Shocking new details about pastor Michael Glatze

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I was looking for info about the James Franco movie I Am Michael and found these comments about Michael Elliott Glatze:

"I met Michael and Benjie when they came through Boise on their tour for XY to meet with LGBT youth across America. I was (and still am) running a support group here in Boise, Idaho.

They struck me as sincere and enthusiastic and i did what I could to facilitate a conversation with them and the area youth. I found out afterwards that they had invited some of the younger folks out to party – some were underage. I also heard from some other youth group leaders in Florida where Benjie and Michael had just visited. They warned me that the duo had allegedly fooled around with some of the underage kids there and to keep an eye on them. Alas, the warning came to me after the two had left.

I spoke to the youth afterwards and they denied having sex but that they were offered alcohol and were asked where to buy weed.

Needless to say I was disillusioned and disappointed.

I still keep the business card that Michael gave me on my desktop to remind myself to never fully trust anyone without good reason and that even the best of us have our faults."

"Mike's decision to leave the gay lifestyle has less to do with it being a sin and more to do with what years of partying on XTC and having threeways with teenage boys will do to one's psyche. Mike and his then partner Benjie were guests in my home during their road trip days. I invited them to stay with my partner and I for a week during Gay Days in Orlando and to speak to the local GLBT youth group that I had just started working with. A few days into their stay the topic of teens dating adults in their 20's, 30's, 40's etc came up and to say that I was shocked by their take on this topic is an understatement. They spent several days telling me things like "It is our duty and it is our right to have sex with guys as young as 14 so that they might know how wonderful and loving and beautiful it can be." They also spent a good amount of time pushing the idea that XTC is not harmful and that the government wants people to think it is bad so that they do not try it. I, and many others in our local community, were left feeling like the two of them were wolves in sheeps clothing. They continued to try and convince me sex with teens was ok, even going as far as to tell me they would let me talk to the parents of a teen friend of theirs in the midwest who allowed and encouraged their teen son to date men in their 30's or even older. They kept emailing me about the whole thing, emails that I still have to this day. It was only when I told them that my editor was encouraging me to write a piece on the age of consent issue in the gay community that they started to step back. They told me that I needed to study and read up on the subject and that I should not even think about writing such an article for at least 1 to 3 years. I never wrote the article but I have continued to work with our GLBT youth group and sadly I have learned that Benjie and Mike are not the only people within our community who think nothing of taking advantage of gay teens who long for guidance and unconditional love and are instead given drugs and sex in their place. I ended up telling them that I wanted all mention of me and the youth group I worked with removed from their site, which they eventually did. Over the years I have continued to hear stories about them and what they were really into, the drugs, the orgies, the pictures they would take of young men in their underwear...young men who looked up to them and probably expected something different, something better, but never got it. I would like to hear what Mike has to say about these things. If he is such a good Christian now he should be asking all of those young men he had sex with and did drugs with to forgive him. I think that Mike's conversion has more to do with his guilt and shame than it does his repulsion of the entire GLBT lifestyle."

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Shocking if true...

It is pretty interesting that this A- list mostly movie actor from an acting family who has been busted for hitting on underage women and harassing others made the movie he did not that long ago. It turns out the subject of that movie has a lot in common with the actor. The subject of the movie traveled the country with the woman he called his wife and they would find teenage boys after their lecture and ply the boys with booze and weed and then have threesomes with the teen boys. Eventually, the police started taking note of their activities so they now hole up on the west coast and even changed their last name.
Crazy Days and Nights: Blind Item #8

Comments in the above article seem to point to Glatze and his wife.
 
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I agree with the comment on the link provided in OP: "we should ignore rumors and speculation."

And keep in mind, these comments about Michael & Benjie refer to the time before Michael's conversion ... and before he was a pastor.

What Michael is doing now, I do not know. He was reportedly living in San Francisco in a Feb 2017 blog, but his ex partner Benjie made this short movie, released May 2017, which shows him at his church in Wyoming (parts 1, 2 & 3 on Youtube)
Part 1

Michael's blog indicates that he & Rebekah converted to Catholicism and moved to San Francisco, leaving Wyoming in June 2016. Michael still acknowledges he is the person depicted in the movie "I Am Michael" though they use the last name of Elliott.
 
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Shocking if true...


Crazy Days and Nights: Blind Item #8

Comments in the above article seem to point to Glatze and his wife.
You know you are quoting a gossip blog, right?

Current News & Events should only use credible sources.

It seems to me that the writer is deliberately confusing Michael & Benjie's activities before Michael's conversion, with Michael & Rebekah's married life.
 
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I agree with the comment on the link provided in OP: "we should ignore rumors and speculation."

And keep in mind, these comments about Michael & Benjie refer to the time before Michael's conversion ... and before he was a pastor.

What Michael is doing now, I do not know. He was reportedly living in San Francisco in a Feb 2017 blog, but his ex partner Benjie made this short movie, released May 2017, which shows him at his church in Wyoming (parts 1, 2 & 3 on Youtube)
Part 1

Michael's blog indicates that he & Rebekah converted to Catholicism and moved to San Francisco, leaving Wyoming in June 2016. Michael still acknowledges he is the person depicted in the movie "I Am Michael" though they use the last name of Elliott.

But why change your last name, travel across many state lines, close your social media accounts, and join a religion which is already plagued with sexual abuse scandals?
 
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You know you are quoting a gossip blog, right?

Current News & Events should only use credible sources.

It seems to me that the writer is deliberately confusing Michael & Benjie's activities before Michael's conversion, with Michael & Rebekah's married life.

The owner of that blog uncovered dirt on Kevin Spacey, Harvey Weinstein, and others. I don't know if I would flat-out dismiss it.
 
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But why change your last name, travel across many state lines, close your social media accounts, and join a religion which is already plagued with sexual abuse scandals?
I can think of a number of reasons for changing his last name - the pressure from the Right & the Left has been intense since "I Am Michael".

It would be very offensive to our Catholic friends on CF to imply that Catholics in any way condone or ignore the sexual abuse that has occurred. .

Blogs that make vague, vile accusations should be ignored.
 
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though I'm not sure how the Bible distinguishes between gossip & slander .
Go do a study on "Lashon Hara." (the evil tongue)
is it the intent of the speaker or the truth of the information?
Neither. It is the RESULTS.
 
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Go do a study on "Lashon Hara." (the evil tongue)

Neither. It is the RESULTS.
Are you suggesting that the results of gossip are comparatively innocuous while slander results in damage to a person's reputation?
I'm not sure that is what distinguishes the words psithyristēs and katalalos which are translated "gossips"and "slanderers" respectively by the NIV in Romans 1:29-30.
 
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Are you suggesting that the results of gossip are comparatively innocuous while slander results in damage to a person's reputation?
No - I am saying both are banned as they have similar outcomes - the impugning of someone's reputation. Whether factual or not. They both come under the term LaShon Harah - the evil tongue. And being trained as a Pharisee, Paul would have been VERY familiar with that term.
 
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No - I am saying both are banned as they have similar outcomes - the impugning of someone's reputation. Whether factual or not. They both come under the term LaShon Harah - the evil tongue. And being trained as a Pharisee, Paul would have been VERY familiar with that term.
Yes ... but the question I was considering was what is the difference between psithyristēs (gossipers) and katalalos (slanderers) as the Bible defines them.
 
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