleanse you of sin. This walking in the light is lovng your brother (See 1 John 2:9-10). So you have to love your neighbor (Which is the same thing as keeping the Moral Law or God's commands - See Romans 13:8-10). 2 Corinthians 7:1 says,
“Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” (2 Corinthians 7:1).
What do you do with verses like these?
Do you ignore them or seek to change them?
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As the sweet sweet Holy Spirit said.. through our Brother Paul.. can Christ die again? He said that to Jews that got saved and would try to go back and offer up some sacrifice for that sin. There is NO MORE sacrifice for sin. Christ cannot die again. It was once and for all. YET..does this mean we can freely SIN? GOD FORBID!...that WHICH WAS BORN Of God.. NEW IN YOU...can never sin.. this FLESH can...
What a twist on Scripture. Paul says shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound? Paul says, God forbid. Paul did not say, can you sin while under God's grace? Impossible. All your sins are taken away and when you sin, you cannot really sin because Jesus paid for your sins. Did Paul say that? I say thee nay! He did not.
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PRAISE GOD FOR THE LAMB...PRAISE GOD FOR THE LAMB of God that has taken away the sins of the world..KEEP your eyes on THIS not your sins..
Sorry, it does not work like that. You cannot focus on Jesus and ignore your sin. The Bible repeatedly warns against committing grievous sin with the destruction of a person's soul (See Matthew 5:28-30, Matthew 6:15, Matthew 12:37, Matthew 25:31-46, Luke 9:62, 1 Corinthians 6:8-10, Galatians 5:19-21, Titus 1:16, 1 John 3:15, Revelation 21:8).
